War on Terror - Winnable?
POSTED BY: Arawaen
UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2026 14:56
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Looking specifically at the hostage school, what should be done about instances like that, if anything?
Or, to put it another way, if you see a bully on the playground beating up on another kid, do you try to beat the crap out of him? If he and his buddies gang up on you and beat the crap out of you, do you go away and let him continue to beat up other kids? Or, alternatively, what if you ARE the biggest kid on the playground and you've defeated the bully- Does this mean that you are also a bully and not a victim?
The short term and long term response can be different. When violence occurs a great deal has gone wrong. Somebody wasn't paying attention and not just in the moments leading up to the attack. Bullies, terrorists, wars don't just spring up suddenly. WWII was decades in the making for example.
However, just because somebody dropped the ball, doesn't mean we are excused from action when the proverbial sh
t hits the fan. It might be necessary to intervene with the bully, it might be necessary to shoot down a hijacked plane, it might be necessary to restrain a suicidal individual, or even invade a nation that is actively harboring terrorists or committing genocide.In the aftermath though, using one example, one can decide to focus on making sure suicidal people don't have access to implements that can harm them or one can decide to focus on dealing with depression.
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Violence should be a last resort, but it is possible that a situation has deteriorated to the point where violence is necessary. I believe that this means people have been negligent up to that point in letting the situation get out of hand, but action to save lives may require immediate violence, usually when violence is already in progress.
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sigmaNunki wrote,
It's also my understanding that bullying (as much as we have today or at least how violent) is a fairly new occurence. I'd conjecture a link between the parents that don't really parent and this phenomenon ie cry for attention. And since the parents don't really teach proper morals, social behaviour, etc anymore, how are our kids supposed to act properly.
I would have to really strongly disagree with this. Bullying is not a new occurence. I think it is part of primate/animal makeup, a need to establish 'dominance' in the tribe. If anything is new is that with the advent of public schooling we have 'tribes' of peers trying to establish a hierarchy within their new environemnt which is distinct from that of their family structure.
I will find some historical episodes of bullying and update this. I don't have any reference with me and would rather be specific than generalize.
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Quote:It's also my understanding that bullying (as much as we have today or at least how violent) is a fairly new occurence. I'd conjecture a link between the parents that don't really parent and this phenomenon ie cry for attention. And since the parents don't really teach proper morals, social behaviour, etc anymore, how are our kids supposed to act properly.
Originally posted by Arawaen:
sigmaNunki wrote,
I would have to really strongly disagree with this. Bullying is not a new occurence. I think it is part of primate/animal makeup, a need to establish 'dominance' in the tribe. If anything is new is that with the advent of public schooling we have 'tribes' of peers trying to establish a hierarchy within their new environemnt which is distinct from that of their family structure.
I will find some historical episodes of bullying and update this. I don't have any reference with me and would rather be specific than generalize.
Arawaen
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Um, I'll quote myself:
"as much as we have today or at least how violent"
So, unless you can specify another era of human history that has has such a rash of school shootings or such violence among the youth I'm going to have to stick with my opinion.
And there have *always* been heirarchies. It's human nature to make a pecking order. You see this even in the *very* young on the playground. It's definitely nothing new.
And people *always* want more power in the group. Whether that means geting listened to more or something else, attention is the key. Since in todays society we have 2 income families where the parents come home to there childrend too tired to parent because they just worked a 10 - 12 hr day, it's no wounder that these 'tribes' are so prevelent. And without basic guidence from parents as to what is acceptable behavious, it's no wounder that these 'tribes' tend to violence.
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Originally posted by Arawaen:
Violence should be a last resort, but it is possible that a situation has deteriorated to the point where violence is necessary. I believe that this means people have been negligent up to that point in letting the situation get out of hand, but action to save lives may require immediate violence, usually when violence is already in progress.
Arawaen
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Never said anything different. I just took it from the angle saying that violence can pretty much always be averted instead of sometings nessassary. I view it as the former, glass half full, and the latter, glass half empty.
Also, the former doesn't allow violence to become an opion for a longer time than the latter as it's not in the phrasing as prominently.
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yay! I knew there was a reason i liked browncoats so much. cause we're smart! top 3% an all...
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for a while there was a mission to bring Democracy to Afghanistan...then in 2021 Kabul fell to the Taliban
is the War on Terror Over?
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British Media Made Fun of Our Deep State's Reaction to Terrorism
https://rumble.com/v65h751-british-media-made-fun-of-our-deep-states-r
eaction-to-terrorism.html
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The only "war on terror" I care about is keeping America safe from these people.
They all need to go.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Fort Bragg mentioned a lot and another Military area
then links between Cybertruck and New Orleans Terror Attack
So this seems to be basic Police / Cop 101 ...if he was building bombs at the Airbnb where they might be finger prints
Why was it later allowed burn down...is this a cover up?
https://forensicunit.weebly.com/crime-scene.html
https://www.virtualacademy.com/blog/police-officer-training-4-procedur
es-for-responding-to-a-crime-scene
https://foreverpolice.com/police-tape-101-everything-you-need-to-know/
even if you can't be there get some guy to arrive with 'Tape. saying Police Line Do Not Cross?
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You can't fight "terrorism".
Terrorism is a TACTIC. Adopted by the weak against the strong.
You can only fight TERRORISTS.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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