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Donald Trump Won the Iran War

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Sunday, August 9, 2026 12:13
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Saturday, August 8, 2026 2:00 AM

The maximalists wanted regime change, the minimalists wanted nothing, and the doubters see only waffling. Carafano’s answer: the victor gets to define victory — and everywhere you look, the region is moving Trump’s way.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2026/08/donald-trump-won-the-iran-war/#goo
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Iran War Turns into Trump Middle East Triumph: We are about to see the biggest reshaping of the Middle East since Moses led the Jews out of Egypt.

Like the pharaoh, who missed every warning sign up to the parting of the Red Sea, the critics and questioners of Trump’s tug-of-war with what’s left of the Iran regime seem obtuse to the prophetic truth that the region will never be the same again—in a good way.

Winning is the Only Thing

Condemnation of the Trumpian way of war comes from corners that have a vested interest in seeing Trump’s triumph as a loss.

Maximalists. They would only be happy if Trump fought the war they wanted, arguing that nothing less than overthrowing the regime would do. Anything else is a defeat and a humiliation. That’s a perversion of the president’s more limited goals to eliminate the regime’s capacity to bully and destabilize the region—objectives largely accomplished.

Minimalists. They would only be satisfied if America did nothing, contending, “Trump has dragged the United States into a needless war with Iran—and one with no clear end,” ignoring that the regime building a nuclear arsenal; constantly threatening its neighbors; plotting the assassination of U.S. officials; and engineering the horrific October 7 attacks on Israel were clear and present dangers, and that Trump demolished these threats in a way that no other American president ever came close to even denting.

Procrastinators. They are impatient and confused by what they see as Trump’s waffling, vacillating between negotiating and punishing the regime, overlooking the deep conviction behind his strategy, a sincere humanitarian streak which abhors needless loss of life—ours and theirs. Since he has largely accomplished our war aims, Trump can take a more measured approach to get to the end-state he wants without unnecessary loss of life and needless destruction. Instead, he is “de-risking—every time the Iranians fail to meet their obligations or retaliate, he takes more capabilities and assets of Iran off the table.” Rest assured, worriers, that while the war may only be over when the enemy quits—the truth is that the enemy has already lost, and now the only prospect they face is that the more they fight, the more they lose.

Obstructionists. They are what’s left leading Iran, insisting that as long as they are still standing and resisting, they win, conveniently passing over the point that Trump has humbled and humiliated the regime, virtually decimating their armed forces and crippling Iran’s economy.

All the above opinions can largely be discounted. Not only are they wrong, but none have the power or capacity to deter Trump from his course. Nor should he take the counsel of their fears.

There is zero evidence to doubt Trump’s resolve—and plenty of facts to argue he should steel his determination and follow through.
Theory of Victory

The victor gets to define victory.

Every war leader, in every war, has their detractors. Commanders-in-chief need a better metric to judge their efforts than taking the counsel of discontented doubters.

A good fight has a “theory of victory,” a logical, feasible, suitable, and acceptable means to justify calling a win in war. That guidepost is the best measure of success.

For Trump, a win is to squash Iran’s capacity to destabilize the region, creating space for regional collective security, reconstruction, and economic resilience, providing a long-term deterrent against a resurgent regime. From the Abraham Accords to the work of the Board of Peace, and major economic initiatives like IMEC and Tripp, the expectation is that the real measure of Iranian defeat is if these initiatives flourish. That’s the theory of victory.

The real test of “is Tru

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 4:19 AM

President Donald Trump has largely failed to achieve his core stated objectives in the conflict with Iran, including bringing about regime change, permanently dismantling Iran's military and missile capabilities, and securing safe, uninhibited commercial passage through the vital Strait of Hormuz.

Unmet Strategic Goals

• Regime Change: The ruling government in Tehran remains completely intact, with the security apparatus and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) staying firmly loyal.

• Military and Missile Destruction: Despite heavy U.S. and Israeli airstrikes, Iran has retained substantial portions of its missile and drone arsenals and continues regional operations.

• Strait of Hormuz Control: The administration failed to secure immediate, unhindered maritime traffic, leading to an ongoing economic crisis over shipping lanes and regional energy transport.

• Total Nuclear Elimination: While enrichment infrastructure suffered severe setbacks, analysts note that the underlying scientific knowledge and capability to rebuild remain viable.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 4:50 AM

You are a very stupid person.

Where did you steal that?

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 5:01 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a very stupid person.

Where did you steal that?

