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Trump effect: Study finds 1 million illegal immigrants have left U.S. since January

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Saturday, September 5, 2026 12:10
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Wednesday, December 17, 2025 5:35 PM

Trump claimed 51 million illegals, ordinary illegals but also drug dealers, terrorists, rapists, people who eat cats and dogs entered the USA

FIFTY ONE million

https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-51m-illegals-not-entered-203512760.html

mid-Terms?

at the current rate it would take until 2076 to deport them

thats almost the 22nd Century

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Wednesday, February 11, 2026 6:46 AM


Updating with December's Jobs Report from January:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Interesting.

The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census.
On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up.

Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year.

Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident.

Should be interesting to see.

I agree.

Please keep this thread in mind and keep us up to date on this one.

Any solid correlation provided would be excellent news.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Alright, so I took a look at some of this.
Turns out, the BLS Jobs Report actually does publish the raw numbers, sort of. The data referred to is in Table A-7 each month. The A-series of Tables are from the survey which is performed by Census, but the census population figures each month are not correlated, not aligned with this A-7 data.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

The Census (Dept of Commerce) does not seem to actually publish or report the data. But they do compile the surveys and data, provided to BLS - yet also provide BLS with Population data which they refuse to correct/align until January. And then BLS publishes this data provided by Census.

I have not used, watched, or kept track of these figures - because they do not directly control the numbers used to relate Unemployment.
I think I'll try to list some of this data, but due to BLS revisions, I won't be able to ensure continuity of data. The Unemployment data I post and update is from was is initially published, and not retroactively revised, changed, altered. But the available data now will obviously be whatever BLS has archived.

Table B-1 gives Total nonfarm employees, Private, Government, Federal Government, State Government, Local Government.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Legend:
1st data column is Civilian Population.
2nd is Labor Force.
3rd is Foreign Born Population.
4th is the increase since same month last year.
5th is the increase since January.
6th is the count below the preceding peak count.
7th is Foreign Born Labor Force.
8th is LF increase since January.
9th is LF drop since the preceding peak count.
10th is Foreign Born Employed.
11th is Foreign Born Unemployed.
12th is Total nonfarm employees, of the total employed Labor Force.
13th is Government Employees. Then are Federal, State, and Local..




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Mo/Yr CivPop LbrFrc FBPop >LYr > Jan < Pk FB LF > Jan < Pk FBEmp Unem | Ttl nf Govrn Fed State Local
Jan98 204238 135951
Jan99 206719 137943
Jan00 208782 139621
Jan01 210889 141049
Jan02 213089 141074

Jan02 216506 143228
Jan03 219897 145301
Jan04 222161 146068
Jan05 224837 147125
Jan06 227553 149090
Jan07 230650 151924
Jan08 232616 152828
Jan09 234739 153445
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050
Jan16 08309

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Thursday, February 12, 2026 12:34 PM


Updating with today's Jobs Report:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Interesting.

The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census.
On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up.

Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year.

Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident.

Should be interesting to see.

I agree.

Please keep this thread in mind and keep us up to date on this one.

Any solid correlation provided would be excellent news.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Alright, so I took a look at some of this.
Turns out, the BLS Jobs Report actually does publish the raw numbers, sort of. The data referred to is in Table A-7 each month. The A-series of Tables are from the survey which is performed by Census, but the census population figures each month are not correlated, not aligned with this A-7 data.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

The Census (Dept of Commerce) does not seem to actually publish or report the data. But they do compile the surveys and data, provided to BLS - yet also provide BLS with Population data which they refuse to correct/align until January. And then BLS publishes this data provided by Census.

I have not used, watched, or kept track of these figures - because they do not directly control the numbers used to relate Unemployment.
I think I'll try to list some of this data, but due to BLS revisions, I won't be able to ensure continuity of data. The Unemployment data I post and update is from was is initially published, and not retroactively revised, changed, altered. But the available data now will obviously be whatever BLS has archived.

