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Thursday, January 12, 2023 3:46 PM

The Startling Statistic That Shows Why Russia Is Struggling in Ukraine War

Comparing international military aid for Kyiv since the start of Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine with Russia's annual defense budget shows how Moscow is in a war not just with its neighbour, but also with its NATO allies, the Russian news agency Tass claimed.

The piece, published on Wednesday by the state news outlet, quotes Putin saying "the military potential and capabilities of practically all the main NATO countries are being actively used against Russia."
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/16772611

Meanwhile, Russia's defense minister, Sergei Shoigu, said that Moscow is fighting not so much with the Ukrainian military as with the "collective West," Tass reported in the article, which stated that the annual Russian military budget is $55.5 billion. The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) estimate of Russia's 2021 military budget published in April 2022 is $65.9 billion.

Drawing on calculations based on official statements by donors, as well as media data, Tass portrayed how Russia was at a considerable financial disadvantage on the battlefield.

It estimated that foreign countries and international organizations had given Kyiv assistance worth more than $150.8 billion, including military, humanitarian and financial support.

Here is The Startling Statistic Showing Why Russia Is Struggling in Ukraine War

"Thus, the total amount of Western assistance to Ukraine since the beginning of the special military operation has exceeded its [Russia’s military] budget for 2022 by 2.7 times," it said, using the official Moscow description for the war.
Almost a third of this, $48.5 billion, was in military assistance, it said.

Tass noted how the biggest donor was the U.S., which has so far allocated about $24.2 billion in military aid "both in cash and in the form of various weapons."

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) said on December 16 that between January 24, 2022, and November 20, 2022, the U.S. had pledged $22.9 billion in military assistance. On December 21, President Joe Biden announced a further $1.85 billion in aid, including, for the first time, advanced Patriot air defense missile systems.

Tass noted that Ukraine was benefiting from HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), self-propelled howitzers and RIM-7 Sea Sparrow surface-to-air missiles. The U.S. also provided $23.7 billion in financial and humanitarian assistance, Tass said.

The United Kingdom was the second-biggest donor, according to Tass, which said among its $3.6 billion in military assistance were Starstreak man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems and upgraded Brimstone 2 high-precision missiles.

According to a document published on December 12 by the British government's House of Commons Library, the U.K. has committed £2.3 billion ($2.8 billion) in military assistance to Ukraine and "has made a pledge to match that assistance in 2023."

Tass reported that in third place comes the European Union, which has given $3.28 billion in military aid and pledged $39.96 billion in other types of assistance.

Statista noted in December that EU institutions had given Ukraine $3.1 billion euros ($3.3 billion) in military aid between January 24 and November 20.

Meanwhile, Tass said that "despite Kyiv's numerous complaints about the refusal to supply it with weapons," Germany had approved $2.3 billion in military exports.

It added that Poland had supplied $2 billion worth of military aid to Kyiv and the Czech Republic, $2.1 billion. Statista noted that Berlin had given Kyiv 2.3 billion euros in such assistance, while the Czech Republic's contribution was 480 million euros.

Amid reports that Russia is running low on weapons and ammunition, Moscow and Kremlin-backed state media have repeatedly portrayed the war in Ukraine as a proxy fight between NATO and Russia.

One of Putin's closes

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Thursday, January 12, 2023 5:34 PM

Russia’s Coming Disintegration

The West made a grave mistake when it assumed the collapse of Soviet communism meant the end of Russian imperialism. The rupture of the Russian Federation will be the third phase of imperial collapse after the unravelling of the Soviet bloc and the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.

By Janusz Bugajski, January 12, 2023 4:05 AM CET

Janusz Bugajski is a senior fellow at the Jamestown Foundation. His new book, Failed State - A Guide to Russia's Rupture, has just been published.

We are currently witnessing an unfolding revolution in global security that Western policy makers are clearly unprepared for — the impending collapse of the Russian Federation.

