Trump wants to eliminate Due Process
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:HOWEVER, You must be in the USA LEGALLY. These rules do NOT apply to illegal aliens.
If you are eligible for asylum you may be permitted to remain in the United States. To apply for Asylum, file a Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, within one year of your arrival
I deleted the rest of your post because you misrepresent the facts by omitting what we know to be true. Your are not here illegally if you come looking for help. What you've posted here is wrong and what I post below is why you are wrong.
This Obama-era pilot program kept asylum-seeking migrant families together. Trump canceled it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/obama-era-
pilot-program-kept-asylum-seeking-migrant-families-together-n885896
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umented-illegal-immigrant-stay.html
Entering the United States without approval is illegal. So is staying in the U.S. without permission after your visa or other authorized stay has expired. Even violating the terms of a legal entry can make your stay illegal.
The U.S. immigration law offers very few options to go from being illegal or undocumented immigrant to a U.S. permanent resident (with a green card).
You can apply for the right to stay in the U.S. if you qualify for asylum and apply within one year of your entry or the expiration of your authorized stay. You’ll need to show that you have been persecuted, or fear future persecution, in your home country, based on your race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. The process involves submitting an application, together with detailed documentation of your membership in the group that you claim and the persecution that you faced or fear. If you are granted asylum, you can apply for a green card one year after your approval, and for U.S. citizenship four years after that. (If denied, you will be deported.).
https://immigration.findlaw.com/visas/immigration-through-adjustment-o
f-immigrant-status.html
Those wishing to adjust to immigrant status must physically be present in the U.S. and must have entered the U.S. legally (with some exceptions, including battered family members). Whether or not you are eligible to adjust your status is determined by your basis to immigrate (detailed below): ie, whether it is family based, employment based, part of a humanitarian program, or a special case (see instructions for Form I-360 for more details).
But while you're here in the US illegally, the government reserves the right to detain you.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-stat
es
Defensive Asylum: A person who is in removal proceedings may apply for asylum defensively by filing the application with an immigration judge at the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) in the Department of Justice. In other words, asylum is applied for “as a defense against removal from the U.S.” Unlike the criminal court system, EOIR does not provide appointed counsel for individuals in immigration court, even if they are unable to retain an attorney on their own.
While U.S. law provides arriving asylum seekers the right to be in the United States while their claim for protection is pending, the government has argued that it has the right to detain such individuals.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/legal-options-undoc
umented-illegal-immigrant-stay.html
Entering the United States without approval is illegal. So is staying in the U.S. without permission after your visa or other authorized stay has expired. Even violating the terms of a legal entry can make your stay illegal.
The U.S. immigration law offers very few options to go from being illegal or undocumented immigrant to a U.S. permanent resident (with a green card).
You can apply for the right to stay in the U.S. if you qualify for asylum and apply within one year of your entry or the expiration of your authorized stay. You’ll need to show that you have been persecuted, or fear future persecution, in your home country, based on your race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. The process involves submitting an application, together with detailed documentation of your membership in the group that you claim and the persecution that you faced or fear. If you are granted asylum, you can apply for a green card one year after your approval, and for U.S. citizenship four years after that. (If denied, you will be deported.).
https://immigration.findlaw.com/visas/immigration-through-adjustment-o
f-immigrant-status.html
Those wishing to adjust to immigrant status must physically be present in the U.S. and must have entered the U.S. legally (with some exceptions, including battered family members). Whether or not you are eligible to adjust your status is determined by your basis to immigrate (detailed below): ie, whether it is family based, employment based, part of a humanitarian program, or a special case (see instructions for Form I-360 for more details).
But while you're here in the US illegally, the government reserves the right to detain you.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-stat
es
Defensive Asylum: A person who is in removal proceedings may apply for asylum defensively by filing the application with an immigration judge at the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) in the Department of Justice. In other words, asylum is applied for “as a defense against removal from the U.S.” Unlike the criminal court system, EOIR does not provide appointed counsel for individuals in immigration court, even if they are unable to retain an attorney on their own.
While U.S. law provides arriving asylum seekers the right to be in the United States while their claim for protection is pending, the government has argued that it has the right to detain such individuals.
This Obama-era pilot program kept asylum-seeking migrant families together. Trump canceled it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/obama-era-
pilot-program-kept-asylum-seeking-migrant-families-together-n885896
And remember this. Our government can not keep these children incarcerated for more than two more weeks I believe.
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A person who has made illegal entry may apply for asylum. However, the US reserves the right to detain that person while determining his/ her status. If the status is determined to be ineligible, that person may be deported immediately, at the discretion of relevant officials. That person also becomes permanently ineligible for any type of legal stay in the US in the future.
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/legal-options-undoc
umented-illegal-immigrant-stay.html
Entering the United States without approval is illegal. So is staying in the U.S. without permission after your visa or other authorized stay has expired. Even violating the terms of a legal entry can make your stay illegal.
The U.S. immigration law offers very few options to go from being illegal or undocumented immigrant to a U.S. permanent resident (with a green card).
You can apply for the right to stay in the U.S. if you qualify for asylum and apply within one year of your entry or the expiration of your authorized stay. You’ll need to show that you have been persecuted, or fear future persecution, in your home country, based on your race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. The process involves submitting an application, together with detailed documentation of your membership in the group that you claim and the persecution that you faced or fear. If you are granted asylum, you can apply for a green card one year after your approval, and for U.S. citizenship four years after that. (If denied, you will be deported.).
https://immigration.findlaw.com/visas/immigration-through-adjustment-o
f-immigrant-status.html
Those wishing to adjust to immigrant status must physically be present in the U.S. and must have entered the U.S. legally (with some exceptions, including battered family members). Whether or not you are eligible to adjust your status is determined by your basis to immigrate (detailed below): ie, whether it is family based, employment based, part of a humanitarian program, or a special case (see instructions for Form I-360 for more details).
