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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm not lower class.

I'm just middle-class with very little ambition and zero desire to screw other people over for my own financial gain.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I was going to let this pass, but decided not to. 6ixStringJack, you dropped below the income cutoff line. People think they are middle-class, whether they make $22k or $200k. The article for you is Everybody Thinks They Are Middle-class.
www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-america-divided/middle-class/

Then there is 6ixStringJack's revealing self-confession, most definitely not Middle-Class:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60807&mid=10513
82#1051382
Quote:


It's scary what drugs can do to you. And no, I'm not talking about weed...

I've done cocaine 7 times in my life. Managed to say no to it until my 24th birthday, but finally gave in that night for some reason even though it had been around me all the time for 5 or 6 years before then.

I never did anything particularly stupid while on it, but when you're brain is shooting mega doses of serotonin into your system, everything you think sounds like the best idea in the world. I can't even imagine what the more hardcore drugs like Crack and Meth and any of these other drugs made from cooking pharmaceuticals will do to you.

Fortunately for me, I made it a point to never befriend any dealers so it wasn't readily available to me at any time. Even more fortunate that unlike some of my friends who regularly did it, I would crash extremely hard and be useless for a day or two afterward so even though it was pretty much the most amazing feeling in the world I would say no unless I was stupid drunk and didn't have any plans for the weekend, which was pretty rare back in those days.

This guy probably wasn't a genius before he got involved with them, but it might not be a question of intelligence here.

I know that you're as straight edged as they come, JSF, so you couldn't possibly understand.

I'm certainly not advocating anybody use any hard core drugs or condoning this behavior. Just giving a different perspective on the issue.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ixStringJack's making of such a confession is a definitive example of Non-Middle-Class behavior.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:07 PM

Okay, SECOND ... speaking of slow learners ... what does your posting this article tell us about YOU?

Well, you hate Republicans with a passion. It's more than a passion, it's an idée fixe with you, an obsession that you return to over and over:

Republicans - especially Texas (boo hiss) Republicans - are unspeakably evil and incapable of learning. And Trump belongs in a class of contempt all his own, but Democrats will save the day!

But apparently, according to the article, Trump is killing the GOP chances this election. So the logical conclusion is that you should LIKE Trump, because he is damaging the GOP, even more than the Democrats could. He might not be your friend, but a force for change .... in some fashion, even a force for good.

Now, why might you not be able to process that?


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America is an oligarchy
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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, SECOND ... speaking of slow learners ... what does your posting this article tell us about YOU?

Well, you hate Republicans with a passion. It's more than a passion, it's an idée fixe with you, an obsession that you return to over and over:

Republicans - especially Texas

boo hiss Republicans - are unspeakably evil and incapable of learning. And Trump belongs in a class of contempt all his own, but Democrats will save the day!

But apparently, according to the article, Trump is killing the GOP chances this election. So the logical conclusion is that you should LIKE Trump, because he is damaging the GOP, even more than the Democrats could. He might not be your friend, but a force for change .... in some fashion, even a force for good.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876


Unless the Congressman in the story was a journalistic invention, that Congressman was saying some truths about Trump that Signym and other voters for Trump ought to know. I've known Trump-like characters in Texas. I would never do a second business deal with them because they break their promises, but Trump voters don't have much common sense about untrustworthy people. They talk about Trump as a "loose cannon" that will "drain the swamp". But Trump is not what his voters imagine he is.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:23 PM

Lets say Trump killz the GoP. I mean gon!

Without an opponent, wut will happen to the Democratic party?

Will it break into factionz? Will it fade away az voterz pick candidates based only on their pozitionz and qualificationz?

Or will another party fill the vacuum left by the GoP, providing the essential opozition?

Or maybe the Demz will take America to a new level uv sivilization without the so-called conservativ ball & chain holding them back.

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:25 PM

Quote:

Okay, SECOND ... speaking of slow learners ... what does your posting this article tell us about YOU?

Well, you hate Republicans with a passion. It's more than a passion, it's an idée fixe with you, an obsession that you return to over and over:

Republicans - especially Texas boo hiss Republicans - are unspeakably evil and incapable of learning. And Trump belongs in a class of contempt all his own, but Democrats will save the day!

But apparently, according to the article, Trump is killing the GOP chances this election. So the logical conclusion is that you should LIKE Trump, because he is damaging the GOP, even more than the Democrats could. He might not be your friend, but a force for change .... in some fashion, even a force for good. - SIGNY

Unless the Congressman in the story was a journalistic invention, that Congressman was saying some truths about Trump that Signym and other voters for Trump ought to know. I've known Trump-like characters in Texas. I would never do a second business deal with them because they break their promises, but Trump voters don't have much common sense about untrustworthy people. They talk about Trump as a "loose cannon" that will "drain the swamp". But Trump is never what his voters imagine he is.- SECOND



So, this all seems to be about you hating people ... who do you hate more? Trump? Or the GOP? Because they don't seem to be going in exactly the same direction.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Lets say Trump killz the GoP. I mean gon!

Or maybe the Demz will take America to a new level uv sivilization without the so-called conservativ ball & chain holding them back.

The Democrats are always struggling not to become another GOP. If the GOP was gone, the Democrats would invent its replacement. The Conservative impulse inside the Democratic party is the majority and would cause the party to split into two pieces.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:35 PM

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Or maybe the Demz will take America to a new level uv sivilization corruption without the so-called conservativ ball & chain holding them back.


