Some Covid-19 thoughts
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UPDATED: Monday, September 29, 2025 18:59
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Quote:Governor Greg Abbott, Republican, has deemed churches and houses of worship essential, thereby allowing them to stay open. And that goes right to the objection that a lot of pastors had. They did not like it when the government said that worship services were nonessential. They really were offended by that. Churches with Republican majorities just don't like the government telling them what to do. The Churches with a majority of Democrats have shut down. And while the Texas Governor was keeping churches open, at the very same time he banned abortions. He knows what Republican voters have always wanted, but couldn't have because of an old Supreme Court decision, and he was finally able to give it to them, justifying it by citing a pandemic as the reason.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Oh, I understood that. It just reminded me of some megachurch in Texas defying orders to close, because ... idk. I wasn't clear!
www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/04/01/texas-governor-says-attendi
ng-church-is-essential-but-abortions-can-wait-indefinitely/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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A lot of people are going to die either way.
You keep everything closed up, it's going to be a lot of young people who die.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You might be mistaken. Life and death during the Great Depression
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You keep everything closed up, it's going to be a lot of young people who die.
For most age groups, mortality tended to peak during years of strong economic expansion (such as 1923, 1926, 1929, and 1936–1937). In contrast, the recessions of 1921, 1930–1933, and 1938 coincided with declines in mortality and gains in life expectancy. The only exception was suicide mortality which increased during the Great Depression, but accounted for less than 2% of deaths. Correlation and regression analyses confirmed a significant negative effect of economic expansions on health gains. The evolution of population health during the years 1920–1940 confirms the counterintuitive hypothesis that, as in other historical periods and market economies, population health tends to evolve better during recessions than in expansions.
Although social science is not physics, regularities in the past allow us at least some confidence in forecasting the future. Historical experience tells us that no particular increase of mortality is to be expected as a consequence of a recession beyond an increase in suicides which, although clearly important, is of small magnitude compared to the reduced number of fatalities from other causes.
While economic expansions bring with them increases in employment, greater optimism, and higher incomes (although not always and not for all sectors of the population), recessions are periods of pessimism, shrinking revenues, and social malaise. The Great Depression of the 1930s was a major crisis of social life, in which many people suffered reductions in income and deprivation, and consequent social unrest was widespread. Nevertheless, this was not associated with major declines in population health, which suggests that other mechanisms more than compensate the possible detrimental health impact of high unemployment and economic disruption. A better understanding of the beneficial effects of recessions on health may perhaps contribute to the development of economic policies that enhance health and minimize or buffer adverse impacts of economic expansions.
www.pnas.org/content/106/41/17290
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Things we didn't have in the 1920s:
DOW Jones portfolios via 401k that was supposed to cover retirement going up in smoke literally overnight.
A New Economy in the aftermath of this that will not very much resemble the old one because there is no way that it ever could. (Unlike the future decades that "proved" that war can be quite profitable for Americans, there will be no wartime economic boom to rescue the American economy this time).
Government mandated lockdowns forcing everybody inside.
Millions of jobs lost, with millions of workers that can't even apply for new ones because the state ordered all of the businesses closed.
50 years worth of some pretty terrible flicks depicting all sorts of violence, suicidal thoughts, and apocolypse scenarios bouncing around in the heads of people who are stuck home with each other panicking.
Terrible News Outlets that profit off of all of this and have the most captive audience in the history of news to continually pump the poison into their minds.
Drugs. Tons and tons and tons of drugs. All sorts of new ones that destroy countless lives even during the good times.
We've already seen quite a break down in society over the last few decades.
Most folk aren't mentally equipped for this. As long as things stay shut down, things can only get worse.
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Quote:The people in America who had that happen to them are white boys without a college degree. That would be YOU. Vote Trump! President Trump will make you feel better, but if you'd finished college you'd be a whole lot better off than if Trump gets elected President-For-Life. I'm just going by my experience as a not particularly articulate white boy who finished a mechanical engineering degree from the University of Texas at Austin. By the way, 3 years to graduate from UT Austin was much easier than 4 years at Sam Rayburn High School in Pasadena or in the US Army/Veterans hospital during the Vietnam War. That is just in case you whine about how unreasonable it is to expect white boys to go to college to get ahead in America.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We've already seen quite a break down in society over the last few decades.
Most folk aren't mentally equipped for this. As long as things stay shut down, things can only get worse.
What’s Going on With America’s White People?
Trump’s rise put a sudden spotlight on the troubles of white working-class Americans.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/problems-white-people-america-
society-class-race-214227
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:The people in America who had that happen to them are white boys without a college degree. That would be YOU. Vote Trump! President Trump will make you feel better, but if you'd finished college you'd be a whole lot better off than if Trump gets elected President-For-Life. I'm just going by my experience as a not particularly articulate white boy who finished a mechanical engineering degree from the University of Texas at Austin. By the way, 3 years to graduate from UT Austin was much easier than 4 years at Sam Rayburn High School in Pasadena or in the US Army/Veterans hospital during the Vietnam War. That is just in case you whine about how unreasonable it is to expect white boys to go to college to get ahead in America.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We've already seen quite a break down in society over the last few decades.
