FIREFLY vs. STAR TREK
POSTED BY: reginaroadie
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 15:48
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This is not a thread debating if one is better than the other. Both series are sci-fi at it's best and both have their own individual strengths that have made them endearing to millions.
I am sure that many of you Browncoats are varying degrees of Trekkies. I myself have never gone to a Trek convention or dressed up or anything too extreme. But I do have STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE in my DVD collection (think it's the best of the movies next to UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY), and I like watching eps of either the original series or VOYAGER, since they're my two faves.
So I was wondering if there's any one or thing from either the Roddenberry verse or the Whedon verse that you'd like to see in a challenge. Like who'd win in a fight, who'd pilot or fix a ship better and what group of villains are scarier? And if they did, who'd win?
Just to get the ball rolling.
JAYNE vs. any Klingon- Jayne maybe a good barroom brawler, but I think his ass would be served to him by even the most untrained, undisciplined Klingon.
KAYLEE vs. Scotty, Geordi, B'Elanna, et al- Kaylee definitly. Even if she'd never seen a warp core or a plasma conduit or any TREK tech, she'd probably figure it out how it works really quickly and even make a few modifications of her own to make the ships go faster.
MAL vs. Kirk, Picard, Janeway, et al- Draw. All the captains hold their grounds in their own way. Who knows, maybe Mal would've developed an oedipal-like crush on Janeway.
WASH vs. Tom Paris- Draw as well. Both of them are essentially the same character. It's just that Paris doesn't play with plastic dinosaurs.
REAVERS vs. BORG- Borg hands down. Reavers are just cannibals. To unprepared, unarmed spacers, they're a threat. But to a species that assimilates every living thing it comes across into it's vast hive, they'd just be a nuisance.
So what other FIREFLY/TREK pair-up, competitions would you like to see.
Oh and Simon vs. The Doctor: The Doctor. Simon might've graduated top 3%, but the Doc is a walking medical textbook. And can carry a tune better than Simon probably could.
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star trek was to govermental for me they were in an agency
what the hell do I know I'm just one of those drugged ,up brain dead ,moronic teenagers what I like rufed up low down action whith a good case of drama
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Oh and Simon vs. The Doctor: The Doctor. Simon might've graduated top 3%, but the Doc is a walking medical textbook. And can carry a tune better than Simon probably could.
I would put Simon up against Bashir. Two young genius doctors having to learn the hard way to be people people and not alienate the crew.
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Ok. One... ... 3 letters for you.
D
S
9
Ok, that was two letters and a number, but....
I was a big fan of this show before Firefly came along. For various reason, the main one being that having seen all of the recent (and a few of TOS) versions of star trek, i felt that DS9 was the smartest concept, the most complex world, the most interesting characters, and in the later seasons, the dirtiest storyline. Section 31 was a beautiful thing, this concept that the high n mighty federation might not be as great as they thought.... And then the whole thing about interstellar war... that was nice n gritty too.....
So we've got:
-Depth
-Interesting characters
-Dirty (ie not holier-than-thou federation) storylines
-The darker sides of the universe (see: the Occupation, the maquis, the changelings, etc)
So now we've got....
-FIREFLY!!
P.S. started writing this before the mention of bashir, which, btw TWG, is actually a great comparison...
also I forgot that for dark stuff, the 'Obrien the troubled war guy seeking peace' was nice.
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JAYNE vs. any Klingon- Jayne maybe a good barroom brawler, but I think his ass would be served to him by even the most untrained, undisciplined Klingon.
Jayne would just shoot the Klingon ALA 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'.
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In the book 'Finding Serenity' there is a kind of a match up...
where the Enterprise crew gets switched with the Serenity crew...
so Archer & his group of drones (bridge officers) are confronted with Reavers, and while he prepares for a meaningful dialogue they are all eaten. (they lasted like 10 minutes in the Firefly'verse)
Meanwhile Mal w/Zoe & Jayne at his back take just a few minutes to over-come any resistance by the unknown unnamed crew of the Enterprise, who they then dump on the nearest habitable planet...
and our BDHs then take off in a Galaxy class star ship smuggling and trading and growning rich.
It could happen.
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So what other FIREFLY/TREK pair-up, competitions would you like to see.
Zoe VS Riker--- Zoe! Hands down. She'd kick his butt.
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Good question, hard to answer. I happen to be a Sci-Fi fan from the early 60’s, so the advent of Star Trek on network TV was a huge event (when I was a sophomore in high school). By the third year, however, they shifted the series to Friday night, when even a nerd like me had better things to do.
I was one of many who watched the 79 Star Trek episodes (counting the two-part opener, but not the unaired pilot) over and over. For many years, the series was stripped on Sunday night at midnight in New York, and I watched it many times. What there was of Star Trek could be stupid, obvious, shallow, and later often seemed outdated. Nonetheless, Star Trek, better than anything else, expressed the idealism inherent in the space program of the 60’s, that has unfortunately vanished in the present day.
ST also spawned the spotty movie franchise, and ultimately STNG (good elements, but many flaws), ST-DS9 (my personal favorite), ST-Voyager (couldn’t get into), and ST-Enterprise (liked in spots, vaguely sorry it’s been cancelled).
Firefly is a TV non-event. Between family and work, I never saw the any of the first 11 episodes on the air. Love the series on DVD, but I would not have taken the trouble to see if I had not (rather belatedly) become a fan of Buffy and Angel,
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I grew up watching TNG as a kid, and I was really into ST:VOY in high school. In contrast, I didn't get into Firefly until, well, about two years AFTER the show got canceled.
Really, in my view, Firefly vs Star Trek isn't really a fair comparison because ST is an "established" universe with tons and tons of culture and information and backstory and characters and history. FF didn't even get a full season. Even though the ST universe is far more evolved with the technology, FF's storylines and characters are just as intellectually and emotionally strong, if not more so. I think both TNG and FF are outstanding shows (though they both have their own flaws) so I'm can't pick one over the other.
Having said all that, I'd pit the Serenity crew against the TOS cast. No reason; just being arbitrary.
Mal vs Kirk - Two strong-willed, resourceful leaders who inspire the best in their respective crews. And neither is afraid of mixing it up a little (though Mal's probably a little quicker on the draw than Kirk). Mal also seems more world-weary. He's got nothing to lose, and that experience gives him the edge. Kirk lets his ego get in the way. I pick Mal for this one.
Kaylee vs Scotty - A toss-up. Both of them are the best at what they do. The technology on the Enterprise would be different from what Kaylee's used to, but she'd pick up quick. A draw here.
Simon vs McCoy - I never really saw McCoy do much doctorin'. The episodes I saw, he'd mostly hang out on the bridge, bitchin' and moaning to Kirk about something or other. Simon is more efficient, and he seems to be able to work miracles even with Serenity's substandard medical facilities. Simon gets this one hands down.
Zoe vs Spock - Spock always acts logically and with purpose. Zoe shoots first and asks questions later. Both have their merits and their flaws. Again, a tossup.
On the whole, I think the FF crew would run circles around the TOS crew. TNG or VOY, though, may be another debate entirely.
(For the record, I couldn't get into DS9 or ENT. I tried, but I couldn't.)
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