Tasting Your Own Medicine Dept: Terrorists Are Terrorized In Middle East
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Friday, November 29, 2024 21:53
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Today, which is tomorrow, 8 October in Israel, marks the 1 year Anniversary of the Terrorist Hezbollah Terrorist onset of bombing civilians across Israel, including schools.
More than 10,000 in the past year.
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Maybe if Lebanon is freed from their Terrorist captors smothering them, now Lebanese activists can stop whining about USA repeatedly trying to free Lebanon from the Terrorists.
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JSF, did you take your stupid pills today?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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JAYNZE, I scanned thru your post rather quickly.
Couple thoughts to toss into the mix.
I think there are two separate but related problems. The first is how do you suppress Islamic extremism in your own nation, and the other is how do you suppress it internationally?
I think the biggest source of the problem is and always has been Saudi Arabia and wahhabism.
But some of what you think of as a religious problem is a cultural and poverty problem.
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How was climate change turned into such a big panic for some?
How did LGBTQX become such a big issue?
How did nationalism become such a dirty word?
Why did the idea of having a family and children fall apart?
We're being manipulated every time there's communication, with our families, our neighbors, school, the media (advertising. news. entertainment) many of our emotional responses have been programmed into us.
Cultures, religions, societies have ways of enforcing and reinforcing their message, and there's always someone who benefits more from "the way things are" than from change. They will be the ones resisting change.
Also, impoverished cultures tend to be afraid of change. They don't have the luxury of "fixing" what isn't broken, and then having a REAL problem on their hands.
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So, trying to put this together:
Start them young. I remember reading about the dangers of wahhabism, with Saudi Arabia's putting its considerable wealth behind funding madrassas all around the ME and N Africa, teaching the most intolerant form of Islam along with reading and writing in Arabic. That was 55 YEARS AGO. The article made a reasonable point that the USA should enter a "education race", kind of like an arms race, and fund schools across the region to provide an alternate source of education. Probably sounded too soft a policy at the time.
Don't pack too much overt cultural shift into the lessons, but rather than teaching rote memorization, reward creativity, asking questions, and individualism.
For Muslim populations, teach girls separately from boys. Not only is it religiously and culturally appropriate, the girls won't be intimidated from learning.
Teach the girls useful life skills at whatever level of economic and personal development they happen to be at. Reading, writing, arithmetic. Basic health care, nutrition, a bit about mechanics, running a business. Driving a car. People value practical knowledge.
Punish behavior you don't want to see. In many of the no-go zones in Europe, young men terrorize their families and communities. Lock them up, or send them back to their homeland. Isolate or deport extremist religious leaders. Whatever you do, don't kill them. That'll make them martyrs.
Reward education of both men and women with jobs commensurate with their skills.
A feeling of "belonging" and lack of apparent options can keep people stuck in stultifying situations. Sometimes people need to be exposed to the wider world or conditioned to more individualism.
Saturation ads, television, internet, presenting the non-Muslim life as preferable. This would work better for women than men, because the Muslim life probably gives males a preferable lifestyle.
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I'll have to give some more thought on how we are all being manipulated tobsee how that can be applied to Muslim extremism. Rewatching "A Century of Self" might spark a few more thoughts.
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Quote:Are you saying you are an October 7th Denier?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JSF, did you take your stupid pills today?
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You deny that Jews and Israelis were murdered, raped, executed, tortured, kidnapped by Hamas Terrorists on October 7, 2023 - during The Cease Fire Hamas had demanded and agreed to?
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Quote:And you took your stupid pills today too, I see
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Are you saying you are an October 7th Denier?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JSF, did you take your stupid pills today?
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
You deny that Jews and Israelis were murdered, raped, executed, tortured, kidnapped by Hamas Terrorists on October 7, 2023 - during The Cease Fire Hamas had demanded and agreed to?
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So here are a bunch of critical distinctions
Israel is not the USA. "Their" victory isn't "our" victory. "Their" security isn't"our" security. Two. Separate. Things.
Israel is not a democracy.
Israel is like Saudi Arabia: a religious state. Non Jews are discriminated against.
Islam is not Wahhabism.
Hamas is not Hezbollah.
Hezbollah was not involved in Oct 7.
Hezbollah is not Lebanon. It has some support in Lebanon, but not universal.
Lebanon is not in a civil war. It is being invaded.
Iran is not Hamas.
Iran is not Hezbollah.
Iran is not Saudi Arabia.
Hezbollah does not lay claim to Israeli land.
Palestinians aren't Hamas. (Bears repeating)
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I know these distinctions are all so confusing!
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Sigs is just so confused. It can be confusing to keep track of so many lies - which lies you are telling yourself, which lies you are telling others, which lies are in vogue today, which lies have fallen from favor, which lies have been blatently exposed.
So she has made a list, itemizing her current confusions.
This quote will help preserve them, to reference for when she changes them, yet again.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So here are a bunch of critical distinctions
Israel is not the USA. "Their" victory isn't "our" victory. "Their" security isn't"our" security. Two. Separate. Things.
Israel is not a democracy.
Israel is like Saudi Arabia: a religious state. Non Jews are discriminated against.
Islam is not Wahhabism.
Hamas is not Hezbollah.
Hezbollah was not involved in Oct 7.
Hezbollah is not Lebanon. It has some support in Lebanon, but not universal.
Lebanon is not in a civil war. It is being invaded.
Iran is not Hamas.
Iran is not Hezbollah.
Iran is not Saudi Arabia.
Hezbollah does not lay claim to Israeli land.
Palestinians aren't Hamas. (Bears repeating)
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I know these distinctions are all so confusing!
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Side note:
I have been, lately, differentiating some of the Terrorists in Gaza.
The Hamas Terrorists of Gaza who identify as Hamas are part of the Hamas Terrorists.
The Gaza Terrorists of Gaza who identify as Gazan are the Gaza Terrorists, even when working for and performing Terrorism for Hamas Terrorists.
The Palestine Terrorists of Gaza who identify as Palestine are the Palestine Terrorists, even when working for or performing Terrorism for Hamas Terrorists.
Not sure which of these Terrorist groups are non-Muslim.
The United Nations Terrorists of Gaza seem to be merely part of those 3 Terrorist groups, not their own separate Terrorist group.
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