Many within the administration as well as outside analysts agree that The Only Way To Decisively Defeat Iran would be through a major operation involving ground troops, a commitment that would cost thousands of American lives. The Pentagon considers all scenarios, so those plans exist, but as of now no one in the administration is arguing for such drastic action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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THG
Saturday, August 8, 2026 5:48 AM

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Originally posted by second:
President Donald Trump has largely failed to achieve his core stated objectives in the conflict with Iran, including bringing about regime change, permanently dismantling Iran's military and missile capabilities, and securing safe, uninhibited commercial passage through the vital Strait of Hormuz.

Unmet Strategic Goals

• Regime Change: The ruling government in Tehran remains completely intact, with the security apparatus and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) staying firmly loyal.

• Military and Missile Destruction: Despite heavy U.S. and Israeli airstrikes, Iran has retained substantial portions of its missile and drone arsenals and continues regional operations.

• Strait of Hormuz Control: The administration failed to secure immediate, unhindered maritime traffic, leading to an ongoing economic crisis over shipping lanes and regional energy transport.

• Total Nuclear Elimination: While enrichment infrastructure suffered severe setbacks, analysts note that the underlying scientific knowledge and capability to rebuild remain viable.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





Agreed...

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 7:24 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a very stupid person.

Where did you steal that?

Many within the administration as well as outside analysts agree that The Only Way To Decisively Defeat Iran would be through a major operation involving ground troops, a commitment that would cost thousands of American lives. The Pentagon considers all scenarios, so those plans exist, but as of now no one in the administration is arguing for such drastic action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Apparently, you still haven't read the article.

Shut the fuck up until you do, stupid.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 7:27 AM

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Nobody gives a shit about your input, retard. Least of all Shit Golem who ignores 99% of your posts because he is embarrassed every day that you're the only person left here that agrees with him on anything.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 7:38 AM

Trump Gives Iran One Last Chance. Tehran Is the One Running Out of Time

Economic strangulation threatens something much harder to survive: the regime's ability to pay the soldiers and police who keep it in power.

https://amgreatness.com/2026/08/07/trump-gives-iran-one-last-chance-te
hran-is-the-one-running-out-of-time
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Democrats wouldn't get that because they're Communists and think that money is free.

You want to see what happens when you run out of cash to pay your "loyal" soldiers?



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Saturday, August 8, 2026 10:15 AM

a Delusional Cult?

so dumb it makes Lefty media like CNN relevant again?

Ex-Trump Appointee Compares Leaving MAGA ‘Cult’ To ‘Coming Out Of An Abusive Relationship’
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https://www.theamericanconservative.com/israel-vetoes-trump-in-the-mid
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Rep. Thomas Massie Says Americans Will 'Quit Watching Fox News' When 'Reality' Hits Their Wallets
https://radaronline.com/p/thomas-massie-americans-will-quit-watching-f
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How Iran's Missile Capabilities Surprised the US
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=DJ6muePuQko

June 2025
https://thelibertydaily.com/trump-urges-iran-pursue-peace-warns-future
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The Netanyahu Plan to Control America
https://ronpaulforums.com/threads/the-netanyahu-plan-to-control-americ
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the cult gets worse? Maga Trump refute psychological expertise...Emperor has no clothes...but living in reality and they don’t want to quit the delusion




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the real numbers

Billions and Billions for Wars while the national debt is projected to reach approximately $39.7 trillion

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Trump Gives Iran One Last Chance.



I thought Orange Moron won?

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
a Delusional Cult

so dumb it makes Lefty media like CNN relevant again?



Wow... Let's see...

An article by terminally brainrotted Huffington Post.

An article by CNN themselves?

An article by Newsweek about something I've never even heard about until just 5 seconds ago, and probably won't ever hear about again.

And a site called radaronline that I've never heard of before.

Did you go on/off your meds? Have you recently fallen down and hit your head?

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Trump Gives Iran One Last Chance.



I thought Orange Moron won?



Yeah. He did.

He did a long time ago.

They don't have any real leadership. They're out of money. They're fighting each other and people are going rouge and doing roguish things that roguish people do when there is nobody in charge of the rogues.

I already told you. The only way this ends immediately and forever is if we drop nukes on them.

I'm game. Let's fucking do it.


In the meantime they're going to start killing each other soon.

It's hardly even a war. It hardly ever was.

Everybody is a big dumb fucking crybaby in 2026.



Keep talking stupid shit and forgetting about everything we've gained up to this point too.

Are you trying to give Kamala Harris a chance in 2028? Is that what you want, Mr. Black Pill? Wide open borders again?

Shut the fuck up, you stupid cunt.

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