Looking for the best fan vid ever
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UPDATED: Friday, April 15, 2005 21:29
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I've really enjoyed the vids you've made. Great work!
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Hi Embassy, long time no chat.
You working on any new projects?
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Be sure to check out Falling for the First Time.
An Embassy exclusive, located right here:
So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.
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Using DVDs as source material for vids is fine, but you do have to remember that there are shows that are being vidded that aren't available on DVD just yet. TV rips are the only source for clips. When I started doing Firefly vids, those rips were the only way to go since the DVD set was not yet released. One of these days I'll go back and remaster the lot of them when I have the time.
Fair enough, you are accurate.
There are still a great many shows that are not available on DVD. I didn’t intend to sound condescending trust me, my first videos that were made on Movie Maker 2.0 were horrible, I mean dreadful. However I was using poor quality rips and I had no knowledge of Codec’s and compression ratios. Besides, I love a great deal of the fan vid’s that are available through FFF society.
And where the heck are your videos?
My collection must grow.
So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.
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Is VOBS a software program to burn DVDs?
no, no, no....
Vob, is DVD, these are the files that are hidden within your disk(s)Quote:
are most people burning their original DVDs onto their hard drives and then cutting clips from them?
Sadly no, most people are using rips that they downloaded from the internet to make their videos.
If you plan to make Fan Vid's I suggest you rip the DVD's you own to your HD and then get started. Mine is an example of this. It's bigger then most you'll find, but it is worth the quality.
If you haven’t Downloaded my Video then do so now, it is Called Serenity and is located here...
http://homepage.mac.com/rocketplane/FileSharing8.html
Making decent quality videos is an art and it takes some time to get there, try this link to get you started, it's for AMV's mind you, but it will get you started in the right direction...
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/videogetb.html
If this is too complicated, then feel free to E-mail me with any questions, my E-mail address is posted somewhere on this post, or you can grab it from the end of my Fan Vid.
Since this is a tutorial for AMV's I can also upload a few of my projects for you. Just say the word.
Also, what editing program will you use? I use Adobe Premiere 6.5 and Adobe Premiere Pro.
I also have experience with Photoshop, and After Effects. When I first started I used Movie Maker 2.0 which is freeware. If you are a Mac user I can point you in the right direction.
So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.
Can you recommend a place to obtain after effects? I've been looking around and really can't find anything.....full copy, and all my design colleagues have other software than AE.
"Your mouth is talking. Might wanna look to that"
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And where the heck are your videos?
*Points down to link in signature......*
You can alway try this link, dude.
That's where the hell they are.
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You can alway try this link, dude.
Now I feel like a fool… Thanx.
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No, that ain't it at all.
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I'm a bounty hunter.
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Can you recommend a place to obtain after effects? I've been looking around and really can't find anything.....full copy, and all my design colleagues have other software than AE.
I purchased After Effects 6.5, Adobe Premiere 6.5, Photoshop CS, Adobe Premiere Pro, and Microsoft Office System Professional 2003 for $105.00 at a local auction. I think everyone there wanted to buy watches. HA HA HA HA!!!!!
You can try download.com for demo downloads, if you are looking for a full version, you will have to go through Bittorrent, I don’t recommend Kazza, too many dummy files. If you are not familiar with Bittorrent, just try Altavista, (I hate Google). I would post some recommendations, but I don’t feel comfortable posting such things on this website.
So you're a bounty hunter.
No, that ain't it at all.
Then what are you?
I'm a bounty hunter.
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The first step to making a good vid is storyboarding. Do a good job at step one and the whole project lays right down for you.
1: Take the song and play it in something with a timer. Make a detailed log of when each musical phrase begins and ends.
2. Imagine which shot from the series you want in each musical phrase. When I did "Falling" I ripped the entire series to my laptop.
3. Clip the shots you want to something compatible with your editing program. I use iMovie, so I exported small clips to DV format, then imported into iMovie.
4. Assemble your clips in an editor.
5. Apply transitions. In "Falling For the First Time" I used simple half-second dissolves. The transition time means that you have to allow for the fact that each clip eats an extra half second, so consider this in your planning.
6. Render. I used DiVX for portability, but some people inexplicably prefer WMV (Darn Microsoft poodles).
7. Distribute to all your friends. Bask in accolades or constructive criticism, as appropriate.
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Concept
A video concept is a deceptively simple thing. The best way to describe it is as a vision. What you want the vided to be, how you want the viewer to feel, what you want them to think, to understand. In short, why you're making the video. This is hardly an exhaustive discussion, so what is possible goes far above and beyond what I make mention of. It should also be noted that sometimes a concept doesn't need to be stronger than a video and a song - not every video needs a strong concept. Attempting to strengthen a concept in a video that doesn't need it can kill the video. That said, when to apply the concept and when not to is a matter of taste for the editor. After all, the overall goal of any video is to communicate something, right?
STORYTELLING
The idea here is both very restricted and very open-ended, depending on what story you want to tell and how you want to tell it. Some videos retell the story, others tell entirely new stories. There's a large area in between, where the story is told but changed or a twist is added.
Synch
Synch is the core of the editing process itself. It is the connection between music and video. Without synch, you have video, and you have music, but no real connection between them.
MUSICAL
AKA Beat synch. This is where you cut, fade, use effects in time to the music. While sometimes simple to execute, this can get very complicated very rapidly. Many songs will have more than one musical line going at a time, and sounds of varying volume and tone. As an editor, you have to pick what you think is important, and synch to that. Sometimes the music itself presents a clear lead line to work with, but this is frequently not the case. What you show, how strongly you show it, and how you show it are all choices to be made.
Most videos make use of beat synch heavily. To ignore the music itself is considered extremely bad form, most of the time. Without extremely good reason, such as comedy, the video ending, etc., missing a significant change in the music is considered a major slip-up on the part of the editor.
LYRICAL
AKA Literal synch. In short, you match what is being said to what you show. There are varying degrees of lyrical synch. The connection between what is said and what is shown may be readily obvious, heavily symbolic, or nearly anywhere in between. One type that deserves special mention is the comedic association: an association made specifically to make fun of something or someone, or something absolutely ridiculous. The associations should be ones that the viewer can understand, though. If the associations are so strange or symbolic that the viewer can't understand them, then the editor has likely slipped up. Unless they're trying to make an incomprehensible video, that is.
A second type that deserves special mention is lip-synching. This is where a character (or characters) mouth movements are matched to the lyrics such that the character (or characters) appear to be singing or speaking. It is considered good form to lip synch entire lines at a time, with partial lip synch being somewhat looked down on.
Effects
There are two schools of thought on effects, one at either end of a broad spectrum. One school holds that effects should only be used to further the concept of the video. The other school holds that effects should be used just because they look cool. I’m going to refer to these as the meaningful camp and the appearance camp. Most people, it should be noted, are somewhere in between, using effects to further their musical sync.
MEANING (aka pretentious artiste)
The point of view here is somewhat more complicated that of the other camp. The idea is that effects should only be used in order to heighten the impact, strengthen the message, or somehow enhance the emotions felt by the viewer. This sometimes leads to symbolism, and other things that frequently only make total sense to the editor.
APPEARANCE (aka “Shiny!!!!”)
The point of view of this camp is pretty simplistic: if it looks cool, go
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Or you use my method: Pick a show, pick a tune, pick some clips, edit away, add some effects if needed, render, post, and wait for feedback if there is any.
And I would suggest joining the Vidders group at Yahoo. There's plenty of information, links, and discussion on all the aspects of vidding.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vidder/
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