Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, May 1, 2022 7:45 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Putin Isn’t the Only Autocrat Misusing History

The Russian leader’s invasion of Ukraine is founded on a false retelling of history. He’s not the only strongman revising the past.

Katie Stallard writes:

The Russian president is the latest in a long line of dictators to manipulate history and manufacture enemies to rally the population against and secure his own hold on power. Past Soviet leaders have drawn on the same core themes, and I have seen this playbook in action in China and North Korea, where Xi Jinping and Kim Jong Un insist that they too are defending their nations against hostile foreign adversaries.

Yet we must not assume that this autocratic rewriting of history, driven largely by a desire to consolidate power, affects only a dictator’s domestic population (though it does). In fact, these retellings matter far beyond, encompassing expansive territorial ambitions and aggressive foreign policies that threaten neighboring democracies, such as Taiwan, South Korea, Japan—and Ukraine—and whip up nationalist fervor against the United States and its allies.

As Putin is currently demonstrating, these questionable historical narratives in faraway autocracies are a problem for democracies too.

During his “re-education” in Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell’s protagonist, Winston Smith, is asked to repeat the Party’s slogan about the past. “Who controls the past controls the future,” he responds obediently. “Who controls the present controls the past.” Though their individual approaches to controlling that past differ significantly, Putin, Xi, and Kim share an obsession that Orwell would have recognized.

Since he first came to power more than two decades ago, Putin has elevated the memory of the Soviet victory in the Great Patriotic War, as World War II is referred to in Russia, to the status of a national religion and positioned himself as the heir to that legacy, and the tireless defender of Russia and Russians everywhere against their contemporary threats. He calls the Ukrainian leadership “fascists” to remind his compatriots of the enemy they faced, insisting that they are confronting a resurgent menace.

He does not, however, invoke the terror and the strategic blunders that the country’s wartime leader Joseph Stalin committed. Instead, Putin has sealed off the official version of history from scrutiny, passing new laws that make it a criminal offense to challenge the authorities’ account or to question the true scale of Soviet heroism. He has also closed down independent organizations that sought to preserve the memory of Soviet-era atrocities. He is interested in remembering only the aspects of history that serve his current political needs.

Uh huh..

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3472471-bidens-mary-poppins-of-d
isinformation-the-perfect-nanny-to-tidy-up-mess-of-free-speech/

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SIGNYM

Sunday, May 1, 2022 11:52 PM

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SignyM:
Punish Russia today because of.... Stalin????

Why are you hyperventilating about WWII? That's like hyperventilating about Confederate generals, for god's sake! You're just trying to drum up outrage by linking current events to past personalities, as if there was some sort of connection.

Seriously, dood. You pretend to be a realist but you're living in some other world.[
SECOND: The same bad old ideas keep repeating in history.

So, punish Russia because ... bad ideas were acted on in the past?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Monday, May 2, 2022 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, punish Russia because ... bad ideas were acted on in the past?

Signym, you are not trying at all to understand. Maybe this will help: Putin's war creates schism in Russian Orthodox Church

Russian Orthodox leader's support of war divides church

Last weekend, at a special midnight service in a packed church in Udine, in northeast Italy, a priest led his flock of Ukrainian, Russian and Eastern European immigrants through their usual Orthodox Easter traditions. But recently, he's also accompanying them on a much less familiar path, sparked by the war in Ukraine.

In March, this parish decided to split from its mother church in Moscow, joining instead the Istanbul-based Orthodox Church, whose leader has criticized the war – in stark contrast from the head of the Russian Orthodox Church.

"By separating from Moscow," Father Vladymir Melnichuk told "Sunday Morning," "we are adhering to the Christian vision of the world."

There are roughly 100 million Russian Orthodox – the largest church within Orthodox Christianity. Their leader is Patriarch Kirill, who has framed Russia's invasion of Ukraine in holy terms.

