LOST - Are they trying to Boil the sea?
POSTED BY: SheWolf
UPDATED: Saturday, August 21, 2004 13:33
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SheWolf , I sure as hell hope you are a child or seriously drunk ! Otherwise you are seriously stupid and uninformed!
It is called the UNITED NATIONS because it is an organization for nations (ie. countries) who WANT to united!
After the second world war everybody didn't want any more wars, death and destruction, they founded the United Nations with the these Goals:
To prevent war
To assure human rights
To promote better living standards in a life of freedom
To persuade countries to follow international law
Its not a government, they can't tax things or any of that shit. Its a democratic (which has nothing to do with the democratic party, if you are that dense) organization. ALL countries who have chosen to be part of the UN send representatives to the meetings, and the all vote on what they do.
They don't just decide you need a permit to catch a fish. But if there was a good reason NOT to fish they might wish to do something about it. And good reason is good for the planet, not just your personal bank account. All the member states would work to make a new treaty - including the people from your country, who are sent by your government, who is democratically elected by your people. In the end they vote, usually by then all the countries have agreed, or most of them. Yes, sometimes you have to live with something you don't like much, that's called compromise - that's called democracy - that's called living with other people - just like living in the United States! In fact just like that, just like there are some laws all states must follow they also have a lot of individual laws. Same with countries, they make their own laws, but for a few things there are higher laws they need to follow. Mostly because they themselves have signed them, but sometimes other countries force them (mostly the US threatening to blow them away - though the rest of the world is trying to get them to act a bit more sensible)
But nobody forces anyone to be part of the United Nations.
If a country doesn't want to work to prevent war, to assure human rights, promote better living standards and equality among humans and ignore all laws, they can leave any time they like, and nobody could do anything about it - except go to war, and only the US does that at a drop of a hat. And while most of the world feels that Bush doesn't care much human rights and international laws the United STATES hasn't left the United NATIONS yet.
And when the many countries of the UN got together to talk about the oceans, its because this is an area with potential for problem, not only are we (the planet) still polluting them to a dangerous degree, it could also be an area which starts new wars (it has already been close a few times), because countries keep extending "their area" out into the sea, and end up bumping into other areas which could lead to all kinds of messiness.
The UN has as its goal to make the world a bit better, and all the people from all the different countries who are agree - sure they may wish a bigger cut for themselves, but they have to reach an agreement, because the alternative isn't too good.
And how many countries are in the UN?
Of all the countries of the planet earth? All of them, except TWO!
All except Taiwan, and Vatican City (which technically is a country)
Be glad there is a UN - if you think the world is dangerous today, just think how bad it could have been if they hadn't prevented tons of problems already.
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This would have been an excellent post, save for this line:
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Originally posted by LexiBlock:
SheWolf , I sure as hell hope you are a child or seriously drunk ! Otherwise you are seriously stupid and uninformed!
Insulting comments do nothing to forward your opinion.
Peace
FS
... like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick.
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And here I thought you were spoiling a strange plot twist for ABC's upcoming adventure show:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/schedule/2004-05/lost.html
(note my boy Daniel Day Kim is co-starring...)
Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.
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Originally posted by LexiBlock:
SheWolf , I sure as hell hope you are a child or seriously drunk ! Otherwise you are seriously stupid and uninformed!
That is uncalled for! We all have our own opinions, and this message board is a place for all of us to be able to discuss things in a welcome and orderly manner. If you don't like what SheWolf said, tell her why you disagree, not that she is stupid.
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I'm just curious how anyone who isn't an elitest can support Bush he doesn't give a rats ass about this country or the hard working people in it..Bush and the Bush admistration are not republicans..their not conservatives either they are something else altogether
I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I'm curious how anyone can support Bush I'm serious!!!
because as it stands now I see anyone who supports him as having some serious charactor flaws..either that..or they are just ingnorant and uninformed who don't know whats going on..or they make a whole lot of money and are elitest themselves and just don't give a damn!! either way its a charator flaw!!!
if your uninformed and ignorant then let me clue you in to somethings
their whole family is corrupt...with ties to the nazis..George Bush Sr.'s father was working for the nazis he was the banker for the Nazi Germany and had direct ties to Hitler during wwII...so bascially he was a trader to his country..was proscecuted but was allowed to keep his money..so the Bush money comes from Nazi facist
The Bush's are tied in with the FreeMason's and masonic groups ( elitiest)Skull& Bones ring any bells
Jeb Bush was involved in some shady real Estate dealings
Neo Bush is also a crimnal embezzeling money..that name is somehow fitting
George Bush Jr. himself was involved with the SL scam..stole 4 million dollars and never made any attempts to pay it back
not only that but is an admitted alcholic, and had a coke snorting problem and had several DUI's
( is it any wonder he can't put together a sentence)
his daughters seem to be picking up his bad habits
his wife Laura Bush..killed her ex boyfriend ran him over and was never even booked into custody
( must be nice)
and this is just some of the stuff thats known to the public..their whole family is crime ridden and sick..
now on to bigger topics....War Mongering and and profiting and stealing from us tax payers
911...ummm they knew it was going to happen and didn't try to stop it..The Bush admistration was going to get their excuse to go warring on Iraq at any cost ..and they didn't mind using innocent American lives to do it
lied about the reasons for going to Iraq
gave most of the defense contracts to Halleburton, ( reminds me of the Blue sun corp)
halleburton has been stealing from us left and right Dick cheny was the CEO of the company and still is tied to Halleburton..
they sent our American troops over to Iraq under false pretenses and lies...gave most of the defense contacts to Halleburton..and our troops can't even get protective gear bullet proof vest and don't have enough bullets to protect themselves....not only that..but they aren't getting decent meals
all the things that Halleburton is suppose to provide..since they are being given billions and billions of our taxpayer dollars to provide
these things
every company that gets defense contracts are suppose to go through an audit..but Halleburton refused to do this(..wow must be nice to be able to refuse to do an audit) speacial concessions are being made for Halleburton they don't have to do the audit...seeing as how they were charging $80.00 for a peice of ply wood and can't account for billions and billions of dollars I fully understand why they wouldn't want to do the audit..whats not acceptable ..is that they don't have to...
