Boeing 737 Max
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https://onemileatatime.com/airlines-ground-737-max/
03/11/2019
Less than 24 hours after the Ethiopian Airlines incident, China banned domestic airlines from operating the 737 MAX, meaning that nearly 100 737 MAX aircraft are grounded in China.
To my knowledge, Cayman Airways has become the first airline to voluntarily ground the 737 MAX. The airline has two of these planes in their fleet.
Indonesia has become the second country after China to temporarily ground the 737 MAX (Garuda Indonesia and Lion Air).
FlyDubai has said that they “remain confident in the airworthiness of [their] fleet”
American, has said that they “have full confidence in the aircraft and [their] crew members, who are the best and most experienced in the industry”
Quote:
https://www.rt.com/business/453628-boeing-countries-ground-reject/
03/12/2019
countries / authorities grounding the 737 MAX
European Union restricted the 737 MAX from its airspace
UK, France, Germany, Austria, Ireland, the Netherlands, Norway and Belgium
Ethiopian Airlines (government owned)
China's Civil Aviation Administration
Indonesia
Oman closed its airports
Indian Directorate General of Civil Aviation grounded and closed airspace
Mongolia's Civil Aviation Authority
Royal Air Maroc (nationally owned)
The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore ban flights into and out of Singapore
Vietnam / Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam (CAAV) closed airspace
Australia's Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) ban flights into and out of Australia
The United Arab Emirates General Civil Aviation Authority
Aerolíneas Argentinas (government owned)
Russian Airlines
airlines voluntarily grounding 737 MAX
Cayman Airways
South Africa's Comair Airways
Eastar Jet Korea
Aeromexico
Quote:At least 3 US airlines and 2 Canadian ones did NOT ground the 737 MAX voluntarily.
03/12/2019
https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/uae/flydubai-grounds-boeing-737-max-fle
et/ar-BBUGEi0
Dubai General Aviation authority grounds FlyDubai 737s
Quote:It looks like 5 public companies, Cayman Airways, Sunwing of Canada, South Africa's Comair Airways, Eastar Jet Korea, and Aeromexico, voluntarily grounded the plane. All others grounded were due to government / agency action.
https://onemileatatime.com/canada-grounds-737-max/
Well, Canada has now banned the Boeing 737 MAX from their airspace. This means that Air Canada and WestJet are being forced to ground their planes — Sunwing already voluntarily did so earlier today.
Every single major 737 MAX operator is now grounded — either voluntarily or due to decisions by the government — except those in the US.
That means at this point American, Southwest, and United 737 MAX aircraft are the only ones continuing to fly. It’s the US against the world, it seems…
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Quote:Very interesting. Sunwing and Aeromexico. Not sure of the territory/range of Cayman.
Originally posted by rue:Quote:
https://onemileatatime.com/airlines-ground-737-max/
03/11/2019
Less than 24 hours after the Ethiopian Airlines incident, China banned domestic airlines from operating the 737 MAX, meaning that nearly 100 737 MAX aircraft are grounded in China.
To my knowledge, Cayman Airways has become the first airline to voluntarily ground the 737 MAX. The airline has two of these planes in their fleet.
Indonesia has become the second country after China to temporarily ground the 737 MAX (Garuda Indonesia and Lion Air).
FlyDubai has said that they “remain confident in the airworthiness of [their] fleet”
American, has said that they “have full confidence in the aircraft and [their] crew members, who are the best and most experienced in the industry”Quote:
https://www.rt.com/business/453628-boeing-countries-ground-reject/
03/12/2019
countries / authorities grounding the 737 MAX
European Union restricted the 737 MAX from its airspace
UK, France, Germany, Austria, Ireland, the Netherlands, Norway and Belgium
Ethiopian Airlines (government owned)
China's Civil Aviation Administration
Indonesia
Oman closed its airports
Indian Directorate General of Civil Aviation grounded and closed airspace
Mongolia's Civil Aviation Authority
Royal Air Maroc (nationally owned)
The Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore ban flights into and out of Singapore
Vietnam / Civil Aviation Authority of Vietnam (CAAV) closed airspace
Australia's Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) ban flights into and out of Australia
The United Arab Emirates General Civil Aviation Authority
Aerolíneas Argentinas (government owned)
Russian Airlines
airlines voluntarily grounding 737 MAX
Cayman Airways
South Africa's Comair Airways
Eastar Jet Korea
AeromexicoQuote:At least 3 US airlines and 2 Canadian ones did NOT ground the 737 MAX voluntarily.
