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Monday, March 20, 2023 12:56 AM

There's no difference between 1, 2 and 3. They're all bullshit stories.



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Monday, March 20, 2023 2:01 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There's no difference between 1, 2 and 3. They're all bullshit stories.

6ix, your years of drinking have misaligned your brain. Other goofy things you wrote today:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

It all started when the Government FORCED diversity hiring by giving them money to hire women and minorities in positions of power and "Human Resources" departments grew unchecked. Didn't matter if they earned it or not. Most women are incapable of handling a position of power. Not all, but most. It's not in the genes.

If minority men are educated and/or have experience, they're capable of it... but those aren't the people that are getting the jobs. Everything falls to shit when you're just mindlessly filling quotas.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65547&mid=1
171051#1171051

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My family is just too good at making due with bad situations... So I know where I got it from and how easy it was for me to allow my house to fall around me back in my drinking days.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=1
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 20, 2023 5:03 AM



Have fun at work tomorrow, honey.



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Monday, March 20, 2023 5:34 AM


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh yeah?
What's Biden* doing right now.
lol
You morons made a big fucking deal about a phone conversation Trump had with child rapist Zelensky back in the day, but Trump didn't give track-suit Z $125 BILLION and counting or have a son on his energy board making $60k per month while his only contribution to Ukraine was doing all the cocaine in the country so the citizens couldn't buy any.
You are not even worth having a conversation with.

SECOND 1) Reagan promises to secretly (remember, it's a big secret) give weapons to America's enemy, Iran. Iran promises to elect Reagan.

Hahahaha!!! Iran promised to hang on to the hostages and make Carter look stupid. Iran couldn't POSSIBLY "elect" Reagan.

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2) Trump promises to withhold weapons from friendly Ukraine unless Ukraine helps elect Trump.
same problem. HOW??

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3) Biden promises weapons to Ukraine so that Russia can't conquer Ukraine. BIDEN threatens to withhold $$ from Kiev unless they shut down the investigation into Burisma (from which BTW his son made millions). It's on tape.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:05 PM

Donald Trump: Saboteur in Chief
When you want to discredit government itself, obliviousness and ineptitude are their own rewards.

December 6, 2018 issue
by Fintan O’Toole

Writing about her friend the famously unpleasant Evelyn Waugh, Frances Donaldson reflected that

the weakness in attributing any particular quality to Evelyn is that he could not allow anyone to dictate his attitude or virtues to him. Consequently, if he was accused of some quality usually regarded as contemptible, where other men would be aroused to shame or hypocrisy, he studied it, polished up his performance, and, treating it as both normal and admirable, made it his own…. Consequently, it was never any good looking straight at him to learn the truth about him.

Donald Trump is not often compared to a great English novelist, and the word “studied” does not apply—he is all instinct. But his instincts lead him in precisely the same direction. He disorients us by wearing his most contemptible qualities as if they were crown jewels, by brandishing as trophies what others would conceal as shameful secrets. He uses his dirty linen as a cloth with which to polish up his performance.

Thus, on the evening of October 24, the day it was discovered that explosive devices had been mailed to several leading Democrats, Trump, at a rally in Mosinee, Wisconsin, mouthed the expected platitudes about coming together in “peace and harmony.” Any politician of the kind we are used to would have left it at that, keeping a straight face and willing his audience to forget his own hate-mongering. But Trump did not leave it at that. He tickled his fans with a teasing acknowledgment that this emollient rhetoric was unreal and that stirring up hatred was, and would remain, his essential effect: “By the way, do you see how nice I’m behaving tonight? Have you ever seen this?” The message was not subtle: I’m adjusting my act a little tonight but don’t worry, normal service will resume shortly.

Or, while any other politician accused of breaching electoral law to cover up a sexual liaison with a porn star would try to avoid the subject, Trump feeds the story by calling Stormy Daniels “Horseface” on Twitter. Or, while any conventional party leader would want to erase from the public memory an incident in which one of his candidates (Greg Gianforte) violently assaulted a reporter (Ben Jacobs) for asking him a question, Trump returned to it a year and a half later to propel it back into the headlines just as the murder of another journalist (Jamal Khashoggi) was on everyone’s mind. Or, while any other rash Tweeter might at least privately regret tweeting that the women demonstrating against the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court were “paid professionals,” Trump circled back to simultaneously retreat and up the ante: “The paid D.C. protesters are now ready to REALLY protest because they haven’t gotten their checks—in other words, they weren’t paid!”

And so on. When Guy Debord wrote in 1967 that “by means of the spectacle the ruling order discourses endlessly upon itself in an uninterrupted monologue of self-praise,” he can hardly have imagined that his insight would be so literally embodied or that an American president’s self-praise would take a form that, in conventional politics, would be self-sabotage.

Most of us are conditioned to regard these incidents as mere proof of Trump’s inability to control his impulses. But his urges are powerfully honed by decades of collusion with the scandal-mongers and gossip columnists who made him famous and helped him to create his brand. The outbursts and asides establish and maintain his alpha-male reputation in the eyes of his fans (though they might not quite put it like this) by not allowing anyone to “dictate his attitude or virtues to him.” Trump’s flaunting of his own most shameful qualities deflects the damage that any revelation can do to him. When he displays his vices so openly, the drama of revelation leads only to a shrug of the shoulders: tell us something we didn’t know. His outb

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Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by second:
The joke, though, was always likely to become a serious proposition sooner or later. If you keep saying that government is not the solution but the problem, that “Washington” as a generic term for all the institutions that manage the public realm is just a swamp to be drained, you will end up wanting to destroy it. And if this is what you want to do, then the aspects of Trump that seem most like political weaknesses—his ignorance and his incompetence—are not weaknesses at all. They are powerful weapons of administrative destruction. The best way to undermine government is to make it as stupid and as inept as your rhetoric has always claimed it to be.

