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Canadians and the 2004 Election

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Saturday, November 6, 2004 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:

However, since it was given as an "honor" to Mr. Moore, I count it as dual citizenship. If this information is incorrect, please feel free to point to the correct information.



To the best of my knowledge MM does *not* hold a Canadian Citizenship. It's probably something that someone just said at one point. Then some media guy got hold of it and it turned into this... ugh.

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Saturday, November 6, 2004 1:29 AM

Something interesting about the Canadian Election Law...

See, according to Part 11, Division 9, section 331 ( http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/E-2.01/14580.html#section-331 ) of the Canada Elections Act:

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No person who does not reside in Canada shall, during an election period, in any way induce electors to vote or refrain from voting [*] for a particular candidate unless the person is

1. a Canadian citizen; or
2. a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.




According to Part 19, section 500 (3) ( http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/E-2.01/15701.html#section-500 ) of the same Act:

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3. Every person who is guilty of an offence under any of subsections 484(2), 486(2), 495(3) and 497(2) is liable on summary conviction to a fine of not more than $2,000 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than six months, or to both.




So, apparently, in a June 19, 2004 screening of F9-11 in Toronto. MM attended the opening and declared to the audience to "Not vote conservative" and "I really need you to make sure that Mr. Harper does not take over". Meaning to suade Canadians to not vote for Harper to the Prime Minister position.

When it was found that Elections Canada was going to actually bring charges to MM. Sarnia’s Mayor Mike Bradley, who had a brief spot in Bowling for Columbine, declared he is "willing to declare Michael Moore a citizen of Sarnia, Ontario therefore making him a de-facto Canadian".





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Saturday, November 6, 2004 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreyJedi:
Micheal Moore. US Citizen, Candian Citizen.

Disclaimer: I remember being told that he was an honorary Canadian, not a "real" Canadian. This was by someone correcting my information, as I thought he was a "real" Canadian. However, since it was given as an "honor" to Mr. Moore, I count it as dual citizenship. If this information is incorrect, please feel free to point to the correct information.



Ok... I remember that now (I think I may have purposely blocked it from my mind ). As has already been explained, it was honourary and I don't think it was ever actually done. It was only a response to a Conservative Party MP's call to charge Moore under the Elections Canada Act (as explained by JasonZZZ). As far as I've heard though, Elections Canada did nothing about it.
Even if they had tried to charge him, I don't think an honourary citizenship would have done anything (especially if it was bestowed by a mayor who likely doesn't have that authority in the first place).

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However, I will still think Micheal Moore is a fat blow-hard who uses film as a political tool not for information or entertainment.



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Saturday, November 6, 2004 2:31 AM

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Originally posted by JaynezTown:
what about Canadian with dual-citizenship ? Or how about your allies the British , the Aussies should they shut up aswell



Yes.

Just like WE should shut up about their elections. The only thing I'll say about the Aussie election is that they chose well in John Howard.
Despite his Labor Party roots, Tony Blair still understands that weakness in the face of terror is an invitation, so good for the Brits and their choice.

As to the respect the goofy left wing Euro papers are showing us, like the "59 million stupid people" etc etc... they can blow it out their arses!

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Saturday, November 6, 2004 2:42 AM

@Jasonzzz
Thank you for confirming my answer, that he indeed isn't one.


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Saturday, November 6, 2004 2:48 AM


No probs. I just thought it interesting that something like that is on the books... But then it might be that they were afraid of a foreign power attempt to subvert their elections... Don't know for sure - just thinking out loud. Any idea how it got put in there?


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[B]@Jasonzzz
Thank you for confirming my answer, that he indeed isn't one.


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Saturday, November 6, 2004 3:14 AM

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Jesus titty-f***ing Christ!

If you're Canadian, or any other country for that matter, SHUT THE HELL UP about the election process in the USA.

GreyJedi, you want to aggressively spread freedom around the world, as long as they don't get too uppity and say something you don't want to hear.

You are a real wacko. I like your computers but I think you are totally crazy. Your recent posts have not been clever or funny, just full of disturbing, hateful, dark energy. Ewwwww.

Aren't you Static's friend? How could Static teach me, a faceless stranger on a message board, and not teach you? You need some Statication.



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Saturday, November 6, 2004 3:40 AM

I agree with Tash. You're a hypocrite.

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Saturday, November 6, 2004 3:54 AM


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Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:42 AM

Tash, Maniac. . .I feel I must take some small amount of responsibility for TheGreyJedi. He is my padouin learner at this time, but he's not even completed the 'charming to women' stage of his training yet. . .although he is proving to be an adept learner in this area. . .and I've not yet gotten to the part of tight-lipped tolerance in the face of opinions that drive you nuts.

Now. . .I can certainly see where Grey would be a bit irked at non US Citizens speaking about our election as if they were directly ripped off. What I'm seeing here, to use an analogy, is someone complaining about how much TGI Friday's Jack Daniels Ribs totally suck and are a waste of money when they've NEVER EATEN THERE. They may be right. . .but only by dumb luck of the guess. . .or because they heard someone else say they suck. . .but, because I fight for the freedom of ALL people, I clench my jaw and say through my teeth, "Really? I'm sorry you feel that way."

I will most certainly chastise my young student for behaving as a troll and promise to get to the 'nettequite' portion of his training as soon as possible.

Oh, by the way Tash. . .I take your words as highest praise. Thank you.

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