Kavanaugh ... now what?

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1KIKI

Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:44 AM

I never heard of the curated life, either. And I'm still not sure what it is.

As for listening to NPR ... I don't, mostly because I'm old and tired, and sometimes I just don't want to think - not even to keep track of what the neo-liberals are up to now. But there's something to be said for casting a wide net. It's far too easy to get entrenched in the rut of things you're interested in and /or agree with. I know for myself, as I scan the research rags, I could always just tunnel down on my favorite subjects. That's why I try to read 1:10 of things that either bore me to tears or that I think are an effing waste of research money and time, vs things I'm interested in, enjoy, or seem significant.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:54 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Why would any partially intelligent person intentionally listen to NPR, let alone somebody of my caliber?

Maybe so you don't drown in your own hubris?

I can't say I listen to NPR, but I do get a wide range of political opinions. It's good to listen to others, especially if you don't agree with them, I think. Otherwise it's far too easy to just listen to people you agree with and their opinions of other people's opinions.

That's how echo chambers are formed and why we're collectively in the predicament we are as a country.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:33 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Why would any partially intelligent person intentionally listen to NPR, let alone somebody of my caliber?

Maybe so you don't drown in your own hubris?

I can't say I listen to NPR, but I do get a wide range of political opinions. It's good to listen to others, especially if you don't agree with them, I think. Otherwise it's far too easy to just listen to people you agree with and their opinions of other people's opinions.

That's how echo chambers are formed and why we're collectively in the predicament we are as a country.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I really don't see the need to hear about how Sol orbits Terra. No matter how many times you want to tell me. No matter how many different ways you want to explain it. No matter how often you call it hubris.
If I want to hear more crap from Democrap Funded MSM State Media, I can just linger more when channel surfing.
Listening to you splain how Sol orbits Terra over and over again is only going to put me to sleep, and is not going to change my mind, my belief, or my thinking on the matter.
Your thinking that Facts are less valid, or Truth is less relevant than Opinions about 2+2 is 6 and 2x2 is 5 is a troubling course for you to follow.
I have already pondered the possibilities of Sol orbiting Terra, and I've run the numbers, and I feel no desire to do it again - it is a waste of my time, and I don't want to waste what I have left.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:55 PM

I'm just pointing out that you are partisan, no matter what.

You're not hostile... and I have no reason to think that you're insane, which is what we're seeing from the other side here in the RWED and on the internet in general, so I'll take it over that any day.

I just feel that you're doing yourself a disservice to limit your scope of thinking to tow the line of a party that doesn't really give a shit about us any more than the other side does. My "hubris" remark was was just a jab at you talking about somebody of "your caliber".

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIGNYM

Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:07 PM

Well, I find it easy to listen to NPR when I'm working in the kitchen. I'm on my feet, so it won't put me to sleep, and I get to hear what neo-liberals are saying now. They're an exquisite "establishment" propaganda indicator. Plus, honestly, they have a few storytelling and game shows that I really like, like Snap Judgment and Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

If I get bored with the radio I'll listen to X22 or London Paul or The Duran or whatever alt program catches my fancy, but there's something about listening to ANYthing when I'm sitting or laying down ... it just puts me to sleep!

*****

Oh, the "curated life" was a big thing a few month ago but you don't hear about it much anymore. It meant needing someone to choose your experiences for you. Or in some cases you choose your own experiences, instead of having them come at you randomly. The idea is that being "connected" all the time thru social media has led us to be faced with TOO MANY experiences, so we need to be picky about what we do. https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenrosenbaum/2015/05/10/living-the-cur
ated-life-a-framework/#52da6c68295d

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

1KIKI

Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, the "curated life" was a big thing a few month ago but you don't hear about it much anymore. It meant needing someone to choose your experiences for you. Or in some cases you choose your own experiences, instead of having them come at you randomly. The idea is that being "connected" all the time thru social media has led us to be faced with TOO MANY experiences, so we need to be picky about what we do.

Well, since I don't 'do' social media, it helps!

And wow - what a stultifying life! Being cocooned in a carefully selected set of experiences. I'm feeling claustrophobic just thinking about it!

1KIKI

Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:52 PM

But back to the topic.

Is it my imagination, or have democrats been awfully quiet post-Kavanaugh?

In fact, since the election, politically, aside from occasional harping about the ignorable RUSSIA !!! election interference, they've offered no political push-back in Congress. (They seem to be hoping the Deep State does the political work for them.) They've voiced no alternative plans. They've formulated no opposing ethic or stance.

