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THG
Friday, November 17, 2023 4:35 AM

Biden does it again. Go Joe...

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Top American CEOs dine with Chinese President Xi Jinping in San Francisco

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 2:04 PM

And now for the train-wreck part of the summit: Joe's presser.

Watch Blinken's reaction



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Saturday, November 18, 2023 5:38 PM

We don't clean up the homeless problem for America. We only clean it when Chinese dictators come to visit.

Do Democrats think that Xi doesn't read?

Xi now knows that Americans don't clean up their homeless problem for America. They only clean it up for him.

Or if Superbowl is in town.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 6:13 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
We don't clean up the homeless problem for America. We only clean it when Chinese dictators come to visit.

There is no "we". In any place in America, if the mayor and city council want to do something about homelessness, it gets done. When the mayor and city council are tired of doing something, it gets undone. There is no "we" until the Congress in DC decides that the USA will permanently and dependably continue to provide money to those mayors and city councils who are doing something. But the Republicans in Congress don't want to pay to end homelessness. Until they change, there is no "we".

San Francisco ‘Cleaned Up’ Streets Ahead of APEC. But How and What, Exactly, Did It Do?
https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/14/city-clears-homeless-encampments-ape
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 6:51 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
We don't clean up the homeless problem for America. We only clean it when Chinese dictators come to visit.

There is no "we". In any place in America, if the mayor and city council want to do something about homelessness, it gets done. When the mayor and city council are tired of doing something, it gets undone. There is no "we" until the Congress in DC decides that the USA will permanently and dependably continue to provide money to those mayors and city councils who are doing something. But the Republicans in Congress don't want to pay to end homelessness. Until they change, there is no "we".

San Francisco ‘Cleaned Up’ Streets Ahead of APEC. But How and What, Exactly, Did It Do?
https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/14/city-clears-homeless-encampments-ape
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/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



They get PLENTY OF FUCKING MONEY and the problem doesn't get fixed because it's big business and they're all skimming off the top.

And now we're giving them money for homeless illegal invaders too instead of booting them the fuck out of the country and keeping anymore from coming in.

We treat hostile foreign invaders better than we treat our own homeless population.


But they clean up the all the piss and shit and used drug paraphernalia off the streets and hide all the homeless people in California every time a 3rd World Dictator visits or major sporting event pops up.

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 7:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

They get PLENTY OF FUCKING MONEY and the problem doesn't get fixed because it's big business and they're all skimming off the top.

And now we're giving them money for homeless illegal invaders too instead of booting them the fuck out of the country and keeping anymore from coming in.

We treat hostile foreign invaders better than we treat our own homeless population.

But they clean up the all the piss and shit and used drug paraphernalia off the streets and hide all the homeless people in California every time a 3rd World Dictator visits or major sporting event pops up.

All those problems exist because, literally, nobody cares enough to pay to fix those problems permanently, systematically, across all of the USA. Somebody might care for a little while, but they soon run out of empathy, energy, or money. Maybe all three. When a problem permanently gets solved, such as what to do about old people living in poverty with no health care, there is a Federal program (Medicare, Social Security). Both those programs are constantly being attacked by Republicans as too expensive.

6ixStringJack, all these other problems that bother you will not be permanently solved because Republicans won't pay to solve them. Solutions are too expensive for Republicans. By the way, it is Congress that solves problems permanently, not the President because those guys come and go, wax and wane, but legislation stays around forever once passed into law.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 10:59 PM

Hey SECOND, you claim to be wealthy. Why don't YOU ante up to fix America's problems, huh?


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Saturday, November 18, 2023 11:41 PM

SIX, you don't know the full story. It's worse than you think.

Biden* admin officilas have been angling for A YEAR to get a Xi- Biden* "summit" bc powerful interest groups needed it to happen:

a) Between the disaster that is Ukraine and complications in the Mideast, the Pentagon realizes it doesn't have anything it needs to fight a war with China this year. (It won't for the foreseeable future either, but they want to kick THAT can down the road a bit.)

bl The DNC doesn't want ANOTHER military disaster on its hands in the year before an election.

c) Janet Yellen (Treasury) desperately needs China to re-start buying USA bonds so she can continue to fund America's deficit

d) Tech business heads - Tim Cook (Apple), Elon Musk (Tesla), Bill Gates, Pfizer... businesses whose profits depend on cheap tech manufacturers in China - are anxious to continue normal trade with China.

A lot was riding on this meeting, from the American side. So Blinken went to China and got verbally beat up several months ago, and Yellen went to China, all to wrangle some sort of detente with China. The Chinese, knowing how desperately the Biden admin* wanted this meeting, drove a hard bargain, and kept the organizers guessing until just the last minute whether Xi would even attend.

They insisted that

a) SF streets be cleaned up

b) No anti- China demonstrations (So organizers wrangled the Chinese citizens of SF line the motorcade route waving Chinese flags, creating a visual that Xi has wide suport in the USA)

c) The meeting between Xi and Biden* take place BEFORE the Asia Pacific Economic Conference, to emphasize that Xi was not just "a" representative for APEC, but THE most important and powerful one

d) The meeting take place outside of SF

e) Now, I dont know if our State Department arranged this, but they certainly OK'd it: On the way home, Xi met with all those big business movers and shakers and they gave him a long, warm standing ovation.

