The Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga Failure Thread (Edited title on 05-24 with failure prediction)
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 23:57
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Quote:6ix, you'd never succeed in business because you are stupid. I will try one more time to get an idea into your thick skull:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Contradict yourself much?
You look like more of an ass every time you post in the Cinema board.
There is a movie called Hit Man (2024) with a Worldwide Box Office $985,334
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Hit-Man-(2024)#tab=summary
Why did Hit Man make only $985,334? Because it will be on Netflix tomorrow.
Not because Biden is President did it go on Netflix but because Writer/Director/Producer Richard Linklater made the deal. Linklater has been making movies for decades and he knows that Netflix is where the money is, not at local theaters.
If we lived in another time, Hit Man might have become a surprise summer box office success. As it stands, though, it will join the many other films in the Netflix algorithm. Here’s hoping it doesn’t get buried in the churn; the quality of this latest Linklater film deserves more than that.
https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/entertainment/linklater-hit-man-mov
ie-review/
6ix, I doubt you understand anything about anything, especially making money in the movie business, because you are so goddamn stupid, not even smart enough to sense you know nothing, much like blowhard Trump.
By the way, Trump is going to jail and his angry poor white trash Trumptards are going to hell with him when he fails to take over the US. 6ix, your life is a disappointment to your divorced parents because you are lazy, stupid, and crazy.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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The box office was doing great last year compared to 2024.
The release date for movies to streaming did not change between 2023 and 2024.
Maybe for the fourth time in a row you can explain that instead of throwing out insults.
I'll keep this message short as to not trigger your ADHD.
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Quote:The correct answer is obvious, but you do have to make a choice. Inevitably, some people choose the worst option because they are stupid. Theater owners' prosperity and Trump depend on the stupidity of entertainment consumers:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
On one hand, you can pay $10.25 (or $7.50 for seniors) to see Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga at Baytown, Jun 7, 9:50 pm. No outside food or drink is permitted because, you know, they want another $10.25 for snacks and drinks.
https://www.showbizcinemas.com/film-info/baytown/furiosa-a-mad-max-sag
a/
On the other hand, pay nothing to see Furiosa when it is streaming. Can't wait? You can pay nothing today to see 24 hours of Sweet Tooth, post-apocalypse entertainment set in a cold land rather than the heat of Australia as is Furiosa.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/sweet_tooth
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/furiosa_a_mad_max_saga
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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There's no sense trying to reason with a cultist.
Why don't you just go back into the RWED forum to argue. I've grown bored with you and your stolen opinions.
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its over!?
some hoped for a 50.5 million opening in Chinese to save it like one of those Titanic or Godzillia films
'$3.6M debut in China.'
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32293-furiosa-a-mad-max-saga/
that's a disaster
other markets the French, the British, Japan, Germany, South Korea, Australia
...not Russia (under sanctions?)
twitter aka X
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1799834393768525972
Budget $168 million
https://web.archive.org/web/20240514234354/https://deadline.com/video/
anya-taylor-joy-reveals-why-she-felt-so-alone-while-making-furiosa-cannes-studio/
‘Bad Boys: Ride Or Die’ Speeds To $105M Global Opening; ‘Garfield’ Nears $200M WW – International Box Office
https://deadline.com/2024/06/bad-boys-ride-or-die-furiosa-garfield-glo
bal-international-box-office-1235963412/
Of the 60 markets released this session, the UK leads with $4.9M (+ 31% over Furiosa). Mexico was next with $4.2M, followed by Germany at $3.7M (2.5x Furiosa and 77% over Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes) and Saudi Arabia also at $3.7M (the first ever Hollywood premiere in Riyadh having paid dividends). Rounding out the Top 5, France collared $3.1M (+28% vs. Furiosa). Markets still to release include Italy, Japan and China later this month.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.
'Barbie' was last year but
They still have a new Batman movie? or Harry Potter or Matrix, Twister or something??
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.
'Barbie' was last year but
They still have a new Batman movie? or Harry Potter or Matrix, Twister or something??
A new Batman movie isn't slated until October of 2026 according to The-Numbers.
I don't see anything about Harry Potter or the Matrix in the release schedule.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/release-schedule
Twisters is coming out on July 19th, but I've already predicted that one at a big failure with it's $200 Million budget. That's also a Universal movie, so that won't be Warner Bros.' loss.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (June 2nd):
Turns out Bruce knows international numbers before he puts them up on his site. At least for some movies. He says in his projections article today that Furiosa has made $64.7 Million internationally so far. This is not surprising as it fits in perfectly with a trend where a movie doubles its international take on the 2nd weekend because it has 4 week days added to it, and Internationals on opening weekend were $32.5 Million.
