How to betray democracy (Brexit)
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Two more reasons for the UK to leave the EU... Article 11 and Article 13.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/article-13-what-eu-copyright-directive
-means-for-the-internet.html
I'm sure Capt'n Crunch doesn't agree. He loves censorship.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Two more reasons for the UK to leave the EU... Article 11 and Article 13.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/article-13-what-eu-copyright-directive
-means-for-the-internet.html
I'm sure Capt'n Crunch doesn't agree. He loves censorship.
Yes, I'm pro banning/censoring pedophiles from posting in young people's forums as they look to pick up children, and you're not - I guess we just disagree. Takes a lot of courage to stand up for the free speech rights of pedophiles, more than I have!
Article 15 is great - Google poaches content from others without paying a dime and in return they profit. That's bs.
17 - I can't even imagine how anyone could pull off filtering for stolen/unlicensed copyright material as it's being uploaded, so that's in the "too soon to tell" bucket.
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Whether May stays or goes, whether Britain proposes a new treaty or not, and ready or not, the EU says it will be done with Britain by April 12.
Another referendum is not possible in that timeline.
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A few interesting events:
The most "remain" if the Tories, Dominic Grieve, was "deselected" by his constituents a few days ago, which mean he and his vote have been removed from Parliament by a petition signed by 38,000 of his constituents. For all of those MPs who're thinking about voting "remain" (basically voting for Theresa May's plan) against the wishes of their constituents ... which is a helluvalot of MPs ... Grieve's head on a pike also serves as a timely warning about what might happen to them, if they should fail to follow their constituent's wishes.
The German FM called Bexit a "shitshow" which is a big change in attitude. German business and banking want Britain to remain (Britain is Germany's largest export market for cars) but the EU as a whole is taking a very hard line on Brexit, unwilling to offer concessions to Britain (so far). I think that maybe this was a bit of a game of "chicken" and the EU leaders never thought Britain might actually crash out of the EU. I wonder if the EU Council will throw Theresa May a last minute lifeline. Somehow, I don't think so.
Some say Brexit is being driven by the EU's immigration policies; Brits would be happy to remain in the customs union if they didn't have to accept so many Easttern European immigrants.
Some also say that Theresa May will put her (Merkel's) plan up for a fourth vote, hoping that with a "no deal Brexit" staring them in the face, MP's will come around. (But then, they have the Grieve example staring at them)
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Two more reasons for the UK to leave the EU... Article 11 and Article 13.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/article-13-what-eu-copyright-directive
-means-for-the-internet.html
I'm sure Capt'n Crunch doesn't agree. He loves censorship.
Yes, I'm pro banning/censoring pedophiles from posting in young people's forums as they look to pick up children, and you're not - I guess we just disagree. Takes a lot of courage to stand up for the free speech rights of pedophiles, more than I have!
Article 15 is great - Google poaches content from others without paying a dime and in return they profit. That's bs.
17 - I can't even imagine how anyone could pull off filtering for stolen/unlicensed copyright material as it's being uploaded, so that's in the "too soon to tell" bucket.
Did Jack find another way to support pedophiles? What a perv...
T
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Two more reasons for the UK to leave the EU... Article 11 and Article 13.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/28/article-13-what-eu-copyright-directive
-means-for-the-internet.html
I'm sure Capt'n Crunch doesn't agree. He loves censorship.
Yes, I'm pro banning/censoring pedophiles from posting in young people's forums as they look to pick up children, and you're not - I guess we just disagree. Takes a lot of courage to stand up for the free speech rights of pedophiles, more than I have!
Article 15 is great - Google poaches content from others without paying a dime and in return they profit. That's bs.
17 - I can't even imagine how anyone could pull off filtering for stolen/unlicensed copyright material as it's being uploaded, so that's in the "too soon to tell" bucket.
Did Jack find another way to support pedophiles? What a perv...
T
Nah. Capt'n is just salty I kicked his ass in an argument again. He's taking a false equivalency he tried using against me regarding censorship (which he brought up pedophilia twice in the debate, BTW) and posting his shit about it all over the forum.
By my count, that's the 5th unsolicited time he's brought up pedophilia in the RWED in as many days.
I'd suggest somebody investigate him if it wasn't already known that he's just an idiot.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Brits just don't have their fair share of Terrorism yet, they need to stay in the EU until they do.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A few interesting events:
The most "remain" if the Tories, Dominic Grieve, was "deselected" by his constituents a few days ago, which mean he and his vote have been removed from Parliament by a petition signed by 38,000 of his constituents. For all of those MPs who're thinking about voting "remain" (basically voting for Theresa May's plan) against the wishes of their constituents ... which is a helluvalot of MPs ... Grieve's head on a pike also serves as a timely warning about what might happen to them, if they should fail to follow their constituent's wishes.
The German FM called Bexit a "shitshow" which is a big change in attitude. German business and banking want Britain to remain (Britain is Germany's largest export market for cars) but the EU as a whole is taking a very hard line on Brexit, unwilling to offer concessions to Britain (so far). I think that maybe this was a bit of a game of "chicken" and the EU leaders never thought Britain might actually crash out of the EU. I wonder if the EU Council will throw Theresa May a last minute lifeline. Somehow, I don't think so.
Some say Brexit is being driven by the EU's immigration policies; Brits would be happy to remain in the customs union if they didn't have to accept so many Easttern European immigrants.
Some also say that Theresa May will put her (Merkel's) plan up for a fourth vote, hoping that with a "no deal Brexit" staring them in the face, MP's will come around. (But then, they have the Grieve example staring at them.
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The EU blinked and agreed to a six-month extension of negotiations. This follows the EU pattern of "If you don't like the results of the vote keep on holding votes until you get the result that you like"
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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One of the threads wandered into 'Ukrainian vote' territory. I'll be dipped if I can find it.
Speaking of votes - in the Ukraine the comedian won a landslide vote over the incumbent US's hand-picked leader. With any luck, that means a change from US-maideservant policy (aided and abetted by Ukrainian Nazis) to one more reflective of the welfare of Ukrainian people.
WaPo
Comedian is elected president of Ukraine, exit poll shows
Volodymyr Zelensky, who plays the country’s president in a television show, has secured an apparent landslide win over incumbent Petro Poroshenko.
By Anton Troianovski3 hours ago
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The thought of Martin Sheen elected as President almost made me vomit.
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