Table B-1 gives Total nonfarm employees, Private, Government, Federal Government, State Government, Local Government.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Legend:
1st data column is Civilian Population.
2nd is Labor Force.
3rd is Foreign Born Population.
4th is the increase since same month last year.
5th is the increase since January.
6th is the count below the preceding peak count.
7th is Foreign Born Labor Force.
8th is LF increase since January.
9th is LF drop since the preceding peak count.
10th is Foreign Born Employed.
11th is Foreign Born Unemployed.
12th is Total nonfarm employees, of the total employed Labor Force.
13th is Government Employees. Then are Federal, State, and Local..




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Mo/Yr CivPop LbrFrc FBPop >LYr > Jan < Pk FB LF > Jan < Pk FBEmp Unem | Ttl nf Govrn Fed State Local
Jan98 204238 135951
Jan99 206719 137943
Jan00 208782 139621
Jan01 210889 141049
Jan02 213089 141074

Jan02 216506 143228
Jan03 219897 145301
Jan04 222161 146068
Jan05 224837 147125
Jan06 227553 149090
Jan07 230650 151924
Jan08 232616 152828
Jan09 234739 153445
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9%

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Sunday, April 5, 2026 2:23 AM

6ix, did you see the note at the bottom of the Table 6 post in Unemployment thread? It took me a little to iron out what they did, how they reversed and manipulated the population figure for January. That delayed me updating here.

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Sunday, April 5, 2026 2:32 AM


Updating with today's Jobs Report:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Interesting.

The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census.
On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up.

Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year.

Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident.

Should be interesting to see.

I agree.

Please keep this thread in mind and keep us up to date on this one.

Any solid correlation provided would be excellent news.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Alright, so I took a look at some of this.
Turns out, the BLS Jobs Report actually does publish the raw numbers, sort of. The data referred to is in Table A-7 each month. The A-series of Tables are from the survey which is performed by Census, but the census population figures each month are not correlated, not aligned with this A-7 data.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

The Census (Dept of Commerce) does not seem to actually publish or report the data. But they do compile the surveys and data, provided to BLS - yet also provide BLS with Population data which they refuse to correct/align until January. And then BLS publishes this data provided by Census.

I have not used, watched, or kept track of these figures - because they do not directly control the numbers used to relate Unemployment.
I think I'll try to list some of this data, but due to BLS revisions, I won't be able to ensure continuity of data. The Unemployment data I post and update is from was is initially published, and not retroactively revised, changed, altered. But the available data now will obviously be whatever BLS has archived.

Table B-1 gives Total nonfarm employees, Private, Government, Federal Government, State Government, Local Government.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Legend:
1st data column is Civilian Population.
2nd is Labor Force.
3rd is Foreign Born Population.
4th is the increase since same month last year.
5th is the increase since January.
6th is the count below the preceding peak count.
7th is Foreign Born Labor Force.
8th is LF increase since January.
9th is LF drop since the preceding peak count.
10th is Foreign Born Employed.
11th is Foreign Born Unemployed.
12th is Total nonfarm employees, of the total employed Labor Force.
13th is Government Employees. Then are Federal, State, and Local..




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Mo/Yr CivPop LbrFrc FBPop >LYr > Jan < Pk FB LF > Jan < Pk FBEmp Unem | Ttl nf Govrn Fed State Local
Jan98 204238 135951
Jan99 206719 137943
Jan00 208782 139621
Jan01 210889 141049
Jan02 213089 141074

Jan02 216506 143228
Jan03 219897 145301
Jan04 222161 146068
Jan05 224837 147125
Jan06 227553 149090
Jan07 230650 151924
Jan08 232616 152828
Jan09 234739 153445
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3.9%

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Sunday, April 5, 2026 2:41 AM

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/numbers-show-how-much-trump-has-s
lashed-government-workforce


"President Trump’s pro-growth economic agenda is fueling American prosperity the right way. All of the job creation under President Trump has so far been in the private sector while federal government employment has shrunk to its lowest level since 1966 – projected to save taxpayers 29 billion dollars annually," White House regional press secretary Liz Huston told Fox Business.