03/12/2019
https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/uae/flydubai-grounds-boeing-737-max-fle
et/ar-BBUGEi0
Dubai General Aviation authority grounds FlyDubai 737sQuote:It looks like 5 public companies, Cayman Airways, Sunwing of Canada, South Africa's Comair Airways, Eastar Jet Korea, and Aeromexico, voluntarily grounded the plane. All others grounded were due to government / agency action.
https://onemileatatime.com/canada-grounds-737-max/
Well, Canada has now banned the Boeing 737 MAX from their airspace. This means that Air Canada and WestJet are being forced to ground their planes — Sunwing already voluntarily did so earlier today.
Every single major 737 MAX operator is now grounded — either voluntarily or due to decisions by the government — except those in the US.
That means at this point American, Southwest, and United 737 MAX aircraft are the only ones continuing to fly. It’s the US against the world, it seems…
Alaska apparently did not possess any 737 MAX, scheduled to take delivery this summer. They seem poised to take advantage of Boeing's need to fill orders for more 737 MAXs.
And Delta did not ground any, because they did not operate a single one. Wow. Delta has long been the Safest Airline based in America, and this could bolster that rep.
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“What do I know about branding, maybe nothing (but I did become President!), but if I were Boeing, I would FIX the Boeing 737 MAX, add some additional great features, & REBRAND the plane with a new name. No product has suffered like this one. But again, what the hell do I know?”
Indeed, what the hell?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1117736685721223168
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The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol Vox.
Does Buzzfeed News concur?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Did it involve Flying Monkeys?
Originally posted by second:
The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice
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Quote:Boeing knew that there was a problem with one of the safety features on its 737 Max planes back in 2017 – well before the Lion Air crash in October 2018 and the Ethiopian Airlines crash in March 2019. But it did not disclose the issue to airlines or safety regulators until after the Lion Air plane crashed.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did it involve Flying Monkeys?
Boeing maintains that the 737 Max was safe to fly even without the alert, which it says provides only "supplemental information." Remember the two crashes? It was NOT safe. The new disclosure on Sunday raises questions about how forthright the company has been about issues with the planes.
"We thought the disagree light worked," Jon Weaks, the president of the Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, told the Times.
More at www.npr.org/2019/05/06/720553748/boeing-knew-about-737-max-sensor-prob
lem-before-plane-crash-in-indonesia
“The issue with MCAS is there is no alert. There is nothing in the flight deck that tells you that MCAS is malfunctioning,” Peter Lemme, a former Boeing engineer, told Quartz. “See, if there’d been an MCAS light they would have have had to train for it. The minute you put an indication in there, you have to tell the pilot what to do if it goes off.”
In the absence of such an “MCAS light,” the disagree alert would have been the closest thing to a warning the system was about to misfire — that is, if pilots had been told about MCAS in the first place.
More at https://qz.com/1612370/
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It's been 2 months now, right?
I haven't heard of any of these being Ungrounded.
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I just read in a story from a month ago that the Lion Air bird had the Angle-of-Attack sensor replaced just days before the crash. I don't recall hearing of that until now.
This is interesting because it brings up the question of whther the sensor really was defective, or if the computer/indicator was the faulty component.
Most of these sensors are tested after replacement. There is a specific code assigned to parts which are found to have no errors during testing, they are Ready For Issue.
If Ethiopia Air has similar practices, the Investigation team should have been able to intercept this part and include it in their analysis. The old part was declared defective (by the Maintenance people, presumably). It was blamed for giving bad readings during flight.
The new sensor was found to have readings which were not quite accurate, and also 20 Degrees different than the old sensor.
If the error was in the connections, the connectors, the wiring between sensor, indicator, processing computer, Flight Control Computer, MCAS Computer, then it is not necessarly in the components themselves, but the way the signal is processed.
Regardless, none of the above detracts from the Fault all being laid at the feet of Boeing.
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Saw a story that Boeing had completed their software upgrade a few days ago.
Wonder how many people will take their word for it.
And how can their CEO remain in that position, after this disaster?
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