And then, before Xi had even left for China, Biden (not the intergency that is Biden* but the individual Biden) went way off script, blurted out whatever came into his head at the moment, not at all in control of what he was saying, and shredded a whole year's worth of groveling and preparation.



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Sunday, November 19, 2023 12:05 AM

So now Xi has an excuse, if he needed one, to isolate China from the USA even more, continue building his military, bind more tightly to Russia, continue to make inroads in the "global south", de- dollarize, etc etc.. everything the Biden* interagency DIDN'T want happening.

Not only do WE see it, the whole world sees it:

China is a powerful nation, the USA, led by a decrepit President, grovels before China.

This is a powerful card in international relations. Nations which may have been sitting on the fence between the "collective west" and the BRICS may be less afraid of the west's reaction, and feel safer under the BRICS umbrella. This will eventually lead to political, economic, financial, and military disaffection from the collective west.

Africa, the Mideast (China is a huge buyer of Mideast oil and gas, including from Iran), South America... everyone is recalculating their relationship with the USA, not just bc of Biden but bc powerful, functional American interest groups bent to China's will.

This will play HUGELY in the upcoming election. These interest groups, who happen to be wealthy DNC donors, are telling the DNC in no uncertain terms that Biden HAS TO GO.

So if you ask me today who I think will be running, it will be Gavin Newsom (with a Dem governor from the SE to "balance the ticket") v Trump.

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Sunday, November 19, 2023 12:37 AM

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Xi Outmaneuvers Biden In San Francisco
Friday, Nov 17, 2023 - 08:40 PM

Authored by Pepe Escobar,

On one side of the table, a Global South leader at the top of his game. On the other side, a mummy selling the illusion he’s the “leader of the free world.”

That was bound for a cliffhanger – before, during or after the crucial bilateral involving the world’s top two powers. Already during the introductory remarks, US Secretary of State Tony Blinken, sitting on the right side of the mummy, was as terrified as James Stewart afraid of heights in Hitchcock's "Vertigo" - sensing doom would dawn at any second.

Then it did - at the final presser. Joe Biden, the actor playing The Mummy, following a proverbial smirk, said Chinese President Xi Jinping is “a dictator”. Because he is the leader of a communist country.

All those previous elaborate plans unraveled, in a flash. A tentatively rosy scenario turned into a film noir. The Chinese Foreign Ministry’s response was as sharp as a Dashiell Hammett one-liner – and contextualized: this was not only “extremely wrong” but “an irresponsible political manipulation”.

All of the above of course assumed The Mummy knew where he was and what he was talking about, “off the cuff”, and not dictated by his ubiquitous earpiece.

The White House gives away the plot

The Xi-Biden drama, lasting a little over two hours, was not exactly a remake of “Vertigo”. Washington and Beijing seemed quite cozy jointly promising the proverbial promotion and strengthening of “dialogue and cooperation in various fields”; an intergovernmental dialogue on AI; drug control cooperation; back to high-level military-to-military talking; a “maritime security consultation mechanism”; significantly increasing flights by early 2024; and “expanding exchanges” in education, international students, culture, sports, and business circles.

The Hegemon was far from having a priceless Maltese Falcon (“the stuff dreams are made of”) to offer Beijing. China is already solidified as the world’s top trading economy by PPP. China is advancing at breakneck speed on the tech race even under nasty US sanctions. China’s soft power across the Global South/Global Majority increases by the day. China is co-organizing with Russia the concerted drive towards multipolarity.

The White House readout , as bland as it might seem, actually gives away the key part of the plot.

Biden – actually his earpiece - underscored “support for a free and open Indo-Pacific”; the defense of “our Indo-Pacific allies”; the “commitment to freedom of navigation and overflight”; “adherence to international law”; “maintaining peace and stability in the South China Sea and East China Sea”; “support to “Ukraine’s defense against Russian aggression”; and “support for Israel’s right to defend itself against terrorism”.

Beijing understands in detail the context and the geopolitical overtones of each of these pledges.

What the readout does not say is that Biden’s handlers also tried to convince the Chinese to stop buying oil from their strategic partner Iran.

That’s not gonna happen. China imported an average of 1.05 million barrels of oil a day from Iran over the first 10 months of 2023 - and rising.

US Think Tankland, always excelling in misinformation and disinformation, believed in their own childish projection of Xi playing tough guy against the US in Asia, knowing that Washington can’t afford a third love affair, sorry, war front on top of Ukraine and Israel/Palestine.

The fact is Xi knows all there is to know about imperial, rotating Hybrid War fronts, plus others that can be powered on at the flick of a switch. The Hegemon continues to provoke disturbance not only in Taiwan but in the Philippines, Japan, South Korea, India, and continues to flirt with possible color revolutions in Central Asia.

There has been no direct US-China confrontation yet thanks to millenary Chinese diplomatic expertise and long term vision. Beijing knows in detail how Washington is simultaneously in Full Hybrid War mode agains

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