Furiosa's worldwide total after 2 weekends is $114.37 Million.
It needs $420 Million to break even.
We're still only at 68% of the Production Budget 10 days into the run.
This one might be losing Warner Bros. something on the level of what Argylle lost for Universal earlier this year, relative to their respective budgets.
Furiosa slips to 6th place on weekend 3, with back-to-back 60% drops.
https://www.the-numbers.com/weekend-box-office-chart
International total now sits at $85.7 Million, which means an additional $21 Million from last week.
Worldwide Total now stands at $144.38 Million, which means that it's only gained $9 Million in the US over the last week.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (May 26th):
Oh yeah... This is also a worse opening weekend than both Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire ($61 Million) or The Fall Guy ($64.4 Million), even though it cost $68 Million more to make than Ghostbusters and $43 Million more than The Fall Guy.
Ghostbusters looks like it will eek out that $200 Million box office with $199.6 Million after 66 days in theaters. The Fall Guy at only $144 Million in 26 days has a long way to go to even hit that number.
Will Mad Max even hit $200 Million? Probably not.
Best case scenario now would be 40% drops from week to week.
Weekend 4: $162,380,000 (+18 Million)
Weekend 5: $173,180,000 (+10.8 Million) [5 weekends to break even on budget]
Weekend 6: $179,660,000 (+6.48 Million)
At this point, I'm sure WB will be releasing it on streaming, even though it will probably stay in theaters a while longer to make a few more bucks with the slow summer box office of 2024.
I believe the above numbers are a high prediction, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt at only -40% losses week-to-week from here on out, despite the -60% losses they've experienced up until this point.
Even if Furiosa gets 9 weeks in theaters, it's got about a zero percent probability of grossing $200 Million worldwide now. It would take some unprecedented act-of-god word-of-mouth event for that to ever happen at this point.
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Why ‘Furiosa’ Wasn’t a Box Office Blockbuster, Explained
Movies Like Furiosa Were Never Meant to Save Hollywood
By Bilge Ebiri | May 29, 2024
https://www.vulture.com/article/movies-like-furiosa-were-never-meant-t
o-save-hollywood.html
I didn’t have any hair left to pull out over the supposed failure of Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga at the box office this past weekend because I’d already pulled all of it out over the supposed failure of The Fall Guy several weeks ago. Summer hasn’t even started yet, and already Hollywood is calling it the Summer of Woe with big releases underperforming wildly.
Honestly, most of us shouldn’t care. The important thing about Furiosa is that it exists, mad and uncompromising. So what if it flopped? So did Fight Club, and Speed Racer, and The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen, and It’s a Wonderful Life — movies that didn’t make anybody any real money at first but that made the world of cinema a richer place.
But the noise is inescapable nowadays. With each new disappointment, voices emerge out of the woodwork claiming to know why the movies are failing: Some are convinced that the films aren’t good enough, others that the marketers screwed it all up, or the original properties weren’t that popular in the first place, or tickets are too expensive, or everybody’s still afraid of getting sick. Everybody has an idea, but nobody has a clue.
In truth, whenever you’re talking about individual decisions made (or not made) by millions of people, the reasons will vary greatly. This time last year, everybody was pronouncing the death of superhero movies and the sad end of the long reign of Disney and Pixar. Now the only movies this summer that seem to be guaranteed successes are Deadpool v. Wolverine and Inside/Out 2.
But Hollywood is in the midst of a transition, whether it realizes it or not. Ironically, it’s a transition that many of us have wanted for some time: Fewer gigantic productions that need massive opening weekends to justify their humongous costs; more solid films that can turn a profit over a few weeks and months thanks to good word of mouth. The smash-and-grab opening-weekend strategy was never going to be sustainable, and the industry had become alarmingly reliant on an increasingly small handful of titles saving their bottom lines. It was just a matter of time before enough of these failed to perform, sending the industry into an existential tailspin. COVID, production delays, strikes, and things like franchise fatigue have all contributed to these current doldrums.
The system currently in place still relies on massive opening weekends. The calendar remains built around tentpoles, regardless of whether those movies should be considered tentpoles in the first place. (As many have noted, Mad Max: Fury Road was itself not a gargantuan hit. It was that pesky creature Hollywood doesn’t quite know what to do with: a beloved work of art that did okay business.) Large releases get out of one another’s way so that they can each have their big weekends. Promotion and advertising are thoroughly focused on the first weekend, and they largely drop out soon thereafter. If a movie opens below expectations, people like us write about it, thus continuing to propagate the idea that opening weekend is all that matters.
