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Sunday, September 19, 2021 7:29 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Democrats are cancer.

Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.



Don't want to hear about it.

Had to listen to you talking about assassinating Trump, killing your bosses and stealing everything they own, Nilbog talking about genociding everyone she didn't agree with, the Roomba telling people to kill themselves and graphically telling them how they should do it three times a day, Ted celebrating any time somebody with the wrong political opinion dies, and JO and Cap'n never calling any of you out on it.



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Sunday, September 19, 2021 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Democrats are cancer.

Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.



Don't want to hear about it.

Remember this from Serenity? It describes the GOP and its voters: (Fanty) You're unpredictable, Mal. You run when you ought to fight. Fight when you ought to deal. Makes a businessperson a little twitchy.
http://www.myths.com/pub/scripts/Serenity.html

Mal didn't get the point Fanty was making. Years have passed in the comics and the novels written after Serenity, but Mal still hasn't gotten the point. He doesn't know how to prosper because his actions are not close to the best for the situations. Republican voters have the same poor performance as Mal because their responses are, let's be polite for once, sub-optimal for the problems they face in life.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 20, 2021 5:29 PM

The Banality of Trump Being Bonkers

When Bob Woodward first breathlessly reported the fragile mental state of a president on his way out of office, it was a national sensation. His and Carl Bernstein’s depiction of a drunk, unhinged Richard Nixon in 1976’s The Final Days shocked the country in an age of three television networks and zero social-media platforms. In Woodward’s new book, Peril, co-authored with fellow Washington Post reporter Robert Costa, it’s no surprise that Trump is depicted as off his rocker — that’s been reported in detail almost every day for years, and regularly demonstrated by the former president’s own statements and behavior.

He was focused on issues like his displeasure with the design of the U.S.S. Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier. In particular, according to Peril, Trump found the placement of the flight command center on the carrier’s deck to be aesthetically displeasing and would rail against it to military officials.

There are new details in Peril on the games those around Trump played as they’d tried to manage him in the aftermath of the election, like how Secretary of State Mike Pompeo got on the phone with Milley one evening to express the need for the two to act in concert to protect the country. “We’ve got to stand shoulder to shoulder,” he told the general. “We’re the last of the Mohicans.” (The next day, Pompeo was smirking to reporters about a “smooth transition to a second Trump administration.”) Mitch McConnell reportedly went so far as to set up a back channel to communicate with Joe Biden after the election to avoid a direct phone call that would raise Trump’s ire.

Throughout, Trump was an object of scorn for many in his orbit. Woodward and Costa report that Milley thought that the president was experiencing mental decline, Attorney General William Barr compared him to a deranged character from Dr. Strangelove, and McConnell was fond of telling senators a story that ended with the punchline of former secretary of State Rex Tillerson calling Trump “a fucking moron.”

In 2018, an internet jokester tweeted a fake book excerpt about Trump’s alleged love for the Gorilla Channel, a makeshift television channel created by aides that only aired videos of apes fighting. Many people believed the excerpt and story were real. That Trump might be obsessed with watching gorillas fight didn’t seem that far-fetched compared to what was appearing on the front page of the New York Times or Washington Post most days.

Then again, the idea of a president egging on a mob to lay siege to the U.S. Capitol should have been as absurd as the idea of one spending 17 hours a day watching videos of gorillas slapping each other. It is what makes any behind-the-scenes look at Trump’s White House so ultimately unsatisfying. There are ample newly reported details in Woodward and Costa’s book, but the most shocking events during Trump’s last days in office didn’t happen in closed-door meetings or private conversations — they were broadcast live on cable television.

After all, it becomes hard to reveal that the emperor has no clothes when he’s spent half a decade tweeting that he’s naked.

More at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/09/woodwards-peril-and-the-banali
ty-of-trump-being-bonkers.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 20, 2021 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Democrats are cancer.

Republican rhetoric has gotten unhinged.



Don't want to hear about it.

Remember this from Serenity? It describes the GOP and its voters: (Fanty) You're unpredictable, Mal. You run when you ought to fight. Fight when you ought to deal. Makes a businessperson a little twitchy.
http://www.myths.com/pub/scripts/Serenity.html

Mal didn't get the point Fanty was making. Years have passed in the comics and the novels written after Serenity, but Mal still hasn't gotten the point. He doesn't know how to prosper because his actions are not close to the best for the situations. Republican voters have the same poor performance as Mal because their responses are, let's be polite for once, sub-optimal for the problems they face in life.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



My life is awesome.