In a sermon in early March, Kirill railed against the influences of the Western world – its "excess consumption" and "gay pride parades." He said of the Ukraine war: "We're talking about human salvation."

Andrey Sinitsyn, who is from Moscow, agrees with his parish's split. "Patriarch Kirill is supporting the war, in fact," he said. "Patriarch Kirill got too close to the government."

Correspondent Seth Doane asked, "How is that as a churchgoer, someone who is a believer?"

"It's unacceptable," Sinitsyn replied. "The church should be independent."

Father Cyrill Hovorun was ordained by Kirill, and was his theological advisor until 2012. He said, "I believe that the church is the main supplier of the ideology, Putin's ideology. This war has a simple formula: War equals guns plus ideas, and the guns are, of course, supplied by the Kremlin and the ideas come from the church."

Critics say Kirill has promoted a doctrine in which Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are in fact one nation (a foundation for Putin's attempt to subjugate Ukraine under Moscow's rule) and has called on the public to support the Kremlin against enemies "both external and internal."

And, Father Cyril believes, Putin sees this war as a "sacred operation": "A mission from God to purge the world from, you know, impurity of the Western ideas and Western values."

"You're saying that the church has created the ideological underpinning for the war?" asked Doane.

"Well, actually, when I was working in the Moscow patriarchate, I was witnessing how this ideology was emerging, and I protested against that," he said.

In Soviet times, priests were pushed to keep the spy service informed, and it's widely believed that Kirill was in the KGB. But Father Cyril believes Kirill was never enthusiastic about it, which created friction with Putin. "And that's why we are talking about the marriage of convenience and not marriage by love," Cyril said. "They have to tolerate each other because they use their skills, their charisma and possibly these resources of each other – each for his own end."

Those resources are vast, said another former insider, Sergei Chapnin, who also worked for Kirill: "There are rough estimations that he's definitely a billionaire and, in fact, he's one of Putin's oligarchs – sorry to say that."

"You're calling the patriarch an oligarch?" asked Doane.

"Yeah," Chapnin replied. "He has financial interest in his cooperation with the state, just like other oligarchs."

Chapnin sees Russia's church as a state propaganda machine, spreading Putin's message as

SIGNYM

Monday, May 2, 2022 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, punish Russia because ... bad ideas were acted on in the past?
Signym, you are not trying at all to understand. Maybe this will help: Putin's war creates schism in Russian Orthodox Church

So what?
Are you saying you REALLY care about the Russian Orthodox Church?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Monday, May 2, 2022 1:12 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

So what?
Are you saying you REALLY care about the Russian Orthodox Church?

I'll pretend that you skipped over the article rather than misunderstood a very simple article, but the point was that the church is breaking apart because the Patriarch, who happens to be on Putin's payroll, is promulgating a false ideology. Which ideas? These:

Critics say Kirill has promoted a doctrine in which Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are in fact one nation (a foundation for Putin's attempt to subjugate Ukraine under Moscow's rule) and has called on the public to support the Kremlin against enemies "both external and internal."

And, Father Cyril believes, Putin sees this war as a "sacred operation": "A mission from God to purge the world from, you know, impurity of the Western ideas and Western values."

"You're saying that the church has created the ideological underpinning for the war?" asked Doane.

"Well, actually, when I was working in the Moscow patriarchate, I was witnessing how this ideology was emerging, and I protested against that," he said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, May 2, 2022 1:36 AM

The hypocrisy of the Leftist shows no bounds.

You do know what Biden* is up to, don't you Second?

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Monday, May 2, 2022 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The hypocrisy of the Leftist shows no bounds.

You do know what Biden* is up to, don't you Second?

I think you use the word "hypocrite" to mean somebody doing something you don't like, but whatever you mean, nobody cares.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, those lofty goals Putin keeps talking about? Putin is a hypocrite. His real goals are a giant robbery of Ukraine -- Russians stealing land, stealing food, stealing machinery:

Russians Plundered $5M Farm Vehicles from Ukraine - to Find They've Been Remotely Disabled

Posted by EditorDavid on Sunday May 01, 2022 @01:54PM from the to-Russia-with-love dept.

