One question/problem about ariel

POSTED BY: Docebo
UPDATED: Monday, March 1, 2004 04:48
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DOCEBO

Sunday, November 17, 2002 3:24 PM

While I was rewatching Ariel last night it occured to me that since the blue hands already knew that river and simon were on a firefly class ship that when serenity took off minutes after simon, river, and jayne escaped that the blue hands would now know exactly which firefly they were on. Or even if not exactly they can probably narrow it down a lot. Maybe this was intended, or maybe i am just bieng dumb. (btw that is a high-larious emoticon)

-Docebo

KEF

Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:13 PM

There were other problems too.

I thought it improbable that they could buy four uniforms/security passes for "a couple of bills" as I think was stated. Uniforms maybe, but not four security passes. These are not simple fake IDs so you can go drinking. These are supposed to open doors in a high security facility. I would think they would be expensive to procure. Someone will likely point out that they didn't actually open the doors they were supposed to, but Zoe said "they must have been demagnetized." Or maybe the seller simply ripped Mal & co. off. So that's why they were inexpensive.

More unbelievable to me was that Wash and Kaylee were able to slap together a working med vehicle out of junk parts so quickly. Not that they weren't capable of building it, but that they were able to do it seemingly in just a few hours, at most.

And most junk yard want money for their junk. Particularly the big, useful pieces of junk. Simon specifically said it was a "shopping expedition". Yet in the beginning they talk about needing a job because they hadn't had one in a while- implying that they're short of cash?

Having said all that, I'm very willing to overlook stuff like this for an amazing story. And this was an amazing episode. (And as improbable as these particular scenes may have been, they were still fun to watch.) As I've said repeatedly, this show is about the characters. Not the technical stuff.

JAYNESGIRLFRIEND

Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:19 PM

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Originally posted by kef:

More unbelievable to me was that Wash and Kaylee were able to slap together a working med vehicle out of junk parts so quickly. Not that they weren't capable of building it, but that they were able to do it seemingly in just a few hours, at most.

From planning to finish the job took two days. Wash and Kaylee had spare parts and what looked like the entire frame of the ship to work with. I also got the impression the ship was the last thing finished. So they had almost that entire two days to build it.

"I was gonna get me an ear, too." - Jayne

KEF

Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:25 PM

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Originally posted by JaynesGirlfriend:
From planning to finish the job took two days. Wash and Kaylee had spare parts and what looked like the entire frame of the ship to work with. I also got the impression the ship was the last thing finished. So they had almost that entire two days to build it.

Go Kaylee and Wash! I stand corrected.

EVANS

Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:27 PM

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Originally posted by Docebo:
While I was rewatching Ariel last night it occured to me that since the blue hands already knew that river and simon were on a firefly class ship

They don't necessarily know.

m.

"But ... not boring, like she made it sound. " Wash, in ARIEL

KEF

Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:41 PM

Yeah. At best all the Blue Hands knew about them was that Simon and River's accomplices were disguised as med techs and they were using a fake med vehicle.

KEF

Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:03 PM

Wait, just reread the original question. Agree with EVANS- the Blue Hands didn't necessarily know River and Simon were on a Firefly beforehand. And with all the traffic we saw on Ariel when Serenity landed, they probably still didn't afterward.

DELVO

Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:34 PM

The Hands of Blue were interested in the cruiser's commander's contact with a Firefly and its crew at the end of Bushwacked, and showed him a picture of River. Whether it was supposed to be shown later or not, it wasn't, so this is what we have.

However, we don't know how far away Serenity was from the hospital; the ambulance might have already been well out of sight from there before it landed in Serenity's bay again.

KEF

Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:40 PM

Good point. Oh well.

DOCEBO

Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:17 PM

From the picture joss has painted i think we can assume that in order to land or take off they would have to ask for permision, this would leave a record of how many fireflies on are the planet at any given time. and in bushwacked the alliance crusier says that there is a tag on a firefly. Now given all that, we don't know how much time has elapsed since then so maybe the blue hands are no longer assuming that they are on a firefly.

-Docebo

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