Most folk aren't mentally equipped for this. As long as things stay shut down, things can only get worse.
What’s Going on With America’s White People?
Trump’s rise put a sudden spotlight on the troubles of white working-class Americans.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/problems-white-people-america-
society-class-race-214227
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
lol. You're so full of shit.
My house is paid for, buddy, and I'm all stocked up and I have zero debts. I also don't have anybody living here leeching my supplies or dealing with their own pent up frustrations that will only get worse as the lockdowns continue.
I wonder how all those people with college debt they'll be paying off the rest of their lives that can never be forgiven with bankruptcy feel right now while their means of earning a paycheck have been shut off to them and they still can't even log into the website to file an unemployment claim three weeks after they lost their jobs. Do they still think that Bachelors Degree in Gender Studies was a good idea in April of 2020?
Oh, yeah.
Let's add to the list of things people have in 2020 that they didn't have 100 years ago:
Crippling Student Loan Debt that they'll never pay off, even in good times.
Crippling Credit Card Debt with 30% interest rates that they'll never pay off in, even good times.
(And very likely when the dust settles....) Crippling Underwater Mortgages that leeched out any equity they had in their homes, leaving them with 30 years of payments on a house that isn't worth as much as they're going to end up paying on the balance.
Whoopsie!
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Quote:This is real case that came up 3 weeks ago. A Republican wants to give $10,000 to her son. She has 3 choices:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You're so full of shit.
1) Pay $600 to a pawnshop every 2 weeks, which is $15,600 interest per year on a $10,000 loan.
2) Pay $500 to a quick loan shop every 2 weeks for 5 year, which is $65,000 to pay back a 5 year, $10,000 loan.
3) Pay $250 every week to her son or into a savings account for 40 weeks, until $10,000 has been saved, then give the money to the son.
Which option did the Republican pick?
Option 1. Then Option 2 after realizing that $600 every 2 weeks is more than $500 every 2 weeks.
After much questioning, I discovered that Option 3 would have also worked because the son did not need the money immediately. But Option 3 did NOT even occur as a possibility to the Republican until I had explained over and over.
What lesson did I learn? Republicans are stupid. Then I went to the quick loan shop and paid back the $10,000 loan from Option 2 and got a promise from the Republican to pay me back and never do either Option 1 or 2 again. But I know the Republican will forget and probably within a few weeks or months. Then the Republican will be right back in the same stupid predicament. Trump lovers are so predictably incompetent and slow to learn.
I should add that Trump lovers, the smarter ones, get into the same predictions as the dumber Trump lovers, but the details are more complex, yet still just as stupid as hell.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:This is real case that came up 3 weeks ago. A Republican wants to give $10,000 to her son. She has 3 choices:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You're so full of shit.
1) Pay $600 to a pawnshop every 2 weeks, which is $15,600 interest per year on a $10,000 loan.
2) Pay $500 to a quick loan shop every 2 weeks for 5 year, which is $65,000 to pay back a 5 year, $10,000 loan.
3) Pay $250 every week to her son or into a savings account for 40 weeks, until $10,000 has been saved, then give the money to the son.
Which option did the Republican pick?
Option 1. Then Option 2 after realizing that $600 every 2 weeks is more than $500 every 2 weeks.
After much questioning, I discovered that Option 3 would have also worked because the son did not need the money immediately. But Option 3 did NOT even occur as a possibility to the Republican until I had explained over and over.
What lesson did I learn? Republicans are stupid. Then I went to the quick loan shop and paid back the $10,000 loan from Option 2 and got a promise from the Republican to pay me back and never do either Option 1 or 2 again. But I know the Republican will forget and probably within a few weeks or months. Then the Republican will be right back in the same stupid predicament. Trump lovers are so predictably incompetent and slow to learn.
I should add that Trump lovers, the smarter ones, get into the same predictions as the dumber Trump lovers, but the details are more complex, yet still just as stupid as hell.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Meanwhile...
Your personal anecdotes about Evil Texas Republicans have no basis at all in reality and are not applicable at all to me.
Thanks for playing though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Oh, I understood that. It just reminded me of some megachurch in Texas defying orders to close, because ... idk. I wasn't clear!
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Kiki, I think what the church sign is talking about is people still being idiots about social distancing. I've not heard of any churches here in BC being open on Sunday for services.
Stanley Park in Vancouver is closing the park to cars, so people walking, biking and jogging can social distance more and still enjoy the park. Though Vancouver Park Board has admitted that their officers have handed out 1,600 notices to people who haven't been adhering to the chief medical officer's orders.
Think there are a couple of parks closed but not sure. They are being monitored. Park boards don't want to close them unless they have to.
It's okay Kiki. I know about the churches in Texas and in Florida holding services. Dumbazzes.
P.S., I also thought the sign was funny as Easter is coming and these signs usually have religious sayings on them.
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