It Should Be Obvious By Now That Not Everyone Can Become An American
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UPDATED: Monday, July 21, 2025 01:25
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We have to reject the toxic multicultural ideology, popular for many decades, that degrades citizenship to mere process neutralism.
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There is perhaps no greater issue in American life today than the debate over citizenship and national identity. I don’t just mean the debate over illegal immigration, which often serves as a kind of proxy for the underlying debate over what it means to be an American and preserve a distinctly American nation.
Yes, we have to secure our border and put a stop to illegal immigration. But that’s just part — and arguably a small part — of a much larger and more difficult problem, which concerns American identity, national sovereignty, and cultural cohesion.
I wrote last week that in America today not everyone with citizenship is actually an American. To some, this might sound incendiary or extreme. Certainly it violates the tenets of multiculturalism that have been ascendent in America for decades now. But it’s actually just a straightforward observation of reality — so long as we understand that being an American means something more than merely securing legal documents or going through a neutral administrative process. Doing so might confer citizenship, but it will not make someone an American.
Vice President J.D. Vance hit on this in a speech for the Claremont Institute over the weekend. “You cannot swap 10 million people from anywhere in the world and expect America to remain unchanged,” he said. “You cannot export the Constitution to some random country and expect the same kind of government. Our citizens are not interchangeable cogs in the global economy.”
Vance is exactly right, and his point gets at the heart of what we’re really debating when we argue about border security, or mass deportations, or immigration visas. The reason we have an immigration system at all, at least in theory, is to ensure that we know who comes into this country and that they come in on our terms and for our benefit. It is our interests, not those of would-be immigrants or asylum-seekers, that our immigration system should strive to serve above all.
But beyond immigration, Vance is touching on something essential about America that has been largely lost, suppressed really, for more than a generation: America is not just a “propositional nation,” not just an idea but a people. That’s why you cannot export the Constitution to some random country and expect the same kind of government or suddenly import millions of people from foreign lands and expect America to survive. We are not a set of abstract propositions to which anyone from any part of the world can assent and suddenly become an American. We are a people with a common language, culture, history, customs, and so on.
About 20 years ago, Pat Buchanan had a more pugnacious version of what Vance said: “It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase.”
This is an important point, and it has to be asserted even at the risk of being falsely accused of racism or xenophobia. A nation requires a certain amount of cultural cohesion — common language, customs, morality, and way of life. That means some cultures and creeds are simply not compatible with American civilization. Multiculturalism, in other words, is a dangerous delusion that, combined with mass immigration, is a nation-destroyer.
And while it’s true that part of our American heritage is a belief in the principles laid out in the Declaration of Independence — like “all men are created equal” that apply universally, to all people — it’s totally wrong to claim that our national identity begins and ends with that set of principles, and that therefore anyone who adopts them is by definition an American.
For one thing, not every creed and culture will accept the thoroughly Chris
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That opinion is by John Daniel Davidson.
Because the new Woke Superman refuses to fight for Truth, Justice, and The American Way, we should probably deport him.
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the ethnostate theocratic Christ Killers of Israel are not 'Western Civilization' and the sandbox is not Western, the Hindi and their Caste is not 'Western' and a North Korean Communist praying to 'Kim' is not 'the West' and neither is a socialist praying to Chavez or Maduro, jihadi islamo mohammedans are not Western civilization.
Jefferson didn’t accept that Jesus was more than just a great teacher., Jefferson created a “Jefferson Bible” that emphasized Jesus only as a teacher of ethics and removed stories about God’s many miracles...focused on the guy that was hard to anger but sometimes would whip the Jew from the Temples?
if you do Voodoo rituals that torture chickens ...is that vodoo sandbox culture is that 'Becoming an American'...tell your people to do crimes, but then say if you do a bloody chicken torture ritual the Chosen Person jew avoids going to hell...and a bird is tricked...just a stupid 'Goyim' get tricked
senile Reagan was a moron and so was every other President after that era, as bad and corrupt as Trump is at least for a very brief moment it seemed to offer something different
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“You cannot export the Constitution to some random country and expect the same kind of government. Our citizens are not interchangeable cogs in the global economy.”
Liberia or Libya...is there a difference?
one of them had the US Constitution
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What's your hard on for Trump about?
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
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Quote:He is still illiterate.
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What's your hard on for Trump about?
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Since we dont have a national identity anymore, it's difficult to measure anyone against something that doesn't exist.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
"Constant monitoring of behavior, emotion, and identity breeds conformity, judgment, and fear."
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Since we dont have a national identity anymore, it's difficult to measure anyone against something that doesn't exist.
That might just be the most depressing sentence that I've read.
Not because it's wrong. But because I don't know how to build an argument against it. And because even when we did, a lot of that was just built on propoganda for a simpler people during much simpler times.
Don't mean to be insulting when I say it like that. Not even referencing the overall intelligence either, as they probably were quite a bit more intelligent on the average just because most of them had to be for one reason or another, not even counting the lack of technology.
They just weren't dialed in 24/7 and hadn't had two or three generations of their family getting fucked on the regular behind them is all. They didn't have any reasons not to believe 'em when they came knocking on the door and saying "we're from the government and we're here to help".
Could be just nostalgia speaking, because we're all guilty of that to some degree. But I think my generation is probably the last that really got a taste of that older and better world before it all changed. Got to spend at least a few years as a young adult before 9/11 happened, and another decade or so before smartphones fried everyone's brains.