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Sunday, April 5, 2026 3:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/numbers-show-how-much-trump-has-s
lashed-government-workforce


"President Trump’s pro-growth economic agenda is fueling American prosperity the right way. All of the job creation under President Trump has so far been in the private sector while federal government employment has shrunk to its lowest level since 1966 – projected to save taxpayers 29 billion dollars annually," White House regional press secretary Liz Huston told Fox Business.



They're taking away my healthcare after adding $200 billion yearly to the military, and now they want $1.5 Trillion a year for the military.

$29 Billion isn't saved if you already spent 20 to 30 times that amount you weren't spending before, elsewhere.

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Friday, June 5, 2026 2:06 PM


Updating with last months's Jobs Report:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Interesting.

The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census.
On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up.

Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year.

Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident.

Should be interesting to see.

I agree.

Please keep this thread in mind and keep us up to date on this one.

Any solid correlation provided would be excellent news.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Alright, so I took a look at some of this.
Turns out, the BLS Jobs Report actually does publish the raw numbers, sort of. The data referred to is in Table A-7 each month. The A-series of Tables are from the survey which is performed by Census, but the census population figures each month are not correlated, not aligned with this A-7 data.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

The Census (Dept of Commerce) does not seem to actually publish or report the data. But they do compile the surveys and data, provided to BLS - yet also provide BLS with Population data which they refuse to correct/align until January. And then BLS publishes this data provided by Census.

I have not used, watched, or kept track of these figures - because they do not directly control the numbers used to relate Unemployment.
I think I'll try to list some of this data, but due to BLS revisions, I won't be able to ensure continuity of data. The Unemployment data I post and update is from was is initially published, and not retroactively revised, changed, altered. But the available data now will obviously be whatever BLS has archived.

Table B-1 gives Total nonfarm employees, Private, Government, Federal Government, State Government, Local Government.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Legend:
1st data column is Civilian Population.
2nd is Labor Force.
3rd is Foreign Born Population.
4th is the increase since same month last year.
5th is the increase since January.
6th is the count below the preceding peak count.
7th is Foreign Born Labor Force.
8th is LF increase since January.
9th is LF drop since the preceding peak count.
10th is Foreign Born Employed.
11th is Foreign Born Unemployed.
12th is Total nonfarm employees, of the total employed Labor Force.
13th is Government Employees. Then are Federal, State, and Local..




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Mo/Yr CivPop LbrFrc FBPop >LYr > Jan < Pk FB LF > Jan < Pk FBEmp Unem | Ttl nf Govrn Fed State Local
Jan98 204238 135951
Jan99 206719 137943
Jan00 208782 139621
Jan01 210889 141049
Jan02 213089 141074

Jan02 216506 143228
Jan03 219897 145301
Jan04 222161 146068
Jan05 224837 147125
Jan06 227553 149090
Jan07 230650 151924
Jan08 232616 152828
Jan09 234739 153445
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166

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Sunday, June 7, 2026 1:01 PM


Updating with yesterday's Jobs Report:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Interesting.

The Employment Situation report, which gives the unemployment rate, gets it's population data from Census.
On the first friday of July, I wonder if this correction will show up.

Normally almost 200K additional people are added per month, and 1.5-2.5 million per year.

Correction of 1 million for the last 6 months should be evident.

Should be interesting to see.

I agree.

Please keep this thread in mind and keep us up to date on this one.

