You dont realise how many Firefly/Serenity are out there OR Serenity is so gonna to kick Star Wars' ass!
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UPDATED: Saturday, May 7, 2005 04:47
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Originally posted by rklenseth:
People said that no studio would put a failed TV show that didn't even have a season onto DVD when the rumor of the DVDs being released found their way onto the internet. When those rumors were confirmed people said that no one would buy it but we did and continue (currently 26th top selling DVD on Amazon.com). When rumors of the movie hit the internet, people said that no one would be crazy enough to pick it up but Universal did. When the movie was confirmed, people said that it would be dropped before filming but that never happened. When the movie was filmed, people said it would end up being a direct to DVD release but all signs are that it will be a theatrical release. So I don't see why Serenity can't beat Star Wars III in the box office. Serenity getting huge buzz online and this is going to lead to huge buzz in the media eventually. People who have never even heard of Firefly or Serenity until the trailer are flocking to fansites to see what the fuss is about.
You see Firefly/Serenity is about doing the impossible. We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty.
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No, no it won't. It'd be like Anakin charging in at Count Dooku only to get blown away by lightning. Or Luke versus Vader in cloud city, where Vader was toying with him the whole time until Luke loses a hand. Serenity will be amazing. But if you put a gun to my hand and said "choose" my choice would be Star Wars. I will see both. I will love both. But Episode III...Serenity just can't beat it. No matter how hard some of you might want it to, it just doesn't have the power to.
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Well I am glad I started something hahahaha
I want to see both movies.
As a 30 something, I am also HOPING Episode 3 is as dark as I expect it to be :-) And I need that link to episode 4 (so I can watch 4/5/6 again in a row!)
But equaly - I am hoping Serenity is as easy on the eyes and humours as Firefly was. This one I dont doubt 
When The BDM comes out, the fans will be happy, new fans will be found (and DVD sales will go on the up again!), Joss will make his money and Universal will see it well was worth it............ and FOX will weep! hahahahaha
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Well I am glad I started something hahahaha
I want to see both movies.
As a 30 something, I am also HOPING Episode 3 is as dark as I expect it to be :-) And I need that link to episode 4 (so I can watch 4/5/6 again in a row!)
But equaly - I am hoping Serenity is as easy on the eyes and as humourous as Firefly was. This one I dont doubt 
When The BDM comes out, the fans will be happy, new fans will be found (and DVD sales will go on the up again!), Joss will make his money and Universal will see it was well worth it............ and FOX will weep! hahahahaha
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I don't believe Serenity will even come close to Ep3's monetary take. Star Wars just has all the cultural inertia of thirty years behind it. Serenity's got momentum, but it's not enough yet.
But all the same, if I was in the 'gun to the head, you can only see ONE of the movies, and you will never, ever, ever see the other one.' then there's absolutely no thought required to make my choice. I can quite happily live without seeing SWIII... I probably will wind up seeing it, but if I didn't, I wouldn't care overly much. Missing out on Serenity would gnaw at me.
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Originally posted by rklenseth:
People said that no studio would put a failed TV show that didn't even have a season onto DVD when the rumor of the DVDs being released found their way onto the internet. When those rumors were confirmed people said that no one would buy it but we did and continue (currently 26th top selling DVD on Amazon.com). When rumors of the movie hit the internet, people said that no one would be crazy enough to pick it up but Universal did. When the movie was confirmed, people said that it would be dropped before filming but that never happened. When the movie was filmed, people said it would end up being a direct to DVD release but all signs are that it will be a theatrical release. So I don't see why Serenity can't beat Star Wars III in the box office. Serenity getting huge buzz online and this is going to lead to huge buzz in the media eventually. People who have never even heard of Firefly or Serenity until the trailer are flocking to fansites to see what the fuss is about.
You see Firefly/Serenity is about doing the impossible. We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty.
I'll second that Rklenseth!
