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Sunday, July 4, 2021 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by SECONDRATE: Tax experts have said prosecutions centered on fringe benefits are rare
And, in this case, politically-motivated.




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Sunday, July 4, 2021 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy and the cat-and-mouse games that people play to avoid paying their fair share. While these charges may seem relatively minor given the larger allegations of tax fraud associated with Trump’s statements to borrowers and tax authorities about the value of his various properties, they amount to serious violations of the basic tax rules . . .

More at The Charges Against the Trump Organization Are a Master Class in Tax Evasion
https://slate.com/business/2021/07/trump-organization-allen-weisselber
g-charges-tax-evasion-fringe-benefits.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 5, 2021 1:56 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy and the cat-and-mouse games that people play to avoid paying their fair share. While these charges may seem relatively minor given the larger allegations of tax fraud associated with Trump’s statements to borrowers and tax authorities about the value of his various properties, they amount to serious violations of the basic tax rules . . .



He started off so well...

No. They are NOT serious violations of the basic tax rules.

All the shenanigans that he was able to get away with on his taxes were the exact same shenanigans that ALL rich people are LEGALLY able to get away with on their taxes.

The absolute worst thing he might be guilty of at this point is opening his non-professional mouth about his taxes, because hes' NOT the one who files them and idiots like you are going to take his layman speak as gospel.

Funny that, huh? You haven't believed a single thing he said in the last FIVE YEARS, but NOW you're going to believe him.

You're a partisan wack job and a Trumptard, Second.


Get a fuckin' life.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 3:05 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy and the cat-and-mouse games that people play to avoid paying their fair share. While these charges may seem relatively minor given the larger allegations of tax fraud associated with Trump’s statements to borrowers and tax authorities about the value of his various properties, they amount to serious violations of the basic tax rules . . .



He started off so well...

No. They are NOT serious violations of the basic tax rules.

All the shenanigans that he was able to get away with on his taxes were the exact same shenanigans that ALL rich people are LEGALLY able to get away with on their taxes.

The absolute worst thing he might be guilty of at this point is opening his non-professional mouth about his taxes, because hes' NOT the one who files them and idiots like you are going to take his layman speak as gospel.

Funny that, huh? You haven't believed a single thing he said in the last FIVE YEARS, but NOW you're going to believe him.

You're a partisan wack job and a Trumptard, Second.


Get a fuckin' life.

You are blaming Trump's accountants. Al Capone defended himself by blaming his accountants. There is another parallel: Trump and Capone both knew they had paid no taxes. Another: both retired to Florida, Capone after he was released from prison for income tax evasion and Trump after he lost an election.

Due to his "failing" health and excellent lawyers, Capone was released from prison on November 16, 1939 for the treatment of paresis (caused by late-stage syphilis), died January 25, 1947. Capone spent the last seven years of his life at his mansion in Palm Island, Florida, spending time with his wife and grandchildren. Trump should be so lucky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone#Failing_health_and_death

President Trump paid no income taxes for 10 of the 15 years before he was elected president, and just $750 a year in 2016 and 2017.
https://fortune.com/2020/09/27/trump-paid-no-income-taxes/

Trump dismissed the report as “fake news” and maintained he has paid taxes, though he gave no specifics. He also vowed that information about his taxes “will all be revealed,” but he offered no timeline for the disclosure and made similar promises during the 2016 campaign on which he never followed through.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 5, 2021 5:58 AM

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SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

SECONDRATE: Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy Trump



Trump ... Trump... Trump.Trump.Trump...Trump ...

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Monday, July 5, 2021 6:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

SECONDRATE: Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy Trump



Trump ... Trump... Trump.Trump.Trump...Trump ...

Do you realize that Trump could absolutely destroy all those horrible people who doubt he paid all his taxes by simply making his tax returns public information?

He promised that he would, over and over, but he has not released even one return.

Surely there is ONE year where he paid all his taxes? Maybe all four years he was President!

Every other President released their taxes, but NOT Trump:

Tax History Project
Presidential Tax Returns
https://www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-president
s-and-candidates
/



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Monday, July 5, 2021 7:51 AM

Daniel C. Dennett, Philosopher, asked the question:
How can an aggregation of trillions of selfish, myopic cells discover the unwitting teamwork that turns that dynamic clump called Trump into a person who can love, notice, wonder, and keep a promise?
www.edge.org/response-detail/27449

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Monday, July 5, 2021 8:13 AM

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Originallly posted by SECONDRATE:
Trump.

Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump ...
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump... TRUMP!
Trump.
Trump.

Also, Trump.
And TRUMP!
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump...

HAHAHAHA! You're funny!


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Monday, July 5, 2021 8:14 AM

Jesus Christ you are sick.

Get some help.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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THG
Monday, July 5, 2021 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
To both of the idiots above...

He's got a tax team that takes care of that stuff.

I'm sure he's referring to the fact that you can use company vehicles and apartments used for work as tax write offs when you own a business.



Trump will be fine.

Tax experts have said prosecutions centered on fringe benefits are rare, but some have compared the charges to the case against Leona Helmsley, a New York real estate developer who was convicted of evading $1.2 million in taxes in the 1980s. Rudy Giuliani sent Trump business rival Leona Helmsley to prison for tax fraud.



How the Trump Org. charges could open the indictment floodgates

There are several clues in the indictment that others are cooperating against Weisselberg and the Trump Organization. One of the clues is pretty overt: the indictment states that Weisselberg lied to his tax preparer about his status as a New York City resident. It’s never a good sign when a defendant’s tax preparer seems to be cooperating with prosecutors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-the-trump-org-charges-coul
d-open-the-indictment-floodgates/ar-AALMRVx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531




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