It's like they go down a deep hole and disappear after a defeat. Where are they? Do they HAVE a post-Kavanaugh plan?

Maybe I need to listen to NPR.

SIGNYM

Sunday, October 14, 2018 1:08 PM

I think SOME Democrats ... maybe even most of them ... are as livid as they ever were. But I noticed that SECOND and REAVERFAN and even THUGR have been noticeably absent from this site. Aside from a few token personal attacks at the beginning of the Kavanaugh thread, THUGR completely bailed on the topic, and SECOND seems to have bailed afterwards.

I know the Democratic PARTY (DNC) has suddenly shifted to being the party of "reason". Except for a few forays into RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!! they seem bound and determined to talk about mandated coverage for pre-existing conditions, but this does not at all reflect the POV of their committed base, which they've whipped up into a white-hot with rage.

I read an article (somewhere) about what the Dems would do if they won the House. Most of them were kitchen-table issues with the exception of waving the RUSSIA!! flag once. They didn't even talk impeachment. I'm all on-board with almost everything they propose (health care, infrastructure, environment) but they did not address the issues that led ME to vote for Trump, which were: making nice with Russia (and by extension ending our endless wars and beginning to withdraw our troops and bases from abroad), illegal immigration, and "free trade". I think these are MORE important than the others (in other words, we can't solve the other issues until we solve these first.)

It's kind of a shame that liberals seem to have held onto their hate and can't even talk about where we might find agreement, because unless we come together we'll never solve ANYthing.

And then, there's always this ...

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"Bring Your Rage": Brooklyn Witches To Hex Kavanaugh, Rapists And Patriarchy In Occult Ritual

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-13/bring-your-rage-brooklyn-wit
ches-hex-kavanaugh-rapists-and-patriarchy-occult-ritual

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

SECOND

Sunday, October 14, 2018 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But hey I just had a great idea! How about, after Kavanaugh, we agree to post without the words Democrat or Republican, man or woman, white or not, gay or straight, or any of the other words that divide us. The only valid description is American.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

Would you also ban the words California, Texas, Florida, New York because the only valid description is Americans? America is not united. It is 50 different governments jammed close together, except for Alaska and Hawaii and, maybe someday, Puerto Rico.

And those 50 to 51 states are in competition with one another. That competition effects the citizens. To make that easier to understand, consider the competition between construction companies for building a petrochemical plant in Texas.

Several companies want to build that plant, but only one will win. Do the engineers say we are all simply engineers and congratulate the lucky engineers at the winning bidder? No. They are bitter that they lost. The more ambitious engineers quit the losers and go work for the winner where the new work is to be found. You see the same dynamic between the states as is seen between construction companies.

The more ambitious citizens switch states, leaving embittered losers behind in places like W Virginia. Does rich Virginia reach out to help poor West Virginia with money? Hell, no! If a hillbilly wants help, move to Virginia. Or beg for help from the Federal government and vote Trump. Maybe he will get you a job in a W Virginia coalmine. Or maybe he won’t. But you can be sure that the legislature of Virginia will not willingly help West Virginia. There is nothing that the Virginia legislature budgeted to send to the next state as charity. Help will have to be ripped off of the rich Virginians by the Federal government and given to the poor West Virginians. There will be significant resentment. And saying that we are all Americans does not reduce that resentment so long as there are 50 states that are not generous and do not have state legislatures willing to share their wealth with other states.

The US Senate reinforces that separation between the states because dinky little failure W Virginia has the same amount of power in the Senate as does huge and successful California. It is a system custom designed by James Madison to make large states bitter at small states robbing the rich states.

Afterthought: Kavanaugh will move the Constitutional interpretation back in the direction of The Articles of Confederation, which had a particularly weak central government – one that was subordinated to the individual states. And indeed under the Articles, the states regarded themselves as sovereign nations, which they essentially were.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, October 14, 2018 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

It's kind of a shame that liberals seem to have held onto their hate and can't even talk about where we might find agreement, because unless we come together we'll never solve ANYthing.

Liberals, at least in the traditional sense of the word, have been pretty quiet since Trump was elected. The extreme Left that you hear from all over the internet make up about 8% of the electorate.

First thing you should be doing, as should everyone else, is to stop using the blanket term Liberal for anybody left of center. SGG and J0 are the closest things we have here to classical Liberals in the RWED that haven't at least somewhat defected to the other side for one reason or another. I think J0 knows this. Not sure that SGG does. He seems to drink some of the koolaid on occasion, but is more or less reasonable.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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