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end dual citizenship
as a collection of people the USA can be very schizo but some people make their disgusting positions very clear
I doubt very much the vile Anti-American retard JewishStateFAN has read a book in the past ten years.
JewishStateFAN a rotting decaying pea brain.
No moral value no USA position other than Zion Judea, sneaks into conversations nasty and rodent like, shouts some idiotic Zionist nonsense from the dead McCain or Rush Limbaugh bumper sticker! Vile and shapeshifts chameleon like even as much as Soros, Piers Morgan or Ghislane Maxwell, scurries away again back into the shape shifter political Canadian Jew Israeli une province du Canada rat hole from which he came.
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That might just be the most depressing sentence that I've read.
Time to put an end to the dual citizens?
Arab mohammeadans nasty infiltration but the Jews can be some of the most nasty ungrateful people, the USA dying and bleeding on those beaches yet there are Jewish who hate them.
even cheer the bombing of the USS Liberty!?
The USA prays to Jew Walls, forbidden speech, wrong thinking, Orwell and a sleazy media banker eye watching! and despite the Philosemitism, also called Judeophilia in the USA, they will still hate...a big scam to worship a shapeshifting criminal culture and 'Tricky' so trick the Goyim because the USA is a 'sucker' just like they have suckered hundreds of other nations and kingdoms. Oh but 'we did no crime'! they say and been thrown out and banned from those Kingdoms, banned out of dozens of coutries for centuries. One of the worst things you can be to the Jew Zionist Israeli is the 'Freier' or frayer, they can put a puppet show on stage but if you get tricked by their puppets or swindles or Golems or fake counterfeit money you are the sucker, you are the lowest of the low, below a criminal...a sap, a patsy, to be suckered is one of the worst things in Jewish society.
The Arab Iranian Pakistani Morocco types have also managed to sneak inside, they are less sophisticated and are more likely to suicide bomb or hijack planes and fly them into buildings...but to go into the whole Saudi 911 cover-up would open up a whole other world of conspiracy.
The corrupt and depression? What I see is Presidents who promise everything, mobs go out, zombie votes or maybe people who just want something different 'Hopium' a new man or woman is on stage they get worshiped for a while. The USA tries to kick the can down the road before the next recession and more Foreign Taxes to fund walls for Israel? For a while they USA also fought to keep former French culture, it would worry about Lebanon or Haiti or Vietnam French Indo-China... then the USA just gave up caring for a decaying culture that did not even care for itself. The Eastern Europe front? You really don't know what he is going to do with Russia and Ukraine, he might tweet something nice one day and then get angry see something on social media and post something totally opposite on social media another day.
He doesn't like big Groups, the EU, Brics, he prefers single personalities and Trump likes talking one-on-one with people, mono e mono a mishearing vs mano a mano, Trump wants his hand to hand one-to-one deal.
Francophiles, giving a crap for their dying former French empire...that's over!
I wouldnt go to France or FRANCE IS NO LONER FRANCE! but I think Trump would like if Britain remained 'British'.
The Founding Fathers would probably see a lot of the religion that are in the USA today as some kind of Devilish Satanic Abomination.
What's the postcard picture? Christian Nuclear Family, you're free in America to speak, the government leaves you alone! and Cowboy with Wife on a small farm with gun, you can go to the big city to make money or stay in the countryside playing an old guitar or banjo or read a book where everyone could one day be free.
After winning the 'Cold War' a
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there are things Trump has done that I like such as baning immigration from jihadi terror states, it was not a 'Muslim Ban'unlike the lying news media claims. Trump didnt just ban jihaid muzzies or muslim illegals, Venezuela, North Korea were banned and they are not islamic
is there a better option?
"Dual citizens elected to the United States Congress should renounce citizenship in all other countries," said Rep. Massie
ZionDon President Trump Says There Are No Files, Wants to Sue the News ...Shut It Down!! and Epstein Critics are Being Used by Hoax Obama Democrats...he is getting distracted with online tweets and fights online with Hollyweird celebrities then says he will tariff and sanction everything to rescue Hollyweird
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Well, I suppose we can start be defining what America is NOT: It's not Israel, Gaza, Mexico, Colombia, Brazil, Ukraine, Taiwan ... Libya, Iraq, Syria, Georgia, Romania, Poland, Russia or any of the OTHER nations in the world. America isn't even Canada or NATO.
So anyone, IMHO, who works for the well-being or security of another nation is a traitor, bc working for the well being of another nation inevitably means spending treasure (i.e. taxpayer money) if not blood, and means that someone is more loyal to another nation than to America.
IMHO America DOES have foreign interests, but they're about resources that we necessarily buy from other nations, and trade routes.
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And JAYNZE, I agree: dual citizenship? Shouldn't be allowed.
Also, America isn't the military, as much as THGR seems to think. (BTW I suspect THGR isn't American.) The military is meant to protect America and our legitimate interests abraod, but it doesn't define America.
America isn't corporations either. The FF and early Americans envisioned corporations as being limited to one commodity or activity (eg building a road, establishing a city) and limited in time to 20 years. Bc of their experience with the East India Crown Corporation, they were pretty wary of monopolies and world- straddling enterprises.
Some were pretty wary of banks, too. They were alive to the role of the Bank of England in maintaining colonial relationships in the British Empire.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger
"Constant monitoring of behavior, emotion, and identity breeds conformity, judgment, and fear."
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