I have steered clear of the Serenity vs Star Wars threads because I don't want to see or be part of any sort of rift in the Browncoat ranks. Still don't. This is not a competition, at least not since 'Versal moved the BDM back to September. I can only imagine how bloody it would have been on message boards had the two movies had to slug it out within weeks of each other.
Star Wars is iconic in sci fi. There is no way around that. Some of us may not like what Lucas did with the new movies, but the fact of the matter is that Star Wars helped to revitalize sci fi when it hit. It is because of movies like Star Wars that other sci fi series have been able to make it. For that I thank Lucas. I loved the original trilogy and the new trilogy has been fairly good so far.
Make no mistake, I love Firefly and I know I will feel the same way about the BDM. If it came down to it, I would take Firefly and the BDM over Star Wars every time. Star Wars did not pull me in emotionally the way Firefly did. I just didn't feel the connection to the characters or the universe the way I do w/ this wonderful creation Joss has given us.
Rklenseth makes very good and valid points in his statements above. We, the browncoats, have a lot more personally invested in Serenity & Firefly than do Star Wars fans. A lot of us have been here since the show aired, some longer. We stuck it out through "hiatus" and the campaigns to shop the show to other networks. We fought in the effort to save the show and mourned when it was cancelled. We never quit. We never lost faith. We were rewarded w/ the DVD set, and through that set we expanded the fan base. We got more people watching, and those DVD sales figures helped Joss convince Universal to greenlight Serenity.
We have done the impossible. We did it when every detractor and troll said it would never happen. We got our DVD set, and now we have the BDM. We're STILL FLYIN'!
With all of the buzz going on in the last three days I just know that Serenity is going to be bigger than anyone has dared hope. Will it match SW EpIII? Who knows? Who cares?!? It is not a fair comparison as the Star Wars franchise has been around for nearly 30 years, has 5 movies, cartoons, toy lines, video games, books, etc all under its belt to back it up.
Let's all just sit back, go enjoy the BDM (& Star Wars if that is your bag) and smile at the fact that it is through our efforts and loyalty that we have the opportunity to see Serenity flying on the silver screen.
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I have steered clear of the Serenity vs Star Wars threads because I don't want to see or be part of any sort of rift in the Browncoat ranks. Still don't. This is not a competition, at least not since 'Versal moved the BDM back to September. I can only imagine how bloody it would have been on message boards had the two movies had to slug it out within weeks of each other.
Star Wars is iconic in sci fi. There is no way around that. Some of us may not like what Lucas did with the new movies, but the fact of the matter is that Star Wars helped to revitalize sci fi when it hit. It is because of movies like Star Wars that other sci fi series have been able to make it. For that I thank Lucas. I loved the original trilogy and the new trilogy has been fairly good so far.
Excellent summation, BrownCoat1. Some battles don't need to be fought and we owe a lot to George Lucas. Just ask yourself: How would the Captain handle the situation?
On a side note, it's time to re-energize our guerilla marketing efforts. The one big unknown in the equation is how non-fans of Firefly will react to the movie. We're lived with these characters for quite a while so there's no way for us to put ourselves in the frame of mind of someone who has never heard of them.
What we can do is continue to spread awareness. Keep putting up 11thHour's great artwork ( http://home.att.net/~the11thhour/ ). Keep re-arranging those DVDs at the store so they are in prime viewing locations. Keep doing all the things Jeremy talks about over on his site: http://www.fireflydvd.com/guerilla_ideas.html . Pretend we're back before the movie was greenlit.
We all know what happens when people watch Firefly with an open mind. The buzz is out there. Let's strike while the iron is hot.
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Originally posted by GwenHarker:
Regaurdless of whether or not Serenity is better, SW III is the end of an era.
Years from now people will look back and see the beginning of another era started a few months after the end of the old. I think at that point we'll all say, "I told you so!"

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Bravo BC1 and I hope you're right GunRunner.
I love Star Wars too and have been in from the original versions. I will see Star Wars and I will see Serenity numerous times. I know Serenity will make enough to insure the trilogy but I keep hoping beyond hope that the trilogy will do so well, it may actually get back to TV or have more movies!
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