The Face of Fallujah - US Propaganda
POSTED BY: Ghoulman
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 7, 2004 16:45
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by sgtgump:
Screw Naomi Klein.Quote:
Naomi Klein now totally unavoidable
By Jeremy Nelson
Published: Thursday, December 6, 2001
Naomi Klein sighting have increased twenty-fold in the last two weeks, sparking fears that the globalization pundit may have become airborne. If that is the case, she may be ubiquitous within a week, and despite increased production of the anti-Klein drug "Friedman," the epidemic may not be stopped in time.
http://www.thevarsity.ca
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Ah yes, more American articles that attack the people the neofascists hate. That is, anyone with an anti-Bush opinion.
Typical, it's like reading Tucker Carlson on CNN - attack the person and ignore the facts.
Smarmy articles like this aren't funny, they mearly demonstrate the anti-intellectual campaign the Bush/Cheney Junta and thier ideological dogs are funding. Rather like the Nazis discredited intellectuals in the 30s.
What's next... kicking the bodies of children gassed in Fallujah by US troops?
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by sgtgump:
Screw Naomi Klein.Quote:
Naomi Klein now totally unavoidable
By Jeremy Nelson
Published: Thursday, December 6, 2001
Naomi Klein sighting have increased twenty-fold in the last two weeks, sparking fears that the globalization pundit may have become airborne. If that is the case, she may be ubiquitous within a week, and despite increased production of the anti-Klein drug "Friedman," the epidemic may not be stopped in time.
http://www.thevarsity.ca
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Ah yes, more American articles that attack the people the neofascists hate. That is, anyone with an anti-Bush opinion.
Typical, it's like reading Tucker Carlson on CNN - attack the person and ignore the facts.
Smarmy articles like this aren't funny, they mearly demonstrate the anti-intellectual campaign the Bush/Cheney Junta and thier ideological dogs are funding. Rather like the Nazis discredited intellectuals in the 30s.
What's next... kicking the bodies of children gassed in Fallujah by US troops?
Uh, Ghoul. The article's from the online edition of the University of Toronto student newspaper, the Varsity. I hadn't realized that the Bush/Cheney Junta had spread to your nation's universities. Maybe you're not as paranoid as I thought.
Actually, after SgtGump's recommendation that we all have a romantic liaison with Ms. Klein, I googled for a picture so I could see, strictly theoretically of course, if this would be worthwhile. The Varsity's image caught my eye and lead to the article. I just got a chuckle out of it.
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"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Yea, I didn't read the article, merely your blurb. 
I inferred the writers angle because the blurb you provide calls Naomi a "globalization pundit"... that's wrong.
So I only read your blurb. Is that wrong?
Having read the article, it's hard to put a finger on it. It's really crappy as articles go, it has no info, opinion, or meaning. Funny needs meaning. Shows the quality of education at UofT, a school known for matriculating the biggest pole lickers in Canada. I'm sure you know them as Harris supporters.
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Naomi Klein sucks. She isn't doing anything but calling soldiers 'Baby-killers'. Regardless of whether we like the war or agree that war is necessary, there is no reason to attack soldiers. We have all heard stories about soldiers doing bad things in Iraq, but not a single person can say that they are qualified to remark on such things, unless the have just come from the front lines after fighting. I was a soldier for five years and I can tell you why I no one ever called me a 'baby-killer', because I wouldn't have allowed it.
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I'm sincerely curious to find out where she called soldiers 'baby killers' or even some version of that.
In it, I read that civilians were targets by accident (the Lancet highlights long-distance warfare like airstrikes) and are now targets BY POLICY. I thought she did a pretty goog job highlighting the policy - 'it comes from the top' - aspect. I didn't read anywhere that this was being put on soldiers. Perhaps you could point out the place where she portrayed soldiers in a 'baby killer' light.
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I'm sincerely curious to find out where she called soldiers 'baby killers' or even some version of that.
In it, I read that civilians were targets by accident (the Lancet highlights long-distance warfare like airstrikes) and are now targets BY POLICY. I thought she did a pretty goog job highlighting the policy - 'it comes from the top' - aspect. I didn't read anywhere that this was being put on soldiers. Perhaps you could point out the place where she portrayed soldiers in a 'baby killer' light.