The American system is uniquely vulnerable to this maneuver. Americans tend to think they have the best system of government in the world. Yet from the outside, one aspect of it seems insane. Most functioning democracies have a permanent civil service that is legally obliged to be politically neutral. It takes orders from elected politicians but is protected from subversion by protocols of parliamentary accountability and the difficulty of firing its members. In the US, there is of course a vast permanent public service of two million employees. But the top layers of each department and institution are made up of four thousand presidential appointees. Not only is there no continuity of management, but chaos is easy to create. All an incoming president needs to do is appoint people to these agencies who should not be allowed anywhere near them—or indeed appoint no one at all. There is in the US system an opportunity to abuse power by simply declining to use it.





President Biden’s “A-Team” turnover is 45% as of March 2, 2023.
https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-biden-admi
nistration
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Don't get me started on his current idiot press secretary.

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Tuesday, April 4, 2023 4:24 PM

Understanding the Red State Death Trip

Last Friday the Medicare trustees released their latest report on the system’s finances, and it contained some unexpected good news: Expenditures are running below projections, and the Hospital Insurance Trust Fund won’t be exhausted as soon as previously predicted. https://www.cms.gov/oact/tr/2023

But one important reason for this financial improvement was grisly: Covid killed a substantial number of Medicare beneficiaries. And the victims were disproportionately seniors already suffering from severe — and expensive — health problems. “As a result, the surviving population had spending that was lower than average.” https://www.cms.gov/oact/tr/2023#page=7

Now, Covid killed a lot of people around the world, so wasn’t this just an act of God? Not exactly. You see, America experienced a bigger decline in life expectancy when Covid struck than any other wealthy country. Furthermore, while life expectancy recovered in many countries in 2021, here it continued to fall. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-022-01450-3

And America’s dismal Covid performance was part of a larger story. I don’t know how many Americans are aware that over the past four decades, our life expectancy has been lagging ever further that of other advanced nations — even nations whose economic performance has been poor by conventional measures. Italy, for example, has experienced a generation of economic stagnation, with basically no growth in real G.D.P. per capita since 2000, compared with a 29 percent rise here. Yet Italians can expect to live about five years longer than Americans, a gap that has widened even as the Italian economy flounders.


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=127rX

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=127s0

What explains the American way of death? A large part of the answer seems to be political.

One important clue is that the problem of premature death isn’t evenly distributed across the country. Life expectancy is hugely unequal across U.S. regions, with major coastal cities not looking much worse than Europe but the South and the eastern heartland doing far worse.
https://americaninequality.substack.com/p/life-expectancy-and-inequali
ty


But wasn’t it always thus? No. Geographic health disparities have surged in recent decades. According to the U.S. mortality database, as recently as 1990, Ohio had slightly higher life expectancy than New York. Since then, New York’s life expectancy has risen rapidly, nearly converging with that of other rich countries, while Ohio’s has hardly risen at all and is now four years less than New York’s.

There has been considerable research into the causes of these growing disparities. A 2021 paper published in The Journal of Economic Perspectives examined various possible causes, like the increasing concentration of highly educated Americans (who tend to be healthier than those with less education) in states that are already highly educated and the widening per capita income gaps among states. The authors found that these factors can’t explain more than a small fraction of the growing mortality gap.

Instead, they argued, the best explanation lay in policy: “The most promising explanation for our findings involve efforts by high-income states to adopt specific health-improving policies and behaviors since at least the early 1990s. Over time, these efforts reduced mortality in high-income states more rapidly than in low-income states, leading to widening spatial disparities in health.”
https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/jep.35.4.123#page=4

That sounds right. But did high-income states adopt health-improving policies because they were rich and could afford to? Or was it because in 21st-century America, high-income states tend to be politically progressive and politics, rather than money per se, account for the difference?

There is, in fact, a strong correlation between how much a state’s

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Tuesday, April 4, 2023 5:27 PM

Lots of fake news right there.

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Tuesday, April 4, 2023 5:52 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Lots of fake news right there.

The life expectancy for Haiti in 2022 was 64.70 years. Can you survive that long, 6ix? The Trumptards I know don't live as long as a Haitian. It is more than a little odd that the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere has increased life expectancy while at the very same time in the richest country, the Republicans have decreased their life expectancy.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/HTI/haiti/life-expectancy

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, April 7, 2023 7:01 PM

Los Angeles Times reported about Justice Thomas’ gifts 20 years ago. After that he stopped disclosing them

Thomas refused to comment on the article, but it had an impact: Thomas appears to have continued accepting free trips from his wealthy friend. But he stopped disclosing them.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-04-06/the-times-reported-a
bout-justice-thomas-gifts-20-years-ago-after-he-just-stopped-disclosing-them


That's our Clarence! When you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, don't pull out your hand and apologize. Instead, do a better job of making sure the plebs can't catch you.

Supreme Court justices sure do live in a weird, lawless netherworld where they can do anything they want. That's sort of ironic since they're folks who make up the law for the rest of us.

Clarence Thomas and the Billionaire
https://www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-scotus-undisclosed-
luxury-travel-gifts-crow


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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