Chernobyl... anyone watching?

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, June 20, 2019 9:22 PM

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After watching the HBO miniseries, I knew there was more to the science of this. I've also heard a lot of stuff from both credible and non-credible sources that just doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
What /Actually/ Happened at Chernobyl
Why Chernobyl Exploded - The Real Physics Behind The Reactor

Enjoyed the first video, second, thanks. I'm going to let my brain cool before watching the second one.

Not sure if you have seen AMC's The Terror. A mini series starring the same actor that portrayed Legasov, Jared Harris. He's pretty good in that series as well - such an unlikely actor, which is cool. It's a Ridley Scott produced show and is quite good imho.

Bonus, season 2, The Terror: Infamy, premieres on August 12th on AMC. It shifts the setting to World War II and the focus to Japanese internment camps.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 21, 2019 5:54 AM

Hey... JoBlo.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Friday, June 21, 2019 5:22 PM

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Not sure if you have seen AMC's The Terror. A mini series starring the same actor that portrayed Legasov, Jared Harris. He's pretty good in that series as well - such an unlikely actor, which is cool. It's a Ridley Scott produced show and is quite good imho.

Bonus, season 2, The Terror: Infamy, premieres on August 12th on AMC. It shifts the setting to World War II and the focus to Japanese internment camps.

I saw The Terror. I won't see The Terror:Infamy. Those tales don't entertain me about supernatural monsters with human-like intent to terrorize, possibly because of the book "Faces in the Clouds: A New Theory of Religion". I can see what mental button those tales are pressing, hammering on the human control panel. www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-19-506901-3

The book shows that most people will systematically anthropomorphize -- they attribute human characteristics to nonhuman things and events. People find a wide range of humanlike beings plausible: Gods, spirits, abominable snowmen. The Terror had a snowman and The Terror:Infamy will have spirits but both shows will be pushing the same button on the audience: fear the supernatural.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, June 21, 2019 7:44 PM

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Not sure if you have seen AMC's The Terror. A mini series starring the same actor that portrayed Legasov, Jared Harris. He's pretty good in that series as well - such an unlikely actor, which is cool. It's a Ridley Scott produced show and is quite good imho.

Bonus, season 2, The Terror: Infamy, premieres on August 12th on AMC. It shifts the setting to World War II and the focus to Japanese internment camps.

I saw The Terror. I won't see The Terror:Infamy. Those tales don't entertain me about supernatural monsters with human-like intent to terrorize, possibly because of the book "Faces in the Clouds: A New Theory of Religion". I can see what mental button those tales are pressing, hammering on the human control panel. www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-19-506901-3

The book shows that most people will systematically anthropomorphize -- they attribute human characteristics to nonhuman things and events. People find a wide range of humanlike beings plausible: Gods, spirits, abominable snowmen. The Terror had a snowman and The Terror:Infamy will have spirits but both shows will be pushing the same button on the audience: fear the supernatural.

Interesting. I never expect that much from TV programming. As a one time film major (wank) I am much more interested in story telling, lighting, editing, scoring, acting - the craft of the medium - and the intangibles that can happen when even low art is attempted. I put my faith in Ridley Scott to check a lot of those boxes and am rarely disappointed.

Another Scott mini series that was enjoyable when it wasn't trying too hard:

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:07 PM

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Truly amazing mini series. 5 episodes. The production design is remarkable, music brilliant, acting... etc etc etc.
The story of the ultimate price of state sponsored lies.

Highly recommend.

Fight lies with lies, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SECOND

Wednesday, June 17, 2020 6:53 PM

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Fight lies with lies, huh?

Next you're gonna complain that astronomy has not discovered 5 Suns orbiting each other like in Firefly's 'Verse and closer than 35 lightyears to Terra.

The HBO series "Chernobyl" gets plenty of things right about the nuclear power plant disaster that most likely exposed hundreds of thousands of people to radiation. But to adapt the story for television, the "Chernobyl" writer and producer Craig Mazin invented a character and adjusted the chronology of a few events.
More at www.businessinsider.com/chernobyl-hbo-whats-true-myths-2019-5

Alexievich’s book about Chernobyl was published in Russian in 1997, more than ten years after one of the reactors at the Chernobyl power plant exploded, in what was probably the worst nuclear accident in history. One of the most remarkable facts about Chernobyl is that the narrative vacuum had persisted for that long, and, in fact, it has persisted since: Alexievich’s book came to prominence, both in Russia and in the West, only following her Nobel Prize win. There have been stories in the media in Russia and abroad, many of them on the odd tourist industry that has sprung up in the disaster zone; there has been a BBC documentary and a bizarre American-Ukrainian documentary. But in the past year two books, one by a historian and the other by a journalist, have attempted to tell the definitive documentary story of the disaster. Finally, the HBO series “Chernobyl,” the fifth and final episode of which aired Monday, tells a fictionalized version. It being television, and very well-received television at that, it is the series, rather than the books, that will probably finally fill the vacuum where the story of Chernobyl should be. This is not a good thing.