"Every day, US bombs and tanks move closer to the sacred Imam Ali Shrine, reportedly damaging outer walls and sending shrapnel flying into the courtyard; every day, children are killed in their homes as US soldiers inflict collective punishment on the holy city; every day, more bodies are disturbed as US Marines stomp through the Valley of Peace cemetery, their boots slipping into graves as they use tombstones for cover. "
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040913&s=klein
Or from the first post of this thread:
"Because outside US borders, it is, of course, a different marine who has been awarded the prize as "the face of Falluja": the soldier captured on tape executing a wounded, unarmed prisoner in a mosque. Runners-up are a photograph of a two-year-old Fallujan in a hospital bed with one of his tiny legs blown off; a dead child lying in the street, clutching the headless body of an adult; and an emergency health clinic blasted to rubble."
I doubt you'll find a direct "US soldiers are baby-killers" quote. but the inference is pretty clear.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Yea, I didn't read the article, merely your blurb.
So you took a small part and spun it to fit your narrow closed minded view of the world. Wow, thats out of character...
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Having read the article, it's hard to put a finger on it. It's really crappy as articles go, it has no info, opinion, or meaning. Funny needs meaning. Shows the quality of education at UofT, a school known for matriculating the biggest pole lickers in Canada. I'm sure you know them as Harris supporters.
There you go. Attacking the person and ignoring whatever facts they might be presenting. Can't you Libero-fascists stop with the politics of personal destruction?
I think you wouldn't know a real fact if it flew a plane into your building, much less bit you on the ass.
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but the inference is pretty clear.
Thanks Geezer
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the USA kills babies everyday, it's policy.
Follow up from our lovely truth teller, Naomi.
Naomi Klein
Saturday December 4, 2004
The Guardian
David T Johnson,
Acting ambassador,
US Embassy, London
Dear Mr Johnson, On November 26, your press counsellor sent a letter to the Guardian taking strong exception to a sentence in my column of the same day. The sentence read: "In Iraq, US forces and their Iraqi surrogates are no longer bothering to conceal attacks on civilian targets and are openly eliminating anyone - doctors, clerics, journalists - who dares to count the bodies." Of particular concern was the word "eliminating".
The letter suggested that my charge was "baseless" and asked the Guardian either to withdraw it, or provide "evidence of this extremely grave accusation". It is quite rare for US embassy officials to openly involve themselves in the free press of a foreign country, so I took the letter extremely seriously. But while I agree that the accusation is grave, I have no intention of withdrawing it. Here, instead, is the evidence you requested.
In April, US forces laid siege to Falluja in retaliation for the gruesome killings of four Blackwater employees. The operation was a failure, with US troops eventually handing the city back to resistance forces. The reason for the withdrawal was that the siege had sparked uprisings across the country, triggered by reports that hundreds of civilians had been killed. This information came from three main sources: 1) Doctors. USA Today reported on April 11 that "Statistics and names of the dead were gathered from four main clinics around the city and from Falluja general hospital". 2) Arab TV journalists. While doctors reported the numbers of dead, it was al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya that put a human face on those statistics. With unembedded camera crews in Falluja, both networks beamed footage of mutilated women and children throughout Iraq and the Arab-speaking world. 3) Clerics. The reports of high civilian casualties coming from journalists and doctors were seized upon by prominent clerics in Iraq. Many delivered fiery sermons condemning the attack, turning their congregants against US forces and igniting the uprising that forced US troops to withdraw.
US authorities have denied that hundreds of civilians were killed during last April's siege, and have lashed out at the sources of these reports. For instance, an unnamed "senior American officer", speaking to the New York Times last month, labelled Falluja general hospital "a centre of propaganda". But the strongest words were reserved for Arab TV networks. When asked about al-Jazeera and al-Arabiya's reports that hundreds of civilians had been killed in Falluja, Donald Rumsfeld, the US secretary of defence, replied that "what al-Jazeera is doing is vicious, inaccurate and inexcusable ... " Last month, US troops once again laid siege to Falluja - but this time the attack included a new tactic: eliminating the doctors, journalists and clerics who focused public attention on civilian casualties last time around.
Eliminating doctors
The first major operation by US marines and Iraqi soldiers was to storm Falluja general hospital, arresting doctors and placing the facility under military control. The New York Times reported that "the hospital was selected as an early target because the American military believed that it was the source of rumours about heavy casual ties", noting that "this time around, the American military intends to fight its own information war, countering or squelching what has been one of the insurgents' most potent weapons". The Los Angeles Times quoted a doctor as saying that the soldiers "stole the mobile phones" at the hospital - preventing doctors from communicating with the outside world.
But this was not the worst of the attacks on health workers. Two days earlier, a crucial emergency health clinic was bombed to rubble, as well as a medical supplies dispensary next door. Dr Sami al-Jumaili, who was working in the clinic, says the bombs took th
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