Joss Whedon's; The Watcher????

POSTED BY: TheSomnambulist
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THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:45 AM

Hey slightly veering off Firefly I know but it is Joss related..

Does anyone have any news on Joss' proposed spin-off The Watcher, that he was due to be undertaking here in the UK with Anthony Stewart Head.

There was brief mention on Buffy season six commentary, but since then I've heard nothing.

Anybody know of any details?

Many thanks.

TheSomnambulist.

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EMBERS

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:56 AM

Tony Head has said at conventions that he doesn't forsee a series at this point (and I thought they were thinking of calling it 'Ripper' anyway), but there is some hope of a made for TV movie....
Evidently Joss approached several Buffyverse actors about doing made for TV movies (James Marsters & Tony Head have both publicly said that they told Joss 'yes'), so I'm hoping something happens with those sometime this year....
Joss has said that altho SMG & DB aren't interested he still has about 10 other characters (which I took to include Giles/Ripper).
So basically there is talk - but I haven't heard about anything definite, nothing that qualifies as 'news'.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 11:15 AM

Cheers Embers

That's more than I knew so thanks. I didn't know they were going to call it Ripper.

Well Ok it's something to look forward to. A made for TV movie would work very nicely I hope that comes off.

Cheers again Embers

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EMBERS

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:48 PM

Well I'm sorry I don't know more Somnambulist
errr or
I guess that should be THE Somnambulist

It is disappointing that it doesn't look like a full series will happen..
because I'm sure there are a lot of stories to tell.
But actually if we get Giles into a couple of TV movies with at least one focused on him as Ripper and as a Watcher, then that really would be nice!
But I'm disappointed that we haven't heard any rumors of scripts being shopped around (altho Joss said that Fox productions were still very keen to make the TV movies...he said that at the Wizard World comic con in Chicago).

So I have my fingers crossed!

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:13 PM

... OK, can someone start a thread that kills this mining of Joss' universe? Especially by Joss himself.

Note: I think Giles is great, the actor is completely watchable and, well, I've been compared to Giles so apparently he's not too far from my personality (or at least I'm boring and read books too much).

Ripper (or The Watcher) isn't a viable story imho. It will collapse under it's own history. A story about Giles now would bog down into a very boring rehashing of old ideas. Though, I've always been impressed with Joss' magic ability to take the stale and make it fun and dramatic.

About the only new stories coming out from the old Buffyverse are the Slayers.

I see only one thing left to do with the Buffyverse....

Buffy and the Slayers!

Could be a band, could be a summer movie. Hey, both!

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:48 PM

Hey Ghoulman

Interesting. Funnily enough I see there being far more mature stories to tell moving away from the whole "Slayer" thing, and in particular the superpower kickin' ass type element.

Also the idea that maybe it would be set here in the UK is far more interesting. :)

Now of course I understand fully the idea of moving on from the established Buffy lore, but if anyone can bring fresh ideas to TV it is Joss.

But this thread was more to find out what the rumblings were. I'd heard things for a while and then suddenly they just stopped. Just wondered why really. And at what stage the concept was at.

Cheers
The Somnambulist

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COSMICFUGITIVE

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:50 PM

I read that Joss, Anthony Head, and the BBC still want to make it. (Although that might be old news.) The tv movie is a good idea though.

Quote:

Originally posted by Ghoulman
Ripper (or The Watcher) isn't a viable story imho. It will collapse under it's own history. A story about Giles now would bog down into a very boring rehashing of old ideas. Though, I've always been impressed with Joss' magic ability to take the stale and make it fun and dramatic.

How much do we really know about Giles? There's alot of stuff from his past that needs to be explored. It could be interesting. Plus, it would be great to see a British perspective of the Buffyverse.
I like the idea of Giles being a ghost hunter.
Alot of people will hate me for drawing comparions here, but it could be like a darker version of Jonathan Creek - only ALOT better. That's how I'd envision it.

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:50 PM

To The Somnambulist - Well, if people as sagacious as you are involved, I'd be more in favour of it.

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Ripper (or The Watcher) isn't a viable story imho. It will collapse under it's own history. A story about Giles now would bog down into a very boring rehashing of old ideas.

Not necessarily.

The old Watcher's Council is gone. We know from Angel that Andrew signed on to help rebuild it. I'd be amazed if Xander, Willow, and likely Dawn don't also join up at some point.

But it wouldn't be just Giles rebuilding the CoW; he's had his share of fights with the old stuffed shirts, and knows their shortcomings intimately. I'd imagine that the COW-as-revived-by-Giles would be a much more dynamic group --especially now that there's an entire army of Slayers wandering around.

Plus, with Wesley gone, Illyria just might go a-wandering. . .

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
Well I'm sorry I don't know more Somnambulist
errr or
I guess that should be THE Somnambulist

It is disappointing that it doesn't look like a full series will happen..
because I'm sure there are a lot of stories to tell.
But actually if we get Giles into a couple of TV movies with at least one focused on him as Ripper and as a Watcher, then that really would be nice!
But I'm disappointed that we haven't heard any rumors of scripts being shopped around (altho Joss said that Fox productions were still very keen to make the TV movies...he said that at the Wizard World comic con in Chicago).

So I have my fingers crossed!

Hey Embers

Somnambulist is fine :)

So fox are interested in it. Was this always the case. I thought Joss had been negotiating with the BBC, was it a co-production thing?

Oh well. Cheers for the updates though, I do appreciate them.

Laters
The Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

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