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POSTED BY: KevinIanBeaumont
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 17:02
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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:40 PM

From Adam:

"
So, I'm walking back from Starbuck's today and guess who comes riding up on his bicycle: No... not John Mellencamp. JOSS, it was Joss.

So he says, " I was going to call you today" and I says, "About the postponement?"
"Yeah, I figured if anyone would already know it would be Adam, MR. ONLINE GUY" So he proceeds to tel me that this will be a blessing in disguise and the studio is really happy with the film and wanted more time to gear up a really kick-a$$ marketing SCHEME. Which they will.

Then we chit-chatted for a while about family and stuff... Caterpillars... the length of the show... the fact that Jayne is really cool... and funny... and strong looking.... and "Oh, by the way," he asks, "are you guys free next thursday for a screening?"

So I says, "Hmmmmm I'll check my schedule but I think perhaps maybe it will be a possibility that I will attempt to squeeze it in." What's that guy's name again? Oh yeah... Joss. The boss. AKA G-d.

So anyway guys, this is good news, let's take it as GOOD NEWS. It felt rushed to me anyway. Like the series did. Now we have plenty of time for all of those summer-esque trailers and OSCAR (trademark) considerations.

Love and Serenity Always,

A.B.
"

Whilst I have all your attention, also, I'd like to point out to all those people bombarding Universal complaining and petitioning: Universal have given Joss $50,000,000 for Serenity. In total, it's going to cost them a lot more with advertising.

That's a huge commitment they didn't need to make.

They are delaying the release as it makes business sense for them: They should have with Chronicles of Riddick, for example, as it was a busy time, but chose not to: it got buried. They didn't make the money they wanted from it.

Those complaining, petitioning and (planning to) advertise in magazine will dent things.

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Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KevinIanBeaumont:

Those complaining, petitioning and (planning to) advertise in magazine will dent things.





These people are just feeling hurt and so are acting selfish. They'll get over it.

Thanks for posting Adam's post.

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:32 AM

Just a clarification on one point. The proposed ad in Variety is for the purpose of communicating a vote of confidence in Universal and to reaffirm the support of Browncoats in marketing of the movie. Hence, it probably should not be grouped with the other letter writing and emailing mentioned. In any case, it's all just thoughts at this point, but positive thoughts. Here's the thread:

http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=19878.1


"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:32 AM

Adam continues to post to the OB (thanks Adam!)

There's lots of posts, but choice quotes follow

"I've called around to "in-the-know" types in Hwdland, they are all in agreement that this is a good sign. :- )"

"This is good news. I am very relieved, actually."

And finally;

"*Smooch!* :- )"

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KevinIanBeaumont:
So he proceeds to tel me that this will be a blessing in disguise and the studio is really happy with the film and wanted more time to gear up a really kick-a$$ marketing SCHEME. Which they will.



hmm. this is excellent news, though. it is always nice when the studio likes the movie. it may give them leverage to get another one made later. so the expected release date is now in september? i guess that makes sense. if you want to delay because of the competition, september really would be the earliest it could go. after april, when all the summer blockbusters (ie cash cows) start coming out, things are a little crowded. plus, serenity does not appear to be (at least in my mind) a special effects bonanza like so many of those summer releases, so it seems reasonable to let those films duke it out first.

still, it is disappointing on some level to know that we have to wait another 5 months but oh well. at least the movie is still coming out and has not been shelved or anything like that.

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:36 PM

I would sincerely hope that no one has found it necessary to send emails or letters demanding anything of 'Versal.

I for one am in total agreement w/ Adam and Joss on the postponement. It will give Joss more than ample time to do the special effects, get the movie score just right (please say there will be a soundtrack!), and to aid 'Versal in the planning of a marketing strategy.

I am on pins and needles too in anticipation of the BDM. The 5 month delay is hard to take, but I know it will be worth it!

Keep Flyin' Browncoats!

