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State of the Nation - Hungary

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Tuesday, February 21, 2023 2:28 AM

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“State of the Nation” address, February 2023

Reading Time: 21 minutes

Good afternoon.

Former Presidents Áder and Schmitt and your Dear Wives, Mister Speaker, Leaders of Hungarian communities from beyond our borders, Ladies and Gentlemen,

As you are certainly aware, around two weeks ago a devastating earthquake shook Türkiye and Syria. The death toll is now over 44,000, and sadly this is not yet the end. Sorrows come suddenly, without warning, without knocking on the door, but simply smashing it open on us. In our sorrow, we find out who we can count on. We Hungarians can be counted on: 167 of our compatriots took part in the rescue work, and thirty-five people were rescued from the rubble by experts and volunteers who risked their lives in the process. Some of them are here with us now; let us salute our heroes, who have honoured us with their presence here. Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for your sacrifice, a country is proud of you! Please stand up and let us see you!

Ladies and Gentlemen,

So much has happened in the past year – an election, the war, an energy crisis, inflation – that in fact I should spend several hours talking about it. Please do not start making for the door: it is too late now,

hahaha! He has a sense of humor!

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if you are here, you are here. Tomorrow, on Sunday, you can rest yourselves after a speech of Atatürk or Fidel Castro proportions. But I will keep it shorter after all, because during a long political speech people lose their zest for life – and we are not here to lose our zest for life, but to renew our zest for life. And with that I have dived headlong into what I have to say. Today the most important question for the future is whether the enormous changes taking place in European life – which are bringing us new intellectual, political, economic and military challenges – will enhance or diminish Hungarians’ zest for life. These changes are putting pressure on the whole of Hungarian life and are confronting us with new questions. The success of the year 2023 will depend on whether we are energised by them or deflated by them.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

As I circulate in international politics, I often think of the old Hungarian song: “Mother, I Didn’t Want That Kind of Horse”. And indeed, we Hungarians did not want to live in such a chaotic world. But, as my mother would say, “Son, life is not a request show.” And she is right.

Everything had been so well thought out: we had cut our way through the piles of rubble left behind by the socialist governments ousted in 2010, through the ruins of Wild-East socialism, through unemployment, through an economy gasping for breath, through foreign currency loans, through disaffected envy, through prostration to the West, through sky-high utility bills, through illicit gratuities in the healthcare system, through cheating the system while living on welfare benefits, and through resigned acceptance of the second-rate. We were just beginning to believe that there would be a place in the sun for every Hungarian, and that such a place would be here. It turned out that it is possible to live better from one’s work than from benefits, that having children is not a burden but a joy – or, to be more precise, a burden that is a joy. We were beginning to believe that life here would be fruitful, that there would be enough for everyone. We came to think that in order to get ahead we do not need to take from one another or take that which belongs to others, because the cake we can bake will be much bigger than any we have seen so far. One million people have been given work, and never before in Hungary have so many people been in work. The Hungarian economy has tripled in size and the minimum wage is now higher than the average wage was under our Socialist predecessors. We have brought forth a national Christian constitution that is worthy of us. We have reorganised the Hungarian state with courage that if not death-defying is at least Brussels-defying. And, brushing off the naysayers, we have built

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Tuesday, February 21, 2023 3:21 AM

Hungary Moves To Protect Farmers From Cheap Ukrainian Grain While EU Does Nothing
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hungary-moves-protect-farmers-c
heap-ukrainian-grain-while-eu-does-nothing


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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

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Saturday, June 15, 2024 10:47 PM

The EU's highest court, the ECJ, has officially found Hungary guilty for not accepting migrants at its border.
It is slamming Hungary with a fine of €1 million EVERY SINGLE DAY. That is €365 MILLION every year.
On top of that, Hungary should pay a base fine of €200 million.

https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1801183690677960704

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Sunday, June 16, 2024 12:20 AM

From related thread

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SIGNY: The above just goes to show how non-democratic the EU really is: the EC (the unelected European Commission adopts some bullshit dictum, like

"You must accept your "fair share" of poor non-EU migrants bc Germany decided it would throw out the welcome mat) and if you resist well will grind you down".

Yanno, I don't understand why Hungary stays in the EU. For those poor unfortunate nations that adopted the Euro... well, the EU has a stranglehold on them. But Hungary wisely kept its own currency, the forint.

Meanwhile, Hungary's Orban goes toe to toe with NATO'S Jens Stoltenberg, and wins.

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Orban Got What He Wanted From NATO & Ensured Hungary's Objective National Interests

Wednesday’s meeting between Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg saw the two leaders reach an agreement on the bloc’s military aid to Ukraine. Hungary won’t oppose NATO’s decisions in this regard like it briefly did the EU’s in exchange for NATO not forcing Hungary to participate in a conventional intervention there, allow its territory to be used to facilitate that, and fund the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Simply put, they agreed to disagree and not interfere in the other’s affairs.

While some observers abroad who are favorable towards Orban might be disappointed by this, they’d do well to reflect on how unrealistic it was for them to imagine that he alone could stop NATO’s plans. The Hungarian leader has become a cult hero among Western dissidents who oppose the bloc’s proxy war on Russia through Ukraine after bravely warning over the past two years about how irresponsible and dangerous this policy is. His strongly worded statements perfectly channeled their views on this issue.

Nevertheless, he’s ultimately just one man in charge of a comparatively small country whose role in this proxy war is overshadowed by nearby Poland’s and neighboring Romania’s. It was therefore impossible for him to throw a wrench in NATO’s plans and all that he could ever hope for at best was to get public guarantees that Hungary wouldn’t be drawn into this imbroglio. That’s precisely what he received on Wednesday, which Stoltenberg gave him in an attempt to improve the bloc’s reputation.

From NATO’s perspective and keeping in mind Hungary’s inability to stop a conventional intervention in Ukraine as well as prevent others from funding the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it made the most sense to leave that wayward member alone in order to deflect from allegations of bullying. Publicly pressuring Hungary to send its troops to Ukraine and let others transit across its territory despite how unpopular these policies are at home could draw negative comparisons between NATO and the Warsaw Pact.

Accordingly, Hungarians might violently rebel against their literal NATO occupiers in that case and could also obstruct the logistical routes upon which this conventional intervention would depend, thus creating many more security, logistical, and image problems than it’s worth. That’s why the choice was made to respect Hungary’s decision to remain outside the ambit of these activities, which is pragmatic and also lends false credence to claims that NATO is a collection of democracies, not liberal dictatorships.




MORE AT https://korybko.substack.com/p/orban-got-what-he-wanted-from-nato

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Hungary's refugee-kicking camerawoman pondering move to Russia..." Sounds like....

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60118

I will try to post into this thread instead. The title is less pejorative.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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Friday, November 1, 2024 4:32 PM

relations gone down since the refugee kicking camera woman event and everyone called Hungarians 'Racists'

and now

Backlash builds over Hungary joining Russia, Syria and Belarus at security summit
https://www.politico.eu/article/european-officials-react-to-hungary-jo
ining-russia-syria-and-belarus-at-security-summit
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