Instead of planning contingencies for external spillovers and capitalizing on Russia’s de-imperialization, Western officials appear to be stuck in a bygone era, believing they can return to the post-Cold War status quo, with some even offering Moscow security guarantees to keep the country intact.

But Russia is a failed state. It’s been unable to transform itself into a nation-state, a civic state or even a stable imperial state. It is a federation in name only, as the central government pursues a policy of ethnic and linguistic homogenization and denies any powers to the country’s 83 republics and regions.

Hyper-centralization has exposed the country’s multiple weaknesses, including a contracting economy squeezed by international sanctions, military defeats in Ukraine that reveal the incompetence and corruption of its ruling elite, and disquiet in numerous regions over their shrinking budgets.

As Moscow turns inward, its capacity for foreign aggression will diminish. And as a rump state, under intense international sanctions and shorn of its resource base in Siberia, it will have severely reduced capabilities to attack neighbors. From the Arctic to the Black Sea, NATO’s eastern front will become more secure; while Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova will regain their occupied territories, and petition for European Union and NATO integration without fear of Russia’s reaction.

More at https://www.politico.eu/article/opinion-russia-benefits-disintegration/

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Friday, January 13, 2023 7:21 AM

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Friday, January 13, 2023 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

After months of fighting, Russia's ministry of defense claims it has captured the eastern Ukrainian town of Soledar.

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian military, Serhiy Cherevaty, says that Russia's statements "do not correspond to reality. Battles are going on in Soledar."

This battle of words is happening right now:

January 13, 2023, 6:51 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/13/1148477147/russia-soledar-ukraine

Maybe by tomorrow, or next week, we'll know what really happened. But whatever happened, Satellite photos show that Soledar is now rubble.

Soledar devastation revealed in satellite images
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64250202

The Russians have proven once again what they are best at doing: reducing Ukraine to rubble. I do hope that Ukraine finally realizes that actually bringing this war to a permanent close will require more than beating the Russian Army. Winning requires destroying Russian real estate value. One example is destroying the Crimea Bridge over the Kerch Strait. Other examples would be destroying Putin's mansions and Russian munition factories.

Crimea’s Kerch Strait Bridge holds deep strategic, and symbolic, value.
President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia presided over the bridge’s opening, personally driving a truck across the link between Russia and Crimea — land seized from Ukraine in 2014.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/world/europe/crimea-kerch-strait-br
idge-explosion-explainer.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, January 13, 2023 7:50 PM

Yanno SECOND, you whined more than once that the USA doesn't know how to fight a war. That figthing a war, to quote Patton, didn' mean dying for your country, it meant making the other SOB die for his country.

Well, apparently Russia DOES know how to fight wars, bc they're fighting a war of attrition.

But that's one of the great things about fighting a war of attrition on a static front:
not too much real estate gets destroyed. As long a Kiev is willing to keep pumping troops and weapons into the Soledar/Bakhmust agglomeration, all the Russia's shells will keep landing in the same spots over and over. Kiev and Kharkiv and other cities will be mostly spared.

I'm sure you;ll find a way to whine about that, too. In reality, your biggest whine is that Russia is winning.



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THG
Friday, January 13, 2023 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yanno SECOND, you whined more than once that the USA doesn't know how to fight a war. That figthing a war, to quote Patton, didn' mean dying for your country, it meant making the other SOB die for his country.

Well, apparently Russia DOES know how to fight wars, bc they're fighting a war of attrition.

But that's one of the great things about fighting a war of attrition on a static front:
not too much real estate gets destroyed. As long a Kiev is willing to keep pumping troops and weapons into the Soledar/Bakhmust agglomeration, all the Russia's shells will keep landing in the same spots over and over. Kiev and Kharkiv and other cities will be mostly spared.

I'm sure you;ll find a way to whine about that, too. In reality, your biggest whine is that Russia is winning.




