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Why Does American Military Attack/Assault?

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
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Tuesday, October 30, 2018 12:54 PM

Instead of trying to divide up the arguments as "pro" and "con", maybe we should just try to describe the goals/ motivations as best we can.

So, to get back to #4 Vietnam, I think that the reasons for our military involvement pretty much morphed from "assisting the French" to "fighting Communism". The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a fabrication, so THAT wasn't the reason!

Having dug through the various "reasons" for causing the deaths of 2-3 million people in Vietnam, "fighting Communism" seems like the emptiest, but there doesn't seem to be any other reason. The USA certainly wasn't under threat, there were no resources to speak of, the area wasn't important for shipping, it wasn't an important market and would not have been important to the banking system. There was the "domino theory" but - IMHO- the ENTIRE SE Asian territory could have "gone communist" and the USA would not suffer any significant loss.

So, unless you have any further ideas, can we tag the Vietnam war to "fighting communism"?



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Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:32 PM

Some statements are moronic almost completely incorrect


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:




it fell to America to help South Vietnam defend herself from the Chinese Communists warring as the pretense of a Sovereign Nation of North Vietnam. This would Foster and support the fledgling democracy centered in Saigon until it flourished and matured.




You are a moron at times, a real moron!

Are you still cheering the bombing of the USS Liberty btw

and what the heck are you calling yourself these days, American a US citizen or are you trying to be an Israeli Jew again or are you Le Canada with the British Royal Family are you calling yourself Canadian again?


btw a lot of your JEW BUDDIES the globalists and bankers and political psychos like Kissinger made their career on this shitshow and the lives of so many Americans


Socialism or Leftism has seduced all kinds of people from Latin America, to the Canadian Left to Africa to Arab state to the Germans of the East to the French to the Swedish, to Jewish Israeli types who were heavily involved in Marxism across Poland, Bulgaria, Russia etc

French ideas and British Empire ideas suddenly became interests of the USA, France was in Vietnam
this isn't really a Left or Right thing more of an influence and keeping old Empires alive thing, dragged into other people's wars fighting wars that are unwinnable.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: USSR used this as excuse to inflict Communism upon the peoples they were to steward, including North Vietnam, thru China. These Communists wanted to conquer more lands, including South Vietnam. As stewards of the peaceable democracy (in theory) of South Vietnam, it fell to America to help South Vietnam defend herself from the Chinese Communists warring as the pretense of a Sovereign Nation of North Vietnam. This would Foster and support the fledgling democracy centered in Saigon until it flourished and matured. In essence, defending South Vietnam from invasion of Communist North Vietnam. Supporting Liberty, Freedom, self-governance of the South.




Russia supported Vietnam's North it was not China, the Chinese were in fact against Vietnam and had their own issues with Nixon helping the Sino-Soviet split

Vietnam has had a history of rebellion and a desire for self determination for a long time, nothing got to do with the West or Capitalism or Communism, they were won of the first to defeat Genghis Khan's people who had taken most of China but Vietnam stopping the Mongol invasions of Vietnam

the USA failed to learn from the French mistakes


ask was the Gulf of Tonkin incident a hoax to drag the USA into another war...a stupid monk setting himslef on fire.


Sometimes the meddling, interventions, schemes these are done by secret society, globalist players creating chaos and wars, the KGB operated much like the CIA, there were Leftwing militia formed across the world and also a giant network of militias, movements of money, bombs, maybe drugs, maybe terrorists and 'freedom fighters' depending on how what government defined them.


The first true American war was a war against thefy, British Imperialism, taxation, independence the American Revolutionary War

Many many battles and war came after

The First Barbary War American ships now flying a new flag were no longer under protection of the British Navy so their trade and people in US ships would either have to pay ransom or tribute like the French or build a military to protect your shipping, it leads to a study of America's enemy this dead guy mahomet in the Koran or Quran and also a war with mohammedans of Tripolitania and Morocco Sultanate, the formation of the United States Marines.

There was a Canadian British loyalist invasion of Washington, D.C., the capital of the United States, during the War of 1812 where they bruned down the Whitehouse.

A war in the Carribean over ships and pirates and for a while a cessation of Franco-American alliance

Ameri

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Monday, November 5, 2018 12:52 AM

The Birthdate of the Marine Corps was 10 November 1775. They did not wait to form until 26 years later amid the First Barbary War.

When all of Washington DC was set aflame in 1812, one house was specifically not set to flame. Because of this, the House of The Commandant of The Marine Corps is on the National Historic Register. It is located on G Street, between 8th and 9th.

