Cinema

Sinners

POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 3, 2025 23:23
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Friday, May 30, 2025 6:59 AM

My old man used to take me and my bros to the $1 theater every weekend to see a movie. We sneaked in drinks and snacks every time we went.

By the time I was 19, my buddies and I were sneaking in beers and drinking them during the movie.

No biggie.

And besides... you think the ushers really give a crap in 2025? Doubtful.




Was funny the one time one of my idiot friends brought glass bottles with him instead of cans. And instead of putting them in a bag or back in his pockets when he was done, he was just putting them down on the floor. The movie ended and he got up and kicked one over and you just heard it roll to the front of the theater from the back, and you heard that glass clank and bounce off every chair leg on the way down.

I said, let's get the F out of here before you idiots get me arrested.



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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Friday, May 30, 2025 7:50 PM

and speaking of people looking for entertainment and booze ...it seems Delroy Lindo plays some boozed up alcoholic music guy Delta Slim

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Saturday, May 31, 2025 3:01 PM

Warner Bros and the business of Hollywood

Sinners 2 is already in the works
https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/sinners-2-is-already-in-the-wo
rks

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Sunday, June 1, 2025 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Warner Bros and the business of Hollywood

Sinners 2 is already in the works
https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/sinners-2-is-already-in-the-wo
rks



Understandable.

But you better cut that budget if you want to make money. The success to a sequel will be quite muted compared to this one unless you make something really flipping fantastic. And having not seen the movie, have you even left yourself open for a sequel that would even make sense or that anybody would care to watch in the first place?

And don't ever go into it thinking you're ever going to replicate a 2nd weekend increase in gross sales like you did the first one because that was lightning in a bottle.

Make your sequel, but make it for $30 Million or less or expect to lose money. Big-budget horror movies tend to be huge money pits.

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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 4:34 PM

still going strong , it seems to have good staying power

it is slowing down Friday, Saturday, Sunday

$1,560,327 /
$2,160,245
$1,550,416

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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

This article is well worth a read, so decide if you want to see the movie or not and read the article when it's appropriate.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/sinners-film-
review



It sounds to me like maybe somebody figured out how to make one hell of a movie that has race inside of it but doesn't obsess over moralizing and preaching from a false platform and just tells a great story.

What spoilers are in the article? A highly political message:

“Everybody has asked the question, what should we do with the Negro?” Frederick Douglass thundered in a speech in 1865. “I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall. … And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs!”

Smoke and Stack couldn’t have said it better themselves. And, like too many Black Americans, they learn the hard way just what happens when the do-gooders, unchecked and unopposed, are allowed to do what they believe is good. We, sadly, have seen this grim scenario play out in reality, more disturbing than anything a scary movie could ever evoke. We know, for example, that while the United States in 1932 was hardly heaven for its Black citizens, two out of three Black children nationwide back then were living in households with both of their parents. Today, nearly a century of aggressive progressive legislation later, the number has plummeted to about a quarter. We also know that every census from 1890 to 1940 marked the marriage rate among Blacks as significantly higher than among whites; by 2021, only 31.2 percent of the Black population was married, compared with 53.9 percent of whites.

The Black family wasn’t decimated by the Hogwoods of this world, rank racists determined to preserve their systems of oppression. It was annihilated by rejecting Frederick Douglass’ wise counsel and replacing pride, particularism, and the joys of tribal loyalties with the gauzy promise of universal, cosmopolitan liberalism and its miracle cures, which have turned out to be poison. It’s not for nothing that the moral backbone of Coogler’s film is Smoke’s wife, Annie, a healer who still remembers how to brew the old world’s traditional remedies out of roots and leaves. She’s the first one to understand that there’s nothing more deadly to the soul than allowing yourself to be bitten by those who want us all to become one indistinguishable horde, all thinking and acting and sounding alike.

This may be why Coogler chose the vampire genre as his vehicle to tell this story. Vampires, as any horror fan could tell you, can’t just walk into your house; they have to be invited in, and much of the fun in Sinners involves the ghouls thinking up clever ways to convince the humans inside the club to have some heart and open wide the door. The message couldn’t be clearer: If you don’t give in to their bullshit, they can’t hurt you, at which point all you have to do is know that dawn will soon come again, destroying the foul creatures once and for all.

Which makes Sinners, alas, required viewing for American Jews. We, too, have fought for the privilege of standing on our own legs, only to sit right back down, invite the vampires in, and let them suck the spirit out of us and replace it with a smile and some platitudes about tikkun olam. And now, as it was for Smoke and Stack and everyone else holed up in the mill with guns and torches and wooden stakes, hoping to make it through the night, it’s time for us, too, to fight back.

Tikkun Olam, a central Jewish concept, translates to "repairing the world." It encompasses a wide range of actions aimed at improving and making th

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Tuesday, June 3, 2025 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

This article is well worth a read, so decide if you want to see the movie or not and read the article when it's appropriate.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/sinners-film-
review



It sounds to me like maybe somebody figured out how to make one hell of a movie that has race inside of it but doesn't obsess over moralizing and preaching from a false platform and just tells a great story.

What spoilers are in the article? A highly political message:

“Everybody has asked the question, what should we do with the Negro?” Frederick Douglass thundered in a speech in 1865. “I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall. … And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs!”

Smoke and Stack couldn’t have said it better themselves. And, like too many Black Americans, they learn the hard way just what happens when the do-gooders, unchecked and unopposed, are allowed to do what they believe is good. We, sadly, have seen this grim scenario play out in reality, more disturbing than anything a scary movie could ever evoke. We know, for example, that while the United States in 1932 was hardly heaven for its Black citizens, two out of three Black children nationwide back then were living in households with both of their parents. Today, nearly a century of aggressive progressive legislation later, the number has plummeted to about a quarter. We also know that every census from 1890 to 1940 marked the marriage rate among Blacks as significantly higher than among whites; by 2021, only 31.2 percent of the Black population was married, compared with 53.9 percent of whites.

The Black family wasn’t decimated by the Hogwoods of this world, rank racists determined to preserve their systems of oppression. It was annihilated by rejecting Frederick Douglass’ wise counsel and replacing pride, particularism, and the joys of tribal loyalties with the gauzy promise of universal, cosmopolitan liberalism and its miracle cures, which have turned out to be poison. It’s not for nothing that the moral backbone of Coogler’s film is Smoke’s wife, Annie, a healer who still remembers how to brew the old world’s traditional remedies out of roots and leaves. She’s the first one to understand that there’s nothing more deadly to the soul than allowing yourself to be bitten by those who want us all to become one indistinguishable horde, all thinking and acting and sounding alike.

This may be why Coogler chose the vampire genre as his vehicle to tell this story. Vampires, as any horror fan could tell you, can’t just walk into your house; they have to be invited in, and much of the fun in Sinners involves the ghouls thinking up clever ways to convince the humans inside the club to have some heart and open wide the door. The message couldn’t be clearer: If you don’t give in to their bullshit, they can’t hurt you, at which point all you have to do is know that dawn will soon come again, destroying the foul creatures once and for all.

Which makes Sinners, alas, required viewing for American Jews. We, too, have fought for the privilege of standing on our own legs, only to sit right back down, invite the vampires in, and let them suck the spirit out of us and replace it with a smile and some platitudes about tikkun olam. And now, as it was for Smoke and Stack and everyone else holed up in the mill with guns and torches and wooden stakes, hoping to make it through the night, it’s time for us, too, to fight back.

Tikkun Olam, a central Jewish concept, translates to "repairing the world." It encompasses a wide range of

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