A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution
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Quote:All fascists are nationalists, therefore all nationalists are fascists.
Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Fascists are nationalists, just like ISIS. You lose again, Russian troll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
REAVERBOT thinks the American flag and the ISIS flag ... and the Nazi flag! ... are all the same thing!
All dogs have four legs, therefore elephants are dogs.
Logic fail.
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Also, I disagree with your statement that fascists are nationalists. They aren't. The first loyalty of a fascist is to corporations, not the state. They believe that the state should serve corporations. In that sense, many of our current politicians (of both parties) are fascists.
Maybe you're thinking of Nazi (National Socialism)? Even so, your logic fails. All Nazis are nationalists, but not all nationalists are Nazis.
It's even possible to be a nationalist AND a socialist (like AOC) without being a genocidal maniac, much less an actual Nazi.
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Quote:Wisconsin has an unusual law. It was one of the first in the country, passed after a previous killing by the Kenosha police. When people are killed by police in Wisconsin, an outside agency reviews the case, but Jacob Blake was not killed. Is there going to be an outside investigation triggered in a case like this one?
Originally posted by SignyM:
All dogs have four legs, therefore elephants are dogs.
Logic fail.
I think it’s really interesting that our law, which was in fact the first in the nation, was passed largely due to the efforts of a man named Michael Bell, whose son was fatally shot in the head by Kenosha police all the way back in 2004. Michael Bell’s son, whose name was also Michael Bell, was shot point-blank in the head in front of his mother and sister in their driveway. Kenosha Police Internal Affairs did their own investigation and within 48 hours cleared those officers of any wrongdoing. So that is when Bell’s father said, This is ridiculous. (A logic fail, Signym.) How can anybody be expected to do a thorough investigation of their own department?
And I think one thing that people need to know about the shooting of Jacob Blake, and people need to know about what’s going on with policing in Kenosha, is that since 2004, the police have not had a great relationship with basically anyone in Kenosha. Michael Bell, who was shot in the head and killed in 2004, was white. And our review of fatal police shootings in Kenosha since then shows that the majority of the people that police have fatally shot are white also. We know of one Black man who’s been fatally shot in Kenosha since 2003. But it seems to me that the police in Kenosha don’t have a great relationship with people of any race.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/kenosha-jacob-blake-protes
ts-shootings-kyle-rittenhouse-what-next.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Here is another Logic fail, this time it is Trump's fail:
Originally posted by SignyM:
All dogs have four legs, therefore elephants are dogs.
Logic fail.
Trump says he won't meet with Jacob Blake's family.
"Well, I spoke to the (family's) pastor ... and I thought it would be better not to do anything where there were lawyers involved. They wanted me to speak. They wanted to have lawyers involved and I thought that was inappropriate, so I didn't do that. But I did speak with the pastor of the family," Trump said. The President said he and the pastor had "a great talk," adding, "I may at some point do that, but they did have a lawyer that wanted to be on the phone and I said no. That's inappropriate, but I did just give my best regards."
www.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/donald-trump-jacob-blake-kenosha-visit
/index.html
Benjamin Crump, an attorney for the Blake family, said it was a routine practice for his clients to have legal counsel with them when they spoke to someone in the government, including Barack Obama during his presidency and former Vice President Joe Biden.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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SECONDRATE brings up two examples of what he thinks are logic fails, but neither one is, demonstrating SECONDRATE's logic fail.
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Quote:[Mind reading, imputing a motive
Originally posted by reaverfan:
8/29, Portland shooting of Jay Bishop
Earlier in the day, a pro-Trump motorcade of ~600 cars went through the highway on the edge of Portland. A contingent of them decided to drive into the city and confront antifascist protesters. They brought mace, paint ball guns, and other weapons, which shows they preemptively wanted to attack people. They taped off their license plates, a crime, to hide their identities, and yet the police did nothing which gives even more credence to the idea that Portland PD is colluding with them, more info here and here. They attacked a man recording some not taped off plates. They tried to run over protesters, a common terrorist tactic, and shot paintball guns at people, who defended themselves by throwing bottles and other stuff they had on themselves.
During the day, two men were interviewed by a journalist. One is Chandler Pappas, a known patriot prayer activist, and the other is Jay Bishop, also known as Aaron Danielson, the one that ended up dead. The journalist tweeted this picture of them heavily armed before the shooting, quoting Chandler as saying “I’m here to stop people from assaulting these people” which to him meant hunting antifascists.
Quote:LINKS PLEASE
There is also audio footage of Chandler talking about how he's ready to start killing leftists from a different incident.
The initial video that came out of this was fuzzy and gave away very little, making it easy for the right to make it out to be trump supporters being hunted by antifa. A second video has since emerged, posted by Ian Miles Cheong, right wing grifter turned influencer (more on him on the bottom), whose apparently too stupid to actually look at what he posts. Here is the transcript (source), feel free to follow along.
0:05 Chandler Pappas: "Hey, we got 'em right here! We got a couple right here. We got a couple right here. Mace 'em. Pull it out."
Jay: "Right here?"
Pappas maces Michael Reinoehl. A split second later, Reinoehl fires two shots, one of which kills Jay.
0:20 Chandler Pappas (same voice as earlier) starts screaming 'Jay', about his friend that was shot. It's clear that Chandler is the same person in the earlier portion that was hunting protesters and was screaming that his friend was shot.
They literally went to hunt antifascists on the streets with pepper spray, and Jay was killed by a man defending himself.
It's important to point out that Jay, the dead wannabe-badass, supported Jeremy Christian's terrorist attack when a Trump supporter killed two people who stood up against him racially harassing two teenage girls by framing it as "three vigilante thugs who assaulted a man for his opinions." He was also arrested for bringing a gun to a protest in 2017, but the charges were dropped because the search was deemed illegal.
You keep posting stuff without ever revealing the source. Is this someone's opinion? A sworn eyewitness statement? Analysis of a video? What?
You have quite a reputation for being wrong to live down. You've been so wrong about so many things before, bringing quotes to the board by people who themselves were 100% wrong, I'd need to know who your source is and how they reached this scenario. also a link to the video.
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Siggy once again repeats a typical Russian troll logical fallacy.
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Quote:Jesus fuck, you typical Russian troll. It's all linked, as always, you dumb bitch. I suppose that living in Russia, you may not be able to access them, living in a fascist country, as you do.
Originally posted by SignyM:
LINKS PLEASE
You keep posting stuff without ever revealing the source. Is this someone's opinion? A sworn eyewitness statement? Analysis of a video? What?
You have quite a reputation for being wrong to live down. You've been so wrong about so many things before, bringing quotes to the board by people who themselves were 100% wrong, I'd need to know who your source is and how they reached this scenario. also a link to the video.
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Well, thanks for putting them in after-the-fact!
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