IRAN: Trump's war?
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just. great.
Iran fires more than a dozen missiles at US forces in Iraq, says it doesn't seek war
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Analysis Trump faces choice after Iran attack: To escalate or not
President Donald Trump speaks during an "Evangelicals for Trump Coalition Launch" at King Jesus International Ministry, Friday, Jan. 3, 2020, in Miami. (AP Photo/ Evan Vucci)
Trump tweets message of optimism following Iran's attacks
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Video appears to show missiles hit air base housing US troops
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Even worse ...
Quote:https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iran-refuses-hand-over-crash-da
Iran Refuses To Hand Over Crash Data, Stoking Speculation Plane Was Accidentally Shot Down
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One of the things repeatedly brought up by analysts discussing current tensions is that, at this point, the situation is ripe for false flags. (And our CIA is an expert at conducting false flags!) All "anyone" has to do is create an incident and blame Iran.
It will be extremely difficult for us mere mortals to suss out truth from lie. EVERYONE is going to want to spin this in their direction ... Israel and our deep state (two of the authors of this assassination) are going to fade even further into the background, while warhawk Republicans are going to paint this as a dire necessity (Don't worry, that narrative isn't going to go very far) and Democrats are going to SUDDENLY pretend to be the anti-war party!
If history is any guide, Iran will ignore Russia's advice to cool their jets because they feel righteously justified in striking back at the USA. Russia and Hezbollah will probably focus on getting USA troops out of Iraq ... this assassination is going to be ringing like a bell for at least a year, maybe longer.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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I was wondering if Trump was going to take an exit ramp re the missile strikes in Iran - "We did what we needed to do with a very bad guy - we're all good - show's over folks!"
As for the crash ... yeah, we'll never hear the truth out of that one, just like we'll never hear the truth about MH17. https: / /www. zerohedge.com /geopolitical/ukranian-whistleblower-reveals-mh-17-tragedy-was-orchestrated-poroshenko-and-british
Everyone should be entirely skeptical of the news by now. There are just too many ways to hide the truth and push a narrative, especially when dealing with covert ops. At least a few significant and credible someones would have to come forward to reveal the truth like with the OPCW Douma report (for anyone who looks for evidence instead of claims).
When it comes to actions in the ME instead of words, what's happened is that the US 'presence' has ratcheted upwards, and that'll take some time and effort to go the other way, if the US ever does do that voluntarily.
Belief is for wimps and mental midgets!
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Why is Trump so intolerant of Iran and yet so tolerant of Russia and North Korea?
Because President Obama signed a treaty with Iran but treated both North Korea and Russia harshly. Trump is motivated largely by a hatred of Obama, so he always wants to do the exact opposite. That means hating on Iran but cozying up to North Korea and Russia. This simple heuristic accounts for pretty much all of Trump’s country-specific sentiments, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, Germany, Canada, Ukraine, and Cuba.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Trump is harsh on Iran because Israel tells him to be. Or because Trump just has a boomer love for Israel. Or because Javanka wheedles him, or because his donors are pushing him. No matter how the message seeps thru, this is all for Israel.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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So what's the calculus on Iran and Iraq?
It's almost impossible to know WHY Trump took that fateful step of murdering Soleimani, who was (according to the Iraqi PM, and not denied by Saudi Arabia) on a peace mission between Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
Some clues might be gotten from the meeting at Mar a Lago, where Trump appears to have been ambushed by a gang of neocons from all directions, including Pompeo, Esper, O'Brian, Cotton, and Rubio. Not mentioned (but surely in the mix) Gina Haspel (CIA), if only by phone, because SOMEbody developed the (likely false) "intelligence" that said that Soleimani was planning a "large attack". It's hard to tell how much subterfuge versus arm-twisting was required, versus how much Trump wanted to do this on is own. If Trump was fooled by his "security state" (again) then shame on him. If neocon Senators twisted his arm over impeachment ... and I can imagine that they did because how to account for the presence of warhawk Senators at what should be a military/CIA meeting ... well, that's a somewhat different story.
In any case, Iran saved Trump's bacon. For now. By giving American military a one-hour notice and by firing missiles at American bases but carefully avoiding barracks where personnel might be sheltering, Iran was able to claim victory while giving Trump an off-ramp.
But this isn't going to be the last of this event. The focus that everyone (Iraq, Iran, Russia, China) can agree on is Iraq, and specificaly getting American troops out. Iraqi Parliament has voted for that, and the Iraqi PM has adopted as official policy the goal of removing US troops.
The question is: How? If American troops (and NATO troops) refuse to leave, what kind of pressure could/will be brought to bear on US bases?
The first thing to keep in mind is that the largest Shia militia force in Iraq is not the PMUs (Popular Mobilization Units) but the militias under Muqtada al-Sadr, who is NOT a friend of Iran! Probably small-scale harrassment - morter fire, cut supply lines, IEDs, rocket fire, possibly even a few suicide bombers. This will certainly be blamed in Iran, altho Iran would probably be involved in only about 20% of those attacks, and that only peripherally. How Trump would respond to that provocation is important, because that itself could turn into a proxy war. If the Iraqis have thought that far ahead, they would probably not turn to this tactic, altho both Iranians and Iraqis are rightly and royally pissed off.
A bigger step would be for Iraq to purchase Russian S-400s. As in Syria, there would be all of the usual steps along with that: deconfliction communication, red lines drawn, further squeezing of American airspace until airspace is esentially denied.
Another possibility is to satisfy Trump's transactional lust: he wants to get "something for something". He has openly said he wants to get paid for the bases that we built. The Iraq PM has said that privately Trump threatened to send snipers to shoot at demonstrators and Embassy security forces alike, turning the entire event into a shitshow to topple the government, if the PM didn't break his infrastructural deal with China and give the USA 50% of Iraqi oil. It's unlikely that Iraq would cancel its deal with China or give up so much of its oil - these are existential for Iraq - but China might just cut a check for the USA bases so that, once again, Trump can claim some sort of victory.
Trump's balls-to-the-wall "maximum pressure" style is certainly having an effect! I can't decide if it's Trump's intended effect, or simply based on Trump's refusal to recognize that the nations that he's dealing with have options besides succumbing to his browbeating, or his complete and total disregard for all of these "gloablist" systems that have mushroomed over the years.
Look at his refusal to grant the Iranian representative a visa to the UN for a Security Council meeting. Conservatives have said for
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Quote:MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-rebuffs-iraq-pm-appeal-talk-
US Rebuffs Iraq PM Request To Talk Troop Exit: It's "Our Right" As A "Force For Good" To Stay
Perhaps entirely to be expected, the US administration has unambiguously rejected Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi's urgent call for Washington to enact a US troop 'withdrawal mechanism' in Iraq. In a Thursday phone call to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Iraqi leader urged the administration to “send delegates to Iraq to prepare a mechanism to carry out the parliament’s resolution regarding the withdrawal of foreign troops from Iraq.”
Echoing prior statements of Mark Esper, the State Department underscored Friday that it's "our right" as a "force for good" in the region to maintain "appropriate force posture in the Middle East" in a statement by spokesperson Morgan Ortagus. She stated the US considers that a troop pullout is not on the table for discussion with Baghdad officials.
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"Force for good?"
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!
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lol. Force for good.
May the Force be with you.
And also with you.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Trump reveals new details on imminent threat from Soleimani
Trump brings us to the brink of a disastrous war with Iran and then claims credit for stopping it.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
I trust Trump more than I trust Meyers.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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