If you two think that this is a matter of "conservative" versus "liberal", then I'd say that NEITHER of you has learned a damn thing about politics since you've been posting here!

It's not about "conservative" or "liberal", it's about money, it's all about money and it's always been about money. BOTH parties are essentially corrupt, and the Democratic vision is just as abhorrent as the Republican one, and in some ways a whole lot creepier.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
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Thursday, April 12, 2018 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Okay, SECOND ... speaking of slow learners ... what does your posting this article tell us about YOU?

Well, you hate Republicans with a passion. It's more than a passion, it's an idée fixe with you, an obsession that you return to over and over:

Republicans - especially Texas boo hiss Republicans - are unspeakably evil and incapable of learning. And Trump belongs in a class of contempt all his own, but Democrats will save the day!

But apparently, according to the article, Trump is killing the GOP chances this election. So the logical conclusion is that you should LIKE Trump, because he is damaging the GOP, even more than the Democrats could. He might not be your friend, but a force for change .... in some fashion, even a force for good. - SIGNY

Unless the Congressman in the story was a journalistic invention, that Congressman was saying some truths about Trump that Signym and other voters for Trump ought to know. I've known Trump-like characters in Texas. I would never do a second business deal with them because they break their promises, but Trump voters don't have much common sense about untrustworthy people. They talk about Trump as a "loose cannon" that will "drain the swamp". But Trump is never what his voters imagine he is.- SECOND



So, this all seems to be about you hating people ... who do you hate more? Trump? Or the GOP? Because they don't seem to be going in exactly the same direction.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

I hate Trump no more than I hate Trump-like businessmen that I have sued for breach of contract. Bankrupting some of them was a side effect of getting my money back plus interest and legal expenses. There was a suicide from one who couldn't live with the failure of his business. The part of me that knows Republicans are better than Democrats for lower taxes on the wealthy saw that death as well-deserved justice. That guy long had it coming and my attorneys made it happen. Three cheers for expensive Houston law firms and Robert Mueller!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I was going to let this pass, but decided not to. 6ixStringJack, you dropped below the income cutoff line. People think they are middle-class, whether they make $22k or $200k. The article for you is Everybody Thinks They Are Middle-class.



That doesn't take into consideration that I don't have a mortgage, I own my own home and car free and clear, I don't have any interest payments to anybody, yada, yada, yada...

My middle class neighbors have no clue that I'm not middle class based on some arbitrary numbers of income provided by some feds in suits. Neither does the local government who gets their income tax payments early every 6 months and never gets complaints from anybody that I don't maintain my property.

I'm semi retired. I've been that way since I bought my house with cash when I was 32.

Quote:

Then there is 6ixStringJack's revealing self-confession, most definitely not Middle-Class:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60807&mid=10513
82#1051382
Quote:


It's scary what drugs can do to you. And no, I'm not talking about weed...

I've done cocaine 7 times in my life. Managed to say no to it until my 24th birthday, but finally gave in that night for some reason even though it had been around me all the time for 5 or 6 years before then.

I never did anything particularly stupid while on it, but when you're brain is shooting mega doses of serotonin into your system, everything you think sounds like the best idea in the world. I can't even imagine what the more hardcore drugs like Crack and Meth and any of these other drugs made from cooking pharmaceuticals will do to you.

Fortunately for me, I made it a point to never befriend any dealers so it wasn't readily available to me at any time. Even more fortunate that unlike some of my friends who regularly did it, I would crash extremely hard and be useless for a day or two afterward so even though it was pretty much the most amazing feeling in the world I would say no unless I was stupid drunk and didn't have any plans for the weekend, which was pretty rare back in those days.

This guy probably wasn't a genius before he got involved with them, but it might not be a question of intelligence here.

I know that you're as straight edged as they come, JSF, so you couldn't possibly understand.

I'm certainly not advocating anybody use any hard core drugs or condoning this behavior. Just giving a different perspective on the issue.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ixStringJack's making of such a confession is a definitive example of Non-Middle-Class behavior.



lol...

Obviously you've never been around kids before. Rich or poor. Rich kids are some of the hardest drug abusers out there. They just tend to be able to get their hands on more expensive designer drugs.

I'm assuming you didn't go to college either? Neither did I, to be fair, but I was at college parties so much that people who attended classes there saw me so much they would ask me what my major was.

Doing drugs is not at all an indicator of your "class status".



Taking my candor about my misguided past and trying to it against me in a personal attack tells us a lot about how classy you are though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

lol...

Obviously you've never been around kids before. Rich or poor. Rich kids are some of the hardest drug abusers out there. They just tend to be able to get their hands on more expensive designer drugs.

I'm assuming you didn't go to college either? Neither did I, to be fair, but I was at college parties so much that people who attended classes there saw me so much they would ask me what my major was.

Doing drugs is not at all an indicator of your "class status".



Taking my candor about my misguided past and trying to it against me in a personal attack tells us a lot about how classy you are though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, you missed the point, even though I underlined it. You are the perfect guest for The Jerry Springer Show. Unlike Jerry's guests, the Middle-Class don't make public confessions. It is the opposite of bourgeois. You have publicly excluded yourself from decency. Save the confessions for your therapist if you are middle class. There is slightly more to being Middle-Class than having a certain income.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jerry_Springer_Show

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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