What was wrong with the Islamonazism thread?

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UNICORN

Thursday, December 16, 2004 4:51 PM

Sorry for the double;
Connorflynn, you mentioned that there are indeed fascist beliefs held by certain Muslims. I would counter that by saying that there are indeed a few fascist elements in our own goverment as well at the present time. And that home-grown fascism has a much greater impact on me and mine than does that of those aforementioned Muslims.

There is no such thing as a weed.

CONNORFLYNN

Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Unicorn:
Sorry for the double;
Connorflynn, you mentioned that there are indeed fascist beliefs held by certain Muslims. I would counter that by saying that there are indeed a few fascist elements in our own goverment as well at the present time. And that home-grown fascism has a much greater impact on me and mine than does that of those aforementioned Muslims.

There is no such thing as a weed.

Well..to a degree I disagree with you, but you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not sure that calling the current US administration fascist is a counter to the fact that there are Islamic Fascist Movements. On the contrary, I think it reflects the constant circumnavigation of facts. We were discussing the plausibility of the post above regarding Islamic fascism Movements.

There's an element of fascism in every form of government. It's not inherent to the current administration. The militant Islamic movement didn't begin during Bush's reign. I believe Carter had a bunch of fun with it..and well we can mention the assassination of the Israeli Olympians and so on and so on. It has been brewing for decades. Most fascists aren't as BOLD about it as some of the Islamic media lovelies that have been publicly present since the 70's.

I'm still not sure where you're coming from in terms of the informational post above. I don't think the individual was necessarily writing a thesis paper, that required a full on reference list. I'm sorry you feel that the individual shouldn't be writing a post, because you feel he isn't qualified to.

SOUPCATCHER

Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:31 AM

I have no problem with the thread being put in Troll Country for the following two reasons:

The person who started the thread, ArielBerg, made no effort whatsoever to participate in the Fireflyfans community. This was their first and only post and it was posted less than three hours after they created an account. Immediately after they made the post they logged off Fireflyfans and have not returned since. Clearly they were not interested in starting a dialogue. The only inference I draw from this information is that they wanted to spam this website.

Secondly, as Shiny pointed out in the last post of the original thread, the entire posting was pasted from a Wikipedia entry:

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from http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=7539#97610
For those interested, here's the discussion for why this was removed from the Wikipedia (from which the original post was copied verbatim):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Islamonazism

And here's what Wiki now says about this topic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pejorative_political_slogans#Isla
mofascism.2C_Islamonazism

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

The simple fact that this is unoriginal work copied from another site by a user who made no effort to be part of this community marks this as trolling, at least IMHO. So for those reasons I have no problem with the relocation of that thread.

This is absolutely unrelated to my opinions on the content of the original post. For me personally I have problems with a title that equates two large groups, Muslims and Nazis, and then only presents evidence of a relationship between a much smaller subset of one group. I would feel the same way about an article entitled Amerinazis based on the pro-Nazi rallies in Madison Square Garden and elsewhere in the United States that happened pre-WWII by groups such as the German-American Bund. Hell, you could even throw in the Pledge of Allegience as evidence of Amerinazism since the original salute was done stiff-armed-Nazi style. Fortunately, this went out of style for obvious reasons.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

DAIKATH

Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:18 AM

As a christian and after the remarks with words like pussies, faggots and stuff I really feel the need to post this Bible qoute on here.

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8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=69&chapter=4&version=49

Please don't judge us according to poeple like them.

INEVITABLEBETRAYAL

Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:51 PM

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Originally posted by Daikath:
Please don't judge us according to poeple like them.

I second that. I'm a Christian, too, and I'm just appalled at the pure hatred displayed by "Liberalsarestupid". We are not all the sort of malevalent bigots that he seems to be.

Just to add some additional words of wisdom, when asked what the two most important commands were, "Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself."

Oh, and one more thing. Liberalsarestupid: until you can come up with a chapter-and-verse citation for the assertion that God hates liberals, I suggest you not speak for Him. He's doin' just fine without you.

_______________________________________________
I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.

ROCKETJOCK

Monday, December 20, 2004 12:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by InevitableBetrayal:
Quote:
Originally posted by Daikath:
Please don't judge us according to poeple like them.

I second that. I'm a Christian, too, and I'm just appalled at the pure hatred displayed by "Liberalsarestupid". We are not all the sort of malevalent bigots that he seems to be.

Just to add some additional words of wisdom, when asked what the two most important commands were, "Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself."

Oh, and one more thing. Liberalsarestupid: until you can come up with a chapter-and-verse citation for the assertion that God hates liberals, I suggest you not speak for Him. He's doin' just fine without you.

Bravo. I'm not a Christian, but, after studying the Bible, especially the parts in the red letters, I realized most people who profess to be Christians aren't either. Which makes it harder on the real Christians to do the job their messiah required -- you know, stuff like judgeing yourself before you judge others, and forgiving others their trespasses. And crazy liberal ideas like questioning authority figures.

Anyone who thinks Jesus of Nazareth was a voice of conservatism never read the book.

"Hermanos! The Devil has built a robot! Andale!" -- Numero Cinco

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