Before I get to what the series got so terribly wrong, I should acknowledge what it got right. In “Chernobyl,” which was created and written by Craig Mazin and directed by Johan Renck, the material culture of the Soviet Union is reproduced with an accuracy that has never before been seen in Western television or film—or, for that matter, in Russian television or film. Clothes, objects, and light itself seem to come straight out of nineteen-eighties Ukraine, Belarus, and Moscow. (There are tiny errors, like a holiday uniform worn by schoolchildren on a non-holiday, or teen-agers carrying little kids’ school bags, but this is truly splitting hairs.) Soviet-born Americans—and, indeed, Soviet-born Russians—have been tweeting and blogging in awe at the uncanny precision with which the physical surroundings of Soviet people have been reproduced. The one noticeable mistake in this respect concerns the series makers’ apparent ignorance of the vast divisions between different socioeconomic classes in the Soviet Union: in the series, Valery Legasov (Jared Harris), a member of the Academy of Sciences, lives in nearly the same kind of squalor as a fireman in the Ukrainian town of Pripyat. In fact, Legasov would have lived in an entirely different kind of squalor than the fireman did.

Herein lies one of the series’ biggest flaws: its failure to accurately portray Soviet relationships of power. There are exceptions, flashes of brilliance that shed light on the bizarre workings of Soviet hierarchies. In the first episode, for example, during an emergency meeting of the Pripyat ispolkom, the town’s governing council, an elder statesman, Zharkov (Donald Sumpter), delivers a chilling, and chillingly accurate, speech, urging his compatriots to “have faith.” “We seal off the city,” Zharkov says. “No one leaves. And cut the phone lines. Contain the spread of misinformation. That is how we keep the people from undermining the fruits of their own labor.” This statement has everything: the bureaucratic indirectness of Soviet speech, the privileging of “fruits of labor” over the people who created them, and, of course, the utter disregard for human life.

The final episode of “Chernobyl” also contains a scene that encapsulates

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, June 17, 2020 10:26 PM

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Fight lies with lies, huh?
Next you're gonna complain that astronomy has not discovered 5 Suns orbiting each other like in Firefly's 'Verse and closer than 35 lightyears to Terra.

Why would I do that? Firefly wasn't based off of a real event.

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The HBO series "Chernobyl" gets plenty of things right about the nuclear power plant disaster that most likely exposed hundreds of thousands of people to radiation. But to adapt the story for television, the "Chernobyl" writer and producer Craig Mazin invented a character and adjusted the chronology of a few events.

He did a lot more than that. Watch the first five minutes of the video I posted. The entire premise of the movie was bullshit from the beginning.

It was also eerily similar to wrong "facts" that were recorded in a "documentary". The people of Kyiv and Minsk were never in any danger of ever being burned up with a plant failure. Not only because a thermonuclear explosion possible from the load could never possibly reach them, but the possibility of a thermonuclear explosion was an impossibility in the first place.

But there were railcars lined up to get them out of dodge, and the government and scientists had everybody panicking.

Kind of sounds familiar.... hmmmmmmm

It also sounds like Nuclear Power is not the horrible catastrophe waiting to happen that we've been lead to believe by a half century of horror stories that aren't based at all in reality.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 22, 2023 8:42 PM

Russia says West is sponsoring 'nuclear terrorism' after Ukrainian drone strike

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-west-is-sponsoring-nu
clear-terrorism-after-ukrainian-drone-strike-2023-07-14/

Ukraine war - live updates: Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant explosion 'could be akin to Chernobyl'

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-live-updates-zaporizhzhia-090217
024.html

Russia ‘has no red lines’ to stop them attacking nuclear plant, Ukraine says

https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/11/russia-has-no-red-lines-to-stop-attack-
on-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-19103982/

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, June 22, 2025 4:34 PM

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JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, April 30, 2026 3:30 PM

US to give $100 million to repair damaged Chornobyl nuclear shelter, Kyiv says

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