Wasting Away in Wind-and-Solarville
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Sunday, May 18, 2025 13:13
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I think I'm getting warmer....
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Saying eagles, specifically, is probably hyperbole.
But the turbines do kill a lot of birds, and they do have temporary shutdowns because of bird deaths. My brother works in the industry and he told me this 5 or 6 years ago. I'm sure there's information online about it.
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I didn't know what the hell he was talking about with the whole "fumes" thing, but that seems to be Trump just dumbing it down.Quote:
With the construction phase largely to blame, wind turbines emit slightly more particulate matter (PM), a form of air pollution, at an "exception" rate higher per unit of energy generated(kWh) than a fossil gas electricity station("NGCC"),[31][32] and also emit more heavy metals and PM than nuclear stations, per unit of energy generated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_wind_power
So yeah, as of right now because of the construction phase, turbines emit more particulate matter than fossil fuels as well as more particulate matter and heavy metals than nuclear station for the energy they output.
I'll be honest though. He seems to be downplaying any long term gains for the environment while only focusing on the negative effects of the initial startup costs to the environment.
I would like to know more about this.
It would be nice if the media focused on the actual issues that matter rather than going for the clickbait bullshit headlines with words like "abject horror" and other such nonsense. But if they just presented the facts instead of highly editorialized rage bait they'd go out of business.
Also, in the same link, you'll see the following regarding birds:Quote:
Sovacool estimated that in the United States wind turbines kill between 20,000 and 573,000 birds per year, and has stated he regards either figure as minimal compared to bird deaths from other causes. He uses the lower 20,000 figure in his study and table (see Causes of avian mortality table) to arrive at a direct mortality rate per unit of energy generated figure of 0.269 per GWh for wind power. Fossil-fueled power plants, which wind turbines generally require to make up for their weather dependent intermittency, kill almost 20 times as many birds per gigawatt hour (GWh) of electricity according to Sovacool. Bird deaths due to other human activities and cats total between 797 million and 5.29 billion per year in the U.S. Additionally, while many studies concentrate on the analysis of bird deaths, few have been conducted on the reductions of bird births, which are the additional consequences of the various pollution sources that wind power partially mitigates.[69]
It's more a PETA talking point than anything else, as it seems pretty negligible. Seems that PETA is white knighting for the birds killed in wind turbines while they're killing millions of stray dogs every year.
If anybody has any stories about bald eagles specifically I'd like to see it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix, Trump must ban house cats and even houses because those two kill more birds than wind turbines do.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I think I'm getting warmer....
How many birds are killed by wind turbines? between 140,000 and 679,000
How many birds are killed by glass windows each year in USA? 1,000,000,000
How many birds are killed by kitty cats? 2,400,000,000
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+many+birds+are+killed+by+wind+turb
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+birds+are+killed+by+windows+e
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+birds+are+killed+by+cats
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, Trump must ban house cats and even houses because those two kill more birds than wind turbines do.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I think I'm getting warmer....
Why ban them. We'll just ship them to Ohio and feed your Hatians.
I don't give one single fuck about the birds, dude. You are such a stupid person it's impossible to have any dialogue with you on any topic.
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Someone did figure out if they put big eyes on the bladed wind turbines that it did reduce bird deaths.
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Here is a company that makes bladeless wind turbines
https://vortexbladeless.com/
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