CNN cites a local source imagining the surprise of the looters of a Ukranian farm equipment dealership who'd transported some heavy machines over 700 miles to Russia. "They realized that they could not even turn them on, because the harvesters were locked remotely."

CNN adds that "The equipment now appears to be languishing at a farm near Grozny."
Over the past few weeks there's been a growing number of reports of Russian troops stealing farm equipment, grain and even building materials — beyond widespread looting of residences. But the removal of valuable agricultural equipment from a John Deere dealership in Melitopol speaks to an increasingly organized operation, one that even uses Russian military transport as part of the heist. CNN has learned that the equipment was removed from an Agrotek dealership in Melitopol, which has been occupied by Russian forces since early March. Altogether it's valued at nearly $5 million. The combine harvesters alone are worth $300,000 each....

The contact said the process began with the seizure of two combine harvesters, a tractor and a seeder. Over the next few weeks, everything else was removed: in all 27 pieces of farm machinery. One of the flat-bed trucks used, and caught on camera, had a white "Z" painted on it and appeared to be a military truck. The contact said there were rival groups of Russian troops: some would come in the morning and some in the evening.

Some of the machinery was taken to a nearby village, but some of it embarked on a long overland journey to Chechnya more than 700 miles away. The sophistication of the machinery, which are equipped with GPS, meant that its travel could be tracked....

The end result? "After a journey of more than 700 miles, the thieves were unable to use any of the equipment — because it had been locked remotely."

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/05/01/1750205/russians-plundered-5m
-farm-vehicles-from-ukraine---to-find-theyve-been-remotely-disabled

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Monday, May 2, 2022 2:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

So what?
Are you saying you REALLY care about the Russian Orthodox Church?
I'll pretend that you skipped over the article rather than misunderstood a very simple article, but the point was that the church is breaking apart because the Patriarch, who happens to be on Putin's payroll, is promulgating a false ideology. Which ideas? These:

Critics say Kirill has promoted a doctrine in which Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are in fact one nation (a foundation for Putin's attempt to subjugate Ukraine under Moscow's rule) and has called on the public to support the Kremlin against enemies "both external and internal."

And, Father Cyril believes, Putin sees this war as a "sacred operation": "A mission from God to purge the world from, you know, impurity of the Western ideas and Western values."

"You're saying that the church has created the ideological underpinning for the war?" asked Doane.

"Well, actually, when I was working in the Moscow patriarchate, I was witnessing how this ideology was emerging, and I protested against that," he said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

And....?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, May 2, 2022 2:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The hypocrisy of the Leftist shows no bounds.

You do know what Biden* is up to, don't you Second?
I think you use the word "hypocrite" to mean somebody doing something you don't like, but whatever you mean, nobody cares.

Nope.

Though it is true that I don't like hypocrites, that is not at all what I mean.

Keep focusing on Biden*'s plan to enrich Raytheon with US taxpayer dollars though while he* simultaneously turns our own government against free speech and Constitutional rights so hard he'll have Emperor Xi asking him for pointers.

You're such a dumb piece of shit dude.

Perfect tool for the Establishment.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Monday, May 2, 2022 5:23 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

And....?

The Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church is on Putin's payroll. Both men deny that, but why would they lie about something this important? That would be sinful! The Patriarch used his direct link to God to get God's blessing to take down Ukraine because it is an "immoral" country run by "Fascists" in God's Divine opinion. God told this to the Patriarch and the Patriarch told the world. Putin is now doing God's work by taking down Ukraine. God sends His Blessings to the Russian Army which will free the Ukrainian land to become Russian real estate, which can be used to pay the Patriarch so that he can prayerfully seek God's Divine opinion on invading other European countries for Putin's profit.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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