CBS claims no political bias...hmmmm

POSTED BY: Connorflynn
UPDATED: Saturday, January 15, 2005 04:10
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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, January 14, 2005 3:27 AM

Maybe, but 7 elections in a row all for the democratic candidate? I think, Liberal bias is probably the more likely reason.

RUE

Friday, January 14, 2005 4:48 AM

Is this a new liberal bias that only showed up for the last election?

NEUTRINOLAD

Friday, January 14, 2005 6:05 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Is this a new liberal bias that only showed up for the last election?

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Originally posted by Finn:
...the most favorable election coverage of the last seven election going to the democratic candidate...

So I think the study he is quoting says there has been a bias in favor of the Democrats in the last 7 elections.

NEUTRINOLAD

Friday, January 14, 2005 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by NeutrinoLad:
So I think the study he is quoting says there has been a bias in favor of the Democrats in the last 7 elections.

OK, I'm a big dummy. I referred to a reference to a study I had not actually seen. Sorry.
So I did go to the CMPA's website. Dear lord, please tell me that does not say what I think it does. Yup,

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From the front page of http://www.cmpa.com/ :
CBS Fails To Excape Cloud of News Bias

I kid you not. Then I went to mediatransparency.org to see how the CMPA is funded.

Well, at least I learned a valuable lesson, and a real time saver at that. Any time I hear that the source is the CMPA, I can discount anything they say.

CONNORFLYNN

Friday, January 14, 2005 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Is this a new liberal bias that only showed up for the last election?

Hehe.. I had this discussion with a relative of mine (my wife's Uncle) who is a Prof at NYU who teaches Poetry and English something or other LOL. He's a pretty Liberal Liberal and even he has declared that the media has always been Liberal. His definition was Moderate Liberalism. I agreed with him of course. To be honest there's nothing wrong with Liberalism. In truth the Progressive movement was founded on the backs of intellectuals. Most Liberals are college grads, hell there is even a base degree referred to pleasantly as "Liberal Arts" aka Hippie/Treehugger Degree hehehe..ok ok..so I'm pushing it..but to a degree I think it's safe to say that those associated with Art/Media and Education as well as philosophy tend to be Liberal/ Progressive.

Unfortunately, the Dems have lost their way, instead of continuing to be progressive..they rely solely on the fact that they believe that they own the Minority vote, even though they haven't done shit for them over the past couple decades really except maybe prolong there dependence on government and less on helping them grow, and are really no longer progressive.

The term I would say is "Keep em down and keep em dependent..we need their votes" hehe

The problem lies with the Gorram BIG political groups and parties who I don't think really represent Liberals anymore. The same can be said for Conservatives.. I don't think the Republican party represents Conservatives anymore. They all try too hard to please everyone and end up not having a sound footing on any issue.

I also think that Big Media in general has tried to influence instead of inform for ages. Now that the internet has created new forms of pundits..they are much more easily proven to be manipulative.

Personally, I don't care how they spin the news. My problem lies with the fact that CBS (and I don't think they are the only ones) felt it was OK to try and outright affect the election with out and out lies.

REEQUEEN

Friday, January 14, 2005 5:29 PM

NeutrinoLand:

While I completely agree with you, re: FoxNews, I think the issue here is whether or not any of the news media are actually unbiased at all.

I don't feel they are, I think (as has been said) they each have their particular prejudices, and they run with them. Which is generally why I try to get my news from the Onion.

There's a profit motive in producing stories that cater to one segment or other of the population. It's more popular right now to slant right than it is to slant left, therefore the vehemence with which FoxNews is defended.

While I agree that the media that trade on their reputations for integrity and so forth should tell news straight, I don't think it's likely to happen. It's just one of those things that is hard to fight, rather like herding cats. Which leaves it up to individuals to use their brains about the more obviously politicized subjects.

The same standard should be used when judging between slanted stories, whether or not the "reputation" is self-promotion, or some form of nostalgia. This is not a recent development, there never has been some mythical golden mean of neutral reportage, no matter what I was taught in my journalism class.

The best we can do is get information from various sources, compare that information, and find some measure of "truth" within that information. Going to sources outside the US (easy if you've got 'net access or BBC America) adds a broader view.

However, it is amusing to note the reactions once the petard has been hoisted. FoxNews clearly places itself in the same category as those you mentioned, while daily redefining itself as the new measure of tabloid journalism. If it wants ('scuse my anthropomorphizing) to be recognized as a legitimate news source, it's fair to judge it by the same standard as the others.

News has never been neutral. Not since pamphlets were first sold by political opponents to slander each other into the mud.

"You mean they have the internet on computers now?" Homer

HERO

Friday, January 14, 2005 5:43 PM

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Originally posted by Connorflynn:

Personally, I don't care how they spin the news. My problem lies with the fact that CBS (and I don't think they are the only ones) felt it was OK to try and outright affect the election with out and out lies.

I agree. And they were really BAD lies. Obvious forgeries and no background checking.

The tried to defraud the American people, slander the American President, all during the last weeks of the election and during time of war. The only people this does not bother are the Bush-haters, because they hate Bush first...there is no second.

Bush-haters, when you care enough to hate the very best.

H

RUE

Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:01 AM

That's why it's important to get your news from many sources, especially foreign ones. They don't have the same biases, economics and agendas as in the US, they have their own set. But it's easier to see those things in a foreign source than a national one, and by doing some compare and contrast, one can usually find out what's important.
CBS is actually right-leaning, just not as right as Faux. I have yet to identify a liberal network-news source.

NEUTRINOLAD

Saturday, January 15, 2005 4:10 AM

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That's why it's important to get your news from many sources...

Pretty and smart.

What can I say? You're right again Rue.

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