Rifts in Russian military command seen amid Ukraine fighting
7h ago

The fighting for the salt mining town of Soledar and the nearby city of Bakhmut has highlighted a bitter rift between the Russian Defense Ministry leadership and Yevgeny Prigozhin, a rogue millionaire whose private military force known as the Wagner Group has played an increasingly visible role in Ukraine.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rifts-in-russian-military-command
-seen-amid-ukraine-fighting/ar-AA16iDwB?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3bcd050a27d74c5680db5037dfdc61d8




You keep talking bullshit comrade, it's what you're good at.

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THG
Friday, January 13, 2023 8:29 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

"Ukraine's Year of Victory"?

I don't know what SECOND gets out of posting other people's delusions. Does he think we're going to be delusional with him?

Hey, SECOND, did you know you sound like Hitler in his bunker, or Baghdad Bob?




Ukrainians Strike Back in Soledar Against Infamous Wagner Group Forcing Retreat

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainians-strike-back-in-soledar
-against-infamous-wagner-group-forcing-retreat/ar-AA16givC?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3bcd050a27d74c5680db5037dfdc61d8




T

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Friday, January 13, 2023 8:36 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

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Friday, January 13, 2023 9:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECOND, you whined more than once that the USA doesn't know how to fight a war. That figthing a war, to quote Patton, didn' mean dying for your country, it meant making the other SOB die for his country.

Well, apparently Russia DOES know how to fight wars, bc they're fighting a war of attrition.

But that's one of the great things about fighting a war of attrition on a static front:
not too much real estate gets destroyed. As long a Kiev is willing to keep pumping troops and weapons into the Soledar/Bakhmust agglomeration, all the Russia's shells will keep landing in the same spots over and over. Kiev and Kharkiv and other cities will be mostly spared.

I'm sure you;ll find a way to whine about that, too. In reality, your biggest whine is that Russia is winning.

WWII showed that both Russia and Ukraine are incompetent. How do I know? The death toll:

Russia 26,600,000
Ukraine 6,850,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Soviet_Union

For comparison:
Germany 5,700,000 while fighting on two fronts.
Doesn't look good, except in comparison to Ukraine and the even stupider Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Nazi_Germany

For further comparison
USA 671,801

And that was while fighting two separate wars on opposite sides of the world.

In Ukraine, two idiotic countries, one bigger and dumber than the other, are fighting. It is absolutely no surprise that incompetence rules over these two countries. Who will win? I don't know. Either Dumb or Dumber will be declared the Winner after they beat each other almost to death.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, January 13, 2023 9:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno SECOND, you whined more than once that the USA doesn't know how to fight a war. That figthing a war, to quote Patton, didn' mean dying for your country, it meant making the other SOB die for his country.

Well, apparently Russia DOES know how to fight wars, bc they're fighting a war of attrition.

But that's one of the great things about fighting a war of attrition on a static front:
not too much real estate gets destroyed. As long a Kiev is willing to keep pumping troops and weapons into the Soledar/Bakhmust agglomeration, all the Russia's shells will keep landing in the same spots over and over. Kiev and Kharkiv and other cities will be mostly spared.

I'm sure you;ll find a way to whine about that, too. In reality, your biggest whine is that Russia is winning.

WWII showed that both Russia and Ukraine are incompetent. How do I know? The death toll:

Russia 26,600,000
Ukraine 6,850,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Soviet_Union

For comparison:
Germany 5,700,000 while fighting on two fronts.
Doesn't look good, except in comparison to Ukraine and the even stupider Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#Nazi_Germany

For further comparison
USA 671,801

And that was while fighting two separate wars on opposite sides of the world.

In Ukraine, two idiotic countries, one bigger and dumber than the other, are fighting. It is absolutely no surprise that incompetence rules over these two countries. Who will win? I don't know. Either Dumb or Dumber will be declared the Winner after they beat each other almost to death.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Hey Ted.

Looks like Second doesn't support Ukraine either.



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