Amid the hubbub, there is one small truth few people have paid attention to. In the weeks following its soft opening, The Fall Guy posted an admirable box-office hold. It dropped 50 percent in its second weekend, which is pretty great in our current, opening-weekend-focused era, especially considering that the film lost almost all its pricier premium screens (IMAX, RPX, 4DX, etc.) to Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Furiosa, a very good movie well liked by the people who did bother to see it, might do something similar. Will those numbers be enough to make back its large price tag, including marketing? No, probably not. Will any of these films leg out over several months to qualify themselves as genuine hits? No, probably not. Because they were released int
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With a disastrous summer box office, Hollywood reaps what it sowed
Hollywood gets the crummy summer box office it paid for - Los Angeles Times
By Ryan Faughnder | June 4, 2024
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/newsletter/2024-06
-04/wide-shot-june-4-edition-the-wide-shot
A Hollywood movie can be two things at the same time. It can be a great piece of art and also a poor business decision. It often takes years to find out if the first designation applies. With the second, people know right away, for the most part.
“Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga” is a commercial bomb. There’s no way around it. The prequel opened to a disappointing $32 million during the long Memorial Day weekend. In its second go-around, it dropped 59%, coming in third place behind Sony Pictures’ animated “The Garfield Movie” and Paramount Pictures’ John Krasinski-directed hybrid “If.”
The George Miller-directed action thriller’s box office tally of $50 million domestic ($114 million worldwide) so far on a $168-million production budget is just plain bad, adding to the summer woes that have the movie exhibition industry in a spiral of existential dread, once again.
The numbers for the theater chains are worrying, overall, with May doing nothing to quell the trepidation that kicked off with the previous month and the sluggishness of “The Fall Guy.”
According to David A. Gross’s FranchiseRe newsletter https://franchisere.substack.com/ — a reliable source of level-headed box office analysis — May domestic grosses were down 43% from the average of the three years before the COVID-19 pandemic. Ticket sales so far this year have fallen nearly 25% from the same period in 2023.
The reasons for the decline are fairly straightforward. I tend to agree with Gross’ perspective: that for a variety of reasons, including production delays induced by last year’s writers’ and actors’ strikes and a general pullback by cost-conscious studios, there haven’t been enough movies, and the films that have been released aren’t hitting in the way they need to be.
The hollowed out release schedule is doing the expected damage. This past weekend had no new releases in the domestic top five. This week, Sony will try to liven things up with “Bad Boys: Ride or Die.”
“Moviegoing thrives on momentum and rhythm: one strong movie after another bringing fans to the multiplex once or more per month,” Gross wrote. “Right now, the schedule is thin, several big releases fell short, and the original stories are not breaking through (with the exception of ‘If’).”
It’s also clear to me that there are broader structural issues at work. The combination of the pandemic theater closures, the six-month production disruption and the age of post-streaming wars austerity has conspired to constrict the supply of studio films in theaters. But there’s also the increasing consumer mind-share taken up by streaming, video games, social media and cheap, free short-form online content.
Add to that the entertainment giants’ self-sabotaging strategy of shortening the theatrical window in a way that has trained at least some viewers to wait at home for anything other than a “Barbenheimer”-level cultural phenomenon. There’s also the fact that consumer motivations have changed in a fundamental way for a number of people. If seeing a movie in theaters doesn’t have any social media cachet, why bother paying a babysitter?
But these issues don’t explain the failure of “Furiosa,” which was fairly predictable. Prequels are a tough sell for audiences. How many prequels have actually succeeded in recent years? Certainly not “Solo: A Star Wars Story.” Paramount will again test the audience’s appetite later this month with “A Quiet Place: Day One,” an extension of its successful horror franchise.
By the way, maybe let’s stop putting “A So-and-So Story and/or Saga” in movie titles for the time being. That formulation doesn’t appear to be enticing people.
Anyway, “Furiosa’s” struggles have inspired think pieces positing that Hollywood has fallen victim to
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That's funny.
I'll bet these same outfits and possibly even the writers themselves were praising this type of behavior from the studios during covid.
They have to. Because it's so obvious to everybody now how bad Hollywood is hurting and they can't lie about it anymore. So they need to blame it on studio policy they once praised, because they're sure as shit not going to admit that it was years of DEI programs and woke agenda programming that is responsible for it. Or how Joe Biden* and Democrats ruined the economy.
No matter. They won't be employed for very much longer now that the free money has run out.
The woke problem has been fixed BECAUSE the money ran out. It's June 11th and you wouldn't even realize it was pride month if you didn't spend a lot of time on the internet. It was absolutely, inescapably in-your-face every minute in the summers of 2020 and 2021, and now not a fuckin' peep out of them this year. Not a single large company supporting pride month in 2024.
Society's healing isn't going to come because Trump gets reelected. Joe Biden* already started that healing process when he doomed the economy with his administration's terrible stewardship.
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