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Cry-Baby Trump

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:39 PM

1) Trump’s complaint, from today:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
When you hear Schiff use all these words like quid pro quo, it is because they can't specify that Donald Trump broke any laws or did anything wrong.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1194605354484715520

2) Schiff responded, today, to Trump:

In 2014, Russia invaded a United States ally, Ukraine, to reverse that nation’s embrace of the West, and to fulfill Vladimir Putin’s desire to rebuild a Russian empire. In the following years, thirteen thousand Ukrainians died as they battled superior Russian forces.

Earlier this year Volodymyr Zelensky was elected president of Ukraine on a platform of ending the conflict and tackling corruption. He was a newcomer to politics and immediately sought to establish a relationship with Ukraine’s most powerful patron, the United States. The questions presented by this impeachment inquiry are whether President Trump sought to exploit that ally’s vulnerability and invite Ukraine’s interference in our elections? Whether President Trump sought to condition official acts, such as a White House meeting or U.S. military assistance, on Ukraine's willingness to assist with two political investigations that would help his reelection campaign? And if President Trump did either, whether such an abuse of his power is compatible with the office of the presidency?

The matter is as simple, and as terrible as that. Our answer to these questions will affect not only the future of this presidency, but the future of the presidency itself, and what kind of conduct or misconduct the American people may come to expect from their Commander-in-Chief.

More at www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/full-opening-statem
ents-public-impeachment-hearings-n1081191


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:19 PM

lol

I used to think you guys and gals were a tragedy.

Now I realize that you're a comedy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I used to think you guys and gals were a tragedy.

Now I realize that you're a comedy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Joker said that, just before he murdered his mother in her hospital bed. If there was any artistry at all to that movie, then is was the heart monitor beeping slower and slower as his mother's heart stopped. (Except in reality, that would cause an alarm at the nursing station and in the patient's room). 6ix, that is a nasty, ugly movie you have praised. But Trump is an nasty, ugly, stupid President you voted for.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 1:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I used to think you guys and gals were a tragedy.

Now I realize that you're a comedy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Joker said that, just before he murdered his mother in her hospital bed. If there was any artistry at all to that movie, then is was the heart monitor beeping slower and slower as his mother's heart stopped. (Except in reality, that would cause an alarm at the nursing station and in the patient's room). 6ix, that is a nasty, ugly movie you have praised. But Trump is an nasty, ugly, stupid President you voted for.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=10857
85#1085785


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





And you're a nasty, ugly person who has said they will assassinate the president and know how to get away with it, and who has advocated for people to murder their bosses and steal all of their money.


But who's keeping score?




And I guess the nuance was missed on you. Joker said that about himself. I was saying it about you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Thursday, November 14, 2019 5:23 AM

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Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:11 AM

That's a good one, man.

Sent that one to a few people...

Reminds me of the thought process that happens when you catch a kid stealing a cookie...


I didn't see any cookies...
I didn't steal a cookie...
Ok, I might have seen a cookie... but but but...

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

And you're a nasty, ugly person who has said they will assassinate the president and know how to get away with it, and who has advocated for people to murder their bosses and steal all of their money.

But who's keeping score?

And I guess the nuance was missed on you. Joker said that about himself. I was saying it about you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

What would happen if President Trump were a high school principal who suspended the police chief’s son and then offered to take the boy back if the police department would investigate his ex-wife before an upcoming child custody hearing? If Trump were anyone else the president would be fired and perhaps subject to a criminal investigation.

As the impeachment process unfolds, Trump’s defenders will throw up dust clouds of complexity. But suppose that a low-ranking government official, the head of a branch Social Security office, intervened to halt a widow’s long-approved Social Security payments. The widow, alarmed that without that income she might lose her home, would call the branch director to ask for help.

“I’d like you to do me a favor, though,” the director might respond. He would suggest that her Social Security payments could resume, but he’d like the widow to give him her late husband’s collection of rare coins.

Everybody would see that as an outrageous abuse of power. Whether we’re Republicans or Democrats, we would all recognize that it’s inappropriate for a federal official to use his or her power over government resources to extract personal benefits. The Social Security official could say that the payments eventually resumed, or assert that the widow’s son had engaged in skulduggery — but he’d be out of a job in an instant and would face a criminal investigation.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:18 PM

Why make up a fake analogy?

What if Trump were Joe Biden demanding that Ukraine fire the prosecutor that was going to investigate his son or else he was going to withhold a billion dollars?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why make up a fake analogy?

What if Trump were Joe Biden demanding that Ukraine fire the prosecutor that was going to investigate his son or else he was going to withhold a billion dollars?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, your story, even though it is only 29 words long, is a lie from beginning to end. If you were an ordinary person, you would correct your story. You can edit your comments at fff.net, you know. I would if I were you, but you voted for Trump, so you don't care.

What did Joe Biden actually do in Ukraine? Here is more than a 29 word story. All of them are true:

When Russia invaded Ukraine in early 2014, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. pressed President Barack Obama to take decisive action, and fast, to make Moscow “pay in blood and money” for its aggression. The president, a Biden aide recalled, was having none of it.

Mr. Biden worked Mr. Obama during their weekly private lunches, imploring him to increase lethal aid, backing a push to ship FGM-148 Javelin anti-tank missiles to Kiev. The president flatly rejected the idea and dispatched him to the region as an emissary, cautioning him “about not overpromising to the Ukrainian government,” Mr. Biden would later write in a memoir.

So, Mr. Biden threw himself into what seemed like standard-issue vice-presidential stuff: prodding Ukraine’s leaders to tackle the rampant corruption that made their country a risky bet for international lenders — and pushing reform of Ukraine’s cronyism-ridden energy industry.

“You have to be whiter than snow, or the whole world will abandon you,” Mr. Biden told the country’s newly elected president, Petro O. Poroshenko, during an early 2014 phone call, according to former administration officials.

That message was delivered just as Mr. Biden’s son Hunter joined the board of a Ukrainian gas company that was the subject of multiple corruption investigations, a position that paid him as much as $50,000 a month and — in the view of some administration officials, including the ambassador to Kiev — threatened to undermine Mr. Biden’s agenda.

Thanks to President Trump and his lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, that subplot has now swallowed the story line. Their efforts to press Ukrainian officials to investigate unsubstantiated charges against the Bidens have propelled Mr. Trump to the brink of impeachment. They have also put Mr. Biden on the defensive at a critical moment in the Democratic presidential primary campaign. As the impeachment hearings go public this week, the Republicans are hoping to redirect the spotlight onto the Bidens.

A look at what the former vice president actually did in Ukraine (he visited six times and spent hours on the phone with the country’s leaders) tells a different story, according to interviews with more than two dozen people knowledgeable about the situation. It casts light on one of Mr. Biden’s central arguments for himself in the primary: his eight years of diplomacy as Mr. Obama’s No. 2.

Hundreds of more true words at www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/us/politics/joe-biden-ukraine.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 7:14 PM

I don't edit my comments at fff.net for any reason.

I have, however, posted new ones to say that I was wrong about something.


Editing history is what you guys do. I don't work for the Ministry of Truth, Big Bro.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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