One chance - where should you start?

POSTED BY: KittyKat
UPDATED: Friday, March 25, 2005 14:35
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YT

Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 PM

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And in case the implication in my original post was too subtle, I think the pilot is the only good way to start the series.

Well them's two different things; kicking off the series, and a Hail Mary one-chance-only conversion attempt.

Not really. If you convert someone, you've started them on the series. More importantly, this was the interpretation used by the person who started this thread.

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what episode would you start someone off on,

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What the Fox execs clearly didn't comprehend is that they don't get just one shot - people come into series late all the time.

Now that is two different things. Coming to a series late is not the same as tuning in to the first ep, being unimpressed, but tuning in to the next one anyway. Do you do that? I wouldn't. I have done it for a DVD set highly recommended by folks I trust. But broadcast TV is one-chance-&-you're-out.

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The trick is not to lose them once you've got them... by maybe showing it regularly?

Yes, but when a broadcast network pays for the rights to a sporting playoff in prime-time, they're gonna show it live. FOX now realizes they cancelled a good & potentially popular series. They chose not to premiere any new series last fall 'til after the World Series ("World" in the American-sporting-event sense). It is small consolation, but Firefly may have changed the way broadcast TV is scheduled.

Btw, FOX is the network that broadcast, then cancelled, Firefly. 20th Century Fox is the studio where Joss made all three of his series (the other two broadcast by the WB), and left the Firefly sets up for six months, to allow Joss time to sell the series elsewhere.
To summarize: 20th Century Fox = the Good; FOX = the Bad; Fox = the Ambiguous

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Beanstalk, "Swamp Thing", from "Synergy"

INTHEBLACK

Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:42 PM

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Well them's two different things; kicking off the series, and a Hail Mary one-chance-only conversion attempt.

Not really. If you convert someone, you've started them on the series.

Yeah, but if the pilot isn't your prey's cup of tea, the only way to hook them may be to use different bait. Which is worse - starting someone in the wrong place, or not starting them at all?

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what episode would you start someone off on,

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So my question is this, what episode would you start someone off on, knowing you've only got one chance?

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What the Fox execs clearly didn't comprehend is that they don't get just one shot - people come into series late all the time.

Now that is two different things. Coming to a series late is not the same as tuning in to the first ep, being unimpressed, but tuning in to the next one anyway.

You have yourself a point there. Seems to me though, that that just reinforces the idea that the same episode ain't always going to be the right one to use to hook people - even if it is the best one to start with for most folk.

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When a broadcast network pays for the rights to a sporting playoff in prime-time, they're gonna show it live. [...] It is small consolation, but Firefly may have changed the way broadcast TV is scheduled.

Shiny. Just wish they could have learned their lesson on somebody else's gorramn show!

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To summarize: 20th Century Fox = the Good; FOX = the Bad; Fox = the Ambiguous

Good to know. Thanks.

Shiniest gorramn show in the 'verse!

YT

Friday, March 25, 2005 12:59 AM

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Just wish they could have learned their lesson on somebody else's gorramn show!

Then we'd all be eatin' steak.
Or, as Buffy said to the FOX programming group, "Eat stake!"

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Blind Faith, "Well All Right", eponymous

LITTLEKAYLEE

Friday, March 25, 2005 2:35 PM

I was introduced to Firefly by my Buffyverse friends. since I am from Australia, where the dvds came out before it was shown on tv, I never had the chance to see it as i couldn't afford the dvds. So when going to a friends place as part of a weekly thing, I got to see my 1st Firefly ep and that was Our Mrs Reynolds. and I was hooked, even more so after seeing Jaynestown the week after. Our Mrs Reynolds is a good one to get into, but you don't get to learn much about the whole Simon/River thing who are barely in it. So I recommend that, OR Serenity. Shindig is a good one for that too, though one of my friends(who isn't obsessed with the buffyverse, but likes it) saw that ep as her 1st and she didn't understand it. So I guess Our Mrs Reynolds would be best...I have no idea...

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