( wow this government really cares about the troops don't they)
Military families aren't being taken care of , and are struggling
you've also got defense contractors from Halleburton over in Iraq running the miltary..giving soilders orders to torture people.... this is a travesty
then look at all of the deregulating that the Bush admistration is implementing..on our enviroment water resources media outlets..its very scary
or the so called homeland Security measures which give the government the right to put people in jail with out a trial...or gives them the right to tap your phones for any reason or look into your libary or computer files..
alot of these unconstit
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It's really amazing, Bush is our president. Is this really the best we can do? Is Kerry any better? Name a President in the last 30 years that was actually worth a damn. I still can't believe John McCain lost the nomination to Bush. It is sick.
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Originally posted by sgtgump:
It's really amazing, Bush is our president. Is this really the best we can do? Is Kerry any better? Name a President in the last 30 years that was actually worth a damn. I still can't believe John McCain lost the nomination to Bush. It is sick.
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Vote Libertarian.
I don't like Kerry either or Mcain for that matter...but its not like we have much of a choice..at this point just about anyone is a better choice then Bush and the current administration..I do think that Clinton made a diffrence..with the econmy and having a surplus instead of a deficit..that is something that this Country had not experienced in decades..more people were able to purchase homes during his 8 years then they had in decades..the middle class grew.. people can fault Clinton on alot of things but not the econmy so in 30 years I would have to say that he did make some diffrence
if there are going to be any real changes in this country..it isn't going to come from politians... politics is too boggled down with special intrest and corporations...the public servants don't serve the public..they serve special intrest
whats that saying for the people by the people..thats a joke..its all about the Speical intrest and Corporations...
and the average common folk..is to busy being petty so wrapped up in Repbulican and Democrate..instead up whats best for the country as whole..instead of focusing on whats best for the average American citizen as a whole were all fools some more then others but where all fools we have tremdous power and we don't use it..and its only a matter of time before we loose it..all of it!!
we Americans have gotten lazy..we've forgotten that all the good things all the freedoms and the things that we hold scared ..didn't just happen ..it wasn't just given to us..people fought and died and shed blood for every good thing about this country everything that we enjoy and take pride in..even the little things like working and 8 hour day instead of a 12 or 15 hour a day..came because someone fought and died..or that we have unions...so many things
We as Americans are going to have to realize that we have the power..and stop giving our power away because if we keep up the way we are one day we are going to wake up and be like what in the hell happened ..we are going to be living in our own little Nazi Germany...people think it can't happen it can...America is a young country..just ask all those other countries its happened too..greed and Power is very desirable and there are those out there who will do anything to get it
We Americans are going to have to take back the power stop sitting on our ass and make our public servants be accountable to us for what they do.. and until we do..not much is going to change.. sad but true!!
was it Ben Franklin who said those that give up their freedom in the name of security ..don't deserve freedon..
we can whine and cry all day long about how nothing is going to change....but its not going to change anything
ok I'm getting off my soap box now!!
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Originally posted by sgtgump:Quote:
Originally posted by LexiBlock:
SheWolf , I sure as hell hope you are a child or seriously drunk ! Otherwise you are seriously stupid and uninformed!
That is uncalled for! We all have our own opinions,
Yes, and INFORMED opinions are worth respect (even if people believe something you don't) Uninformed opinions (ie, total shit which has nothing to do with reality) are not worth ANY RESPECT - only contempt.
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Bush actually happens to favor LOST (perhaps nobody explained it to him ;-)
The rabid objections to it are from people who are politically to the right of Bush. Since Bush is waay beyond the fringes of right-wing radicalism, there is not much room there other than the lunatic fringe.
LOST MAINTAINS almost all established traditional maritime custom including control of national borders and national ownership of territorial waters. A great deal of the law that guards against piracy, dumping of toxic or radioactive waste, and access to international waters is based on CUSTOM - the purpose of LOST is to have a signed agreement among nations to honor that custom. It PROTECTS the US and all other nations from violations by other nations.
The writer argues that the UN might tax our trade. The UN has no legal ability to tax anyone anywhere, and has never sought that ability.
The writer argues that the UN would determine which ships the US can board and which they cannot, making the assumption that the US SHOULD have the right to board ANY ship if it thinks that ship might be connected to terrorism. If the US has that right, what prevents any other nation from claiming the same right to board US ships? Does she seriously want to void the provisions of maritime law that would protect US ships from being boarded and presumably searched by our enemies and competitors?
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Originally posted by LexiBlock:
All except Taiwan, and Vatican City (which technically is a country)
Taiwan is not really a country, it has an autonomy, but its still part of China.
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