Any solid correlation provided would be excellent news.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Alright, so I took a look at some of this.
Turns out, the BLS Jobs Report actually does publish the raw numbers, sort of. The data referred to is in Table A-7 each month. The A-series of Tables are from the survey which is performed by Census, but the census population figures each month are not correlated, not aligned with this A-7 data.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

The Census (Dept of Commerce) does not seem to actually publish or report the data. But they do compile the surveys and data, provided to BLS - yet also provide BLS with Population data which they refuse to correct/align until January. And then BLS publishes this data provided by Census.

I have not used, watched, or kept track of these figures - because they do not directly control the numbers used to relate Unemployment.
I think I'll try to list some of this data, but due to BLS revisions, I won't be able to ensure continuity of data. The Unemployment data I post and update is from was is initially published, and not retroactively revised, changed, altered. But the available data now will obviously be whatever BLS has archived.

Table B-1 gives Total nonfarm employees, Private, Government, Federal Government, State Government, Local Government.

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I will use only the Unadjusted numbers, to help maintain clarity and transparency.

Legend:
1st data column is Civilian Population.
2nd is Labor Force.
3rd is Foreign Born Population.
4th is the increase since same month last year.
5th is the increase since January.
6th is the count below the preceding peak count.
7th is Foreign Born Labor Force.
8th is LF increase since January.
9th is LF drop since the preceding peak count.
10th is Foreign Born Employed.
11th is Foreign Born Unemployed.
12th is Total nonfarm employees, of the total employed Labor Force.
13th is Government Employees. Then are Federal, State, and Local..




Mo/Yr Unemp Pcnt WAJb Pcnt SubTtl Pcnt InvPT Pcnt Total Prcnt CivPop LbrFrc Prtc% U-6
Mo/Yr CivPop LbrFrc FBPop >LYr > Jan < Pk FB LF > Jan < Pk FBEmp Unem | Ttl nf Govrn Fed State Local
Jan98 204238 135951
Jan99 206719 137943
Jan00 208782 139621
Jan01 210889 141049
Jan02 213089 141074

Jan02 216506 143228
Jan03 219897 145301
Jan04 222161 146068
Jan05 224837 147125
Jan06 227553 149090
Jan07 230650 151924
Jan08 232616 152828
Jan09 234739 153445
Jan10 16147 10.6% 6108 4.0% 22255 14.6% 9161 5.9% 31416 20.5% 236832 152957
Jan11 14937 09.8% 6643 4.3% 21580 14.1% 9027 6.0% 30607 20.1% 238704 152536
Jan12 13541 08.8% 6495 4.3% 20036 13.1% 8747 5.7% 28783 18.8% 242269 153485
Jan13 13181 08.5% 6781 4.4% 19962 12.9% 8506 5.5% 28468 18.4% 244663 154794
Jan14 10855 07.0% 6508 4.2% 17363 11.2% 7617 5.0% 24980 16.2% 246915 154381
Jan15 09498 06.1% 6467 4.1% 15965 10.2% 7125 4.6% 23090 14.8% 249723 156050
Jan16 08309 05.3% 6166 3

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Sunday, June 7, 2026 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I just noticed today - 4 Jun 2026 - that although Foreign Born population shows a slight increase since a year ago, the gender breakdown is wider. FB men are almost 1 million less than a year ago, but FB women are about 1 million more than a year ago. I have not heard this discussed or mengtioned before.




My problem is that within about 10 or 20 million, I don't trust any numbers they give us on anything.

Nobody to this day can tell us how many illegals we've got living in this country still. The variance is at least 20 million on the fringes, depending on who you're asking.

A difference of 1 million men or women doesn't mean anything to me.

To me, all those numbers are just guesses. I guess we have this many. Maybe. Who knows?

I'll bet somebody does. But they either aren't going to tell us, or they already have but who do you believe when so many people will give you different numbers on illegals?


I'm a numbers guy. Usually I would be interested in things like this. But our Government on both sides have failed us so long and have not delivered legitimate numbers. I thought Trump might fix it, but he decided he wanted to fuck around in Iran for 3+ months and totally forgot about what it was he was supposed to be doing right now.



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