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KPO
Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:19 PM

I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.

New analysis on the gunning down of protesters in 2014 implicates (shock) Yanukovich's security forces:

Check out the video: https://www.nytimes.com/video/magazine/100000005838140/did-ukrainian-p
olice-kill-protesters-videos-may-reveal-the-answer.html?smid=tw-share

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KPO
Saturday, June 2, 2018 8:28 PM

Investigators blame Russian military unit in Ukraine for shootdown of MH17 (298 people on board):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/24/mh17-downed-by-russian-m
ilitary-missile-system-say-investigators


Just another "Russia scare story".

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Sunday, June 3, 2018 12:34 AM

Which other thread are you talking about? Either thread ID #, or thread title and last date updated?

Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Investigators blame Russian military unit in Ukraine for shootdown of MH17 (298 people on board):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/24/mh17-downed-by-russian-m
ilitary-missile-system-say-investigators


Just another "Russia scare story"

Your first and last sentences seem contradictory. Is one of them intended to be sarcasm? Please clarify your meaning.

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JJ
Sunday, June 3, 2018 1:27 AM

While you're at it KPO, ask SIG if Russia should give back Crimea.

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Sunday, June 3, 2018 4:00 AM

krappo - why do you post links when anyone can look up the info and find out you're lying?

The story didn't say the Russians did anything, only that the equipment was originally based in Kursk.

Furthermore, FROM YOUR LINK: "Two years ago, prosecutors said there were about 100 people under suspicion of direct or indirect involvement. On Thursday, Westerbeke said that number had come down to several dozen, but he declined to name them."

OBVIOUSLY, if we had believed your story from two years ago, we would have believed about 100 people were guilty, when it turns out 100-several dozen were not. And which innocent people will be further absolved as the process continues? And who will be found not guilty?

Do you think you could let an actual system of justice prevail, instead of constantly agitating for a lynching?




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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JJ
Monday, June 4, 2018 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:

While you're at it KPO, ask SIG if Russia should give back Crimea.



Yep KPO, she ran for the hills.

T

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Monday, June 4, 2018 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.



Yeah, we're like day 200 of the Donetsk airport siege around here, maybe even later - some user accounts either deleted or mucked with, etc. Twitter says it was Kiki or Siggy's fault, and who am I to disagree with Twitter? < / joke >

BTW - Did you know that Putin has won? That the Putin Referendum, "There are no such things as facts anymore." is now a fact? So you can't really prove anything anywhere any how, not MH-17 or Ukraine *blank* - and I think it is going save us all so much time. As long as their are no methods by which to hold anyone accountable there is no accountability, and without accountability there are no Lies or Truths. So have at it! Today a little thuggery, tomorrow adopt a lost pet - no difference. Honestly, don't you feel relieved not to have to understand the difference?

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JJ
Monday, June 4, 2018 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:

I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.



Yeah, we're like day 200 of the Donetsk airport siege around here, maybe even later - some user accounts either deleted or mucked with, etc. Twitter says it was Kiki or Siggy's fault, and who am I to disagree with Twitter? < / joke >

BTW - Did you know that Putin has won? That the Putin Referendum, "There are no such things as facts anymore." is now a fact? So you can't really prove anything anywhere any how, not MH-17 or Ukraine *blank* - and I think it is going save us all so much time. As long as their are no methods by which to hold anyone accountable there is no accountability, and without accountability there are no Lies or Truths. So have at it! Today a little thuggery, tomorrow adopt a lost pet - no difference. Honestly, don't you feel relieved not to have to understand the difference?



And isn't it funny guys how those who practice ignorance for plausible deniability sake, Jack, or SIG who changes text ever so slightly when she posts others reporting. Or reposts what other trolls post on the internet suggesting she doesn't necessarily agree, but does find it interesting. Or kiki who like the others follow a pro Russian anti American rhetoric, cry incessantly and yell fowl when others express their disgust with them.

T

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Monday, June 4, 2018 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:And isn't it funny guys how those who practice ignorance for plausible deniability sake, Jack, or SIG who changes text ever so slightly when she posts others reporting. Or reposts what other trolls post on the internet suggesting she doesn't necessarily agree, but does find it interesting. Or kiki who like the others follow a pro Russian anti American rhetoric, cry incessantly and yell fowl when others express their disgust with them.



I look forward to when we can bridge the gap between biology and digital, so we could plug someone in and look over their code and go, "there, right there! That's where they decided being a lying sack was the best option."

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JJ
Monday, June 4, 2018 8:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:And isn't it funny guys how those who practice ignorance for plausible deniability sake, Jack, or SIG who changes text ever so slightly when she posts others reporting. Or reposts what other trolls post on the internet suggesting she doesn't necessarily agree, but does find it interesting. Or kiki who like the others follow a pro Russian anti American rhetoric, cry incessantly and yell fowl when others express their disgust with them.



I look forward to when we can bridge the gap between biology and digital, so we could plug someone in and look over their code and go, "there, right there! That's where they decided being a lying sack was the best option."



Funny G. Made me spill my coffee.

T

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