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Tuesday, September 17, 2024 5:59 PM

Vietnam still makes no sense

China was not Vietnam, Russia was supporting North Vietnam, the Chinese and Nixon and Kissinger indirectly supported the forming of the Khmer Rouge, Nixon approved the use of American ground forces in Cambodiato fight alongside South Vietnamese, Cambodians seized the American merchant ship Mayaguez in international waters, sparking what became known as the Mayaguez incident, the USA wanted some kind of Monarchy, Republic or Buddhism State to combat the spread of 'Commies' the United States (U.S.) voted for the Khmer Rouge and the Khmer Rouge-dominated Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea (CGDK) to retain Cambodia's United Nations (UN) seat Ford dispatched Marines to rescue the crew, but the Marines landed on the wrong island and met unexpectedly stiff resistance just as, unknown to the U.S., the Mayaguez sailors were being released...Asia policy was a confused mess, two weirdos a strange Polish Catholic Jewish Globalist American Brzezinski and Kissinger from German Jew refugees who emigrated to the United States wanted to be buddies with Cambodian tyrants, fans of Pol Pot it seems Kissinger was know in facilitating U.S. support for authoritarian regimes or to be not too far from mass deaths. Vietnamese soldiers entered Phnom Penh kicked Cambodia's ass, stopped the genocide and maybe turned out to be the 'good guys', although Pol Pot was a Cambodian communist revolutionary and Ideologically a Maoist he had become something else not Russia's tool, not China, not a puppet of the USA, not Vietnamese he was his own genocidal maniac, mountains of millions of skulls. Regan might have even supprted a Monarchy within Norodom Sihanouk or Samdech Euv , seen the end of French colonial period 1800s late from French colonial rule (until 1953), a Japanese puppet state (1945), an independent kingdom (1953–1970), a military republic (1970–1975), the Khmer Rouge regime (1975–1979), a Vietnamese-backed communist regime (1979–1989), a transitional communist regime (1989–1993) to eventually another kingdom...when coup d'état ousted him, and he fled to China and because Chinese were not radical enough he feld to the Communist Monarchy of North Korea and the CIA was on the scene after French Indo China, who wished to install a more US-friendly regime but he was closest to the original French Communists, the Parti communiste français wanted a Unitary presidential constitutional republic (de jure).



The United States (U.S.) voted for the Khmer Rouge, what madness? French were against Vietnam Communists, Kennedy was against Vietnam Communists but rumors said Kennedy would end the war, Spiro Agnew even having his visit to Cambodia, September 1970. The Carter Administration never responded to what was happening in Cambodia with a coherent appreciation of the horrors, USA Left vs USA Right it was the same thing....Reagan sought to apply the Reagan Doctrine of aiding anti-Soviet resistance movements abroad to Cambodia, which was under Vietnamese occupation after having ousted Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot kept power until 1985, Pol Pot resigned as commander-in-chief of the Khmer Rouge forces in favour of Son Sen but kept influence, it was only after the fall of the USSR and the Berlin Wall the USA no longer saw Vietnamese domination of Cambodia as an issue. By the 1990s there were factions and break away regions and Pol Pot keeping power, the new Cambodian National Army then launched an offensive against the Khmer Rouge it captured Phnom Chhat, with Pol Pot fleeing back into Thailand. He came back into Cambodia fought a while and got surrounded, the American journalist Nate Thayer conducted Pol Pot's last interview while Pol Pot was under house arrest. Pol Pot stated that his "conscience is clear" but acknowledged that mistakes were made,
Pol Pot's widow and Tep Khunnal fled to Malaysia, where they married, other Commies hated Pol Pot speaking against him. Deng Xiaoping criticised the Khmer Rouge for engaging in "deviations from

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Thursday, September 19, 2024 3:16 PM

the bully claims turf on the playground

Russian army to overtake United States as world’s second largest
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/17/russian-army-overtak
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but maybe not for long as the Ukraine meat grinder chews them up

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Sunday, June 1, 2025 1:26 PM

Bombs and Mc Donalds and Burger King and Shekels and Euro Masonic Elite investments the big Casionos and Cité de Londono ...a Merc Army or to push Democracy and Coca Cola


Norodom Sihanouk was a member of the Cambodian royal house who led the country as King, Chief of State


Cambodia crushed by French then 'free' they said a Neutral slightly pro-Western Monarchy but not Western enough, they might be smuggling something along some jungle trails and paths, let's bomb them they might support 'The Commies'...
the Monarchy even goes 'Left' stealing political thunder from the Commies and Khmer Rouge....yet more bombs! they must be supporting Vietnam Kissinger says to Nixon
... but then Commies overthrow the Monarchy,
and so everyone fucking panics so the Monarchy sides with the Khmer Rouge...who just decided to mass murder genocide...and somewhat Western backed
so Vietnamese Commies now must save them from the Khmer Rouge...an absolute shitshow, why did 'Land of the Free' get involved with any of this chaos


Cambodia’s ‘Day of Remembrance’ marks the 50th anniversary of the Khmer Rouge genocide
https://apnews.com/article/khmer-rouge-genocide-killing-field-b666fd93
76a8ab49d708d7a163385579




Killing fields, 50 years on: How the Khmer Rouge's legacy still divides Cambodia




Bankers of the World?




Ugly History: The Khmer Rouge murders - Timothy Williams




How The USA Brought Pol Pot To Power

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Saturday, March 14, 2026 2:41 AM

still very relevant

Israel hit Iran then USA decided Iranians would get blasted

Tomahawk Missile – How is it Nearly 50 Years Old and Still Going Strong?

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Trump says he can do 'anything I want' with Cuba

https://www.northweststar.com.au/story/9200793/trump-says-he-can-do-an
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Rifts over Iran, but unity for Trump: Takeaways from CPAC 2026
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President Trump Announces U.S Navy to Detain Vessels Paying Iranian Hormuz Toll
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