But while you're here in the US illegally, the government reserves the right to detain you.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-stat
es
Defensive Asylum: A person who is in removal proceedings may apply for asylum defensively by filing the application with an immigration judge at the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) in the Department of Justice. In other words, asylum is applied for “as a defense against removal from the U.S.” Unlike the criminal court system, EOIR does not provide appointed counsel for individuals in immigration court, even if they are unable to retain an attorney on their own.
While U.S. law provides arriving asylum seekers the right to be in the United States while their claim for protection is pending, the government has argued that it has the right to detain such individuals.
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Ahhh, what's the matter kiki. Don't like me posting proof you are wrong so you are going to keep reposting without my response?
Perhaps things would go better for you if you stop trying to defend the indefensible.
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Quote:You deleted the rest of my post because YOU misrepresented the facts. Specifically, YOU POSTED that I supported separating families, something that I clearly and frequently disagreed with, and I pointed out your "error" in that post.
I deleted the rest of your post because you misrepresent the facts - THUGR
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
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Quote:The bar is set pretty high for asylum applications after illegal entry, and the penalties are pretty stiff to discourage its casual use.
A person who has made illegal entry may apply for asylum. However, the US reserves the right to detain that person while determining his/ her status. If the status is determined to be ineligible, that person may be deported immediately, at the discretion of relevant officials. That person also becomes permanently ineligible for any type of legal stay in the US in the future.
A person may also apply for a visitor visa, which allows them a 90-day stay in the USA. There is no reason for tens of thousands of people to jump the border. There might be a few cases where a person has been threatened by his or her government and is in imminent danger, but most of the people who come across illegally don't need to, and probably wouldn't qualify for political asylum anyway.
The point is, there are alternate "lines" for people to stand in. The cases where illegal entry is permissible are few and far between.
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Pity would be no more,
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As long as you insist that everything is the Republicans'/ Democrats' fault, then you fail to grasp the REAL problem with American politics.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/obama-era-
pilot-program-kept-asylum-seeking-migrant-families-together-n885896
According to The Associated Press, cost the government $36 per day per family. By the end, it served 954 people in total, according to a 2017 Department of Homeland Security Inspector General report.
According to the Inspector General report, overall compliance in the five cities where the pilot was launched was 99 percent for ICE check-ins and appointments, and 100 percent for attendance in court hearings. Just 2 percent of participants absconded during the process.
ICE said it canceled the program because it was too expensive compared to other monitoring methods ...
“After a review of the Family Case Management Program (FCMP), ICE discontinued the program in June 2017. The rates of compliance for FCMP were consistent with other monitoring options ICE exercises under Alternatives to Detention (ATD), which proved to be a much better use of limited resources,” ICE spokesperson Sarah Rodriguez told NBC News in a statement.
A second ICE spokesman added that the other ATD methods also had a compliance rate of over 99 percent, too. Those cost between $5 and $7 a day per adult.
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Meanwhile ...
A person who has made illegal entry may apply for asylum. However, the US reserves the right to detain that person while determining his/ her status. If the status is determined to be ineligible, that person may be deported immediately, at the discretion of relevant officials. That person also becomes permanently ineligible for any type of legal stay in the US in the future.
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/legal-options-undoc
umented-illegal-immigrant-stay.html
Entering the United States without approval is illegal. So is staying in the U.S. without permission after your visa or other authorized stay has expired. Even violating the terms of a legal entry can make your stay illegal.
The U.S. immigration law offers very few options to go from being illegal or undocumented immigrant to a U.S. permanent resident (with a green card).
You can apply for the right to stay in the U.S. if you qualify for asylum and apply within one year of your entry or the expiration of your authorized stay. You’ll need to show that you have been persecuted, or fear future persecution, in your home country, based on your race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. The process involves submitting an application, together with detailed documentation of your membership in the group that you claim and the persecution that you faced or fear. If you are granted asylum, you can apply for a green card one year after your approval, and for U.S. citizenship four years after that. (If denied, you will be deported.).
https://immigration.findlaw.com/visas/immigration-through-adjustment-o
f-immigrant-status.html
Those wishing to adjust to immigrant status must physically be present in the U.S. and must have entered the U.S. legally (with some exceptions, including battered family members). Whether or not you are eligible to adjust your status is determined by your basis to immigrate (detailed below): ie, whether it is family based, employment based, part of a humanitarian program, or a special case (see instructions for Form I-360 for more details).
But while you're here in the US illegally, the government reserves the right to detain you.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/asylum-united-stat
es
Defensive Asylum: A person who is in removal proceedings may apply for asylum defensively by filing the application with an immigration judge at the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) in the Department of Justice. In other words, asylum is applied for “as a defense against removal from the U.S.” Unlike the criminal court system, EOIR does not provide appointed counsel for individuals in immigration court, even if they are unable to retain an attorney on their own.
While U.S. law provides arriving asylum seekers the right to be in the United States while their claim for protection is pending, the government has argued that it has the right to detain such individuals.
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Wow kiki, lucky for you Trump wasn't president when your father came here after being kicked out of Poland and then England. Yep, lucky for you he was allowed to stay here, aye kiki?
So, given your family history why are you such a bitch to others seeking asylum?
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