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:44 PM

Fellow Coats of a Brownish Color:

I, for one, don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to write some letters. We want them to know someone cares.

The bad thing would be filling them with invective or hateful sentiments. Universal feel they have good reason to move the release date. That should be seen as a vote of confidence on their part that Serenity is capable of returning a profit on their investment. They are simply trying to ensure its success and maximize that profit.

By moving it, they not only ensure the success and profitability of this movie, but eliminate some of the competition for eyeballs that the movie would have had in April. More eyeballs means more potential ticket purchasers for the next two movies, should Serenity indeed be a moneymaker.

Still, I think we could safely write letters to Universal letting them know we are disappointed about the delay, but that we know it was a business decision favorable to Serenity and future movies; that we support the studio's decision and will continue to support Serenity and any marketing "SCHEME" related to its eventual release.

Then, we thank them for their time and consideration, very respectfully, payroll signature, printed name. P.S. Sometimes we children have to understand that due to financial considerations, we can't have the G.I. Joe with kung fu grip for our birthday as originally promised; instead we have to wait 'til Christmas. It's not that we aren't loved (even though that's how it feels), it's just that a balloon payment on our college fund is due.

In like manner, We The Faithful must understand that we'll get our new toy as promised, just a little later, and our future prospects are enhanced for the price of a little patience.

...And self-restraint.


Rational(izing)ly,

zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

Only 309 days, 13 hours, 34 minutes, and 13 seconds left until The BDM!
(*Grrrr! Aaargh!*)

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
Fellow Coats of a Brownish Color:

I, for one, don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to write some letters. We want them to know someone cares.

The bad thing would be filling them with invective or hateful sentiments. Universal feel they have good reason to move the release date. That should be seen as a vote of confidence on their part that Serenity is capable of returning a profit on their investment. They are simply trying to ensure its success and maximize that profit.

By moving it, they not only ensure the success and profitability of this movie, but eliminate some of the competition for eyeballs that the movie would have had in April. More eyeballs means more potential ticket purchasers for the next two movies, should Serenity indeed be a moneymaker.

Still, I think we could safely write letters to Universal letting them know we are disappointed about the delay, but that we know it was a business decision favorable to Serenity and future movies; that we support the studio's decision and will continue to support Serenity and any marketing "SCHEME" related to its eventual release.

Then, we thank them for their time and consideration, very respectfully, payroll signature, printed name. P.S. Sometimes we children have to understand that due to financial considerations, we can't have the G.I. Joe with kung fu grip for our birthday as originally promised; instead we have to wait 'til Christmas. It's not that we aren't loved (even though that's how it feels), it's just that a balloon payment on our college fund is due.

In like manner, We The Faithful must understand that we'll get our new toy as promised, just a little later, and our future prospects are enhanced for the price of a little patience.

...And self-restraint.


Rational(izing)ly,

zoid




You took the proverbial words out of my mouth Zoid my friend.

I hope my post did not seem to indicate that I was against people writing emails, letters, etc. I'm not. I just don't want a flood of critical or venom filled correspondences finding their way into the very hands that are responsible for us even having the BDM.

As I have said elsewhere, it is imperative that we all voice our support for Joss, 'Versal, and the cast in any way we can. If people here wish to send letters or post cards, please let them be positive and supportive. Let them all know that the Browncoats are behind them 100%.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:15 PM

I agree with what all the rational-type people here have already said. Plus, late summer/early autumn is a good time for a word-of-mouth sleeper hit (as I strongly suspect our Serenity will be). In late April it would be swamped by all the bigger guns (woah, v mixed metaphor...).

I also think that fan letters *are* good, providing they have courtesy and grammar and so forth. I'm heading over to check out the Variety ad thread now.

/ pure intentions, juxtaposed /

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Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:27 PM

Out of curiousity where did you find this? In it Adam says that Joss referred to him as "online guy" and I was just wondering if has a site or blog or something.

Thanks!

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