P.S. Nobody gave a shit about Woodward after Redford was done playing him.

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Monday, September 20, 2021 11:12 PM

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P.S. Nobody gave a shit about Woodward after Redford was done playing him.

For a President Who ‘Needs to Touch the Flame,’ Bob Woodward Was Irresistible. President Trump gave 18 interviews to the famed Watergate journalist, gambling that he could control the narrative. Instead, he undermined himself shortly before an election.

Presidents over the decades thought they could manage Bob Woodward and many, as Karl Rove put it this week, came to regret it. Then came Donald J. Trump, who being Donald J. Trump thought so much of his powers of persuasion that he opened up to Mr. Woodward not once or twice but an astonishing 18 times.

So President Trump may have 18 times as many reasons for regret, as the latest blockbuster from Mr. Woodward reveals a president who privately understood how deadly the coronavirus really was even as he was telling the public the opposite. With an election 53 days away, perhaps no other president who talked with Mr. Woodward did as much to undermine himself.

“What Trump did was neither normal or advisable,” said Dan Pfeiffer, who was a senior adviser to Mr. Obama. “Instead of just sitting down for an interview, Trump treated a reporter famous for bringing down a president like his personal sounding board. It is truly one of the most stupidly self-destructive communications decisions made by a politician in memory.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/10/us/politics/trump-woodward.html

Download the Bob Woodward book Peril from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.ws/search.php?req=Woodward+Peril

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 6:00 AM

Trump is fine.

Woodward is a worm.

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 7:21 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump is fine.

Woodward is a worm.

Trump's lawyer wrote a memo called "PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL January 6 scenario" about how fucked up Trump is: http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2021/images/09/20/eastman.memo.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:43 AM

Don't care. Didn't read.

You make that decision easy Second.

You haven't changed one single bit since the day I sobered up.

That was five years ago now bud.


How much of that time did you waste?

No use crying over that now.

But now might be the time you start asking yourself if you can afford to waste another five.



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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:45 PM

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You haven't changed one single bit since the day I sobered up.

6ix, possibly there is a happy-ever-after ending to your fairy tale life.

Until now, I believed you were faking your opinions. (I also believe Russian troll post here) I believed there never was any drinking, so there never was any sobering up. But then you write "lol Gunshot wounds are Covid deaths..." http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=64577 Uh-oh, something’s wrong with 6ix.

What if 6ix has not been faking? What if the 6ix at fireflyfans is real, instead of an elaborate creation for the internet?

I never have any back and forth with people I know who are real life Trumptards because they are too messed up, too short tempered, too unstable. I also avoid political conversations with sun-burnt beggars holding cardboard signs. It is creepy to think 6ix is one of those real life Trumptard, not just somebody faking it.

I feel sad for genuine Trumptards and their squalid lives. They are as icky as Hollywood’s version of the Joker, played by Joaquin Phoenix. But what if real actor Phoenix had killed his actual mother and therapist in real life and been committed to a psych hospital before becoming a movie star? That would be as nasty as 6ix being a real Trumptard, not a troll pretending to be a Trumptard for laughs. If you are a real Trumptard I have to stop because you are too messed up in the head, 6ix. "Nobody died from covid/Trump won." That kind of mental illness. Living on $4,500 per year. That’s messed up, 6ix. Beggars who get $15 per day with their card board signs make more than that in a year:

"I can manage to live quite comfortably on around only $4,500 per year, and that's including property taxes and car insurance." -- 6ix
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497


"Telling you that I don't believe a single person died of Covid wasn't honest enough for you?" -- 6ix
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63473&mid=11280
35#1128035


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, September 21, 2021 5:52 PM

Millennials are the highest paid generation in American history

https://jabberwocking.com/millennials-are-the-highest-paid-generation-
in-american-history
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"The American Dream is no longer true in the way it was for more than a hundred years: the average Millennial will earn less money than their parents."

This is yet another example of conventional wisdom that gets repeated forever even when recent evidence tells us it's no longer true. Here is household income at age 35-44 for Boomers, Gen X, and Millennials:

Millennials at age ~40 earn quite a bit more than Boomers did at age 40. This is median income adjusted for inflation, so it doesn't include zillionaires and it's real dollars.

But wait. Household income may have gone up because there are more two-earner families than in the past. That's true, so let's look at individual income:

Averaged together, Millennial income at age 40 is about 25% higher than Boomers at the same age, but the earnings of men have been basically flat while the earnings of women have gone up 75%. In other words, individual earnings of Millennials at age 40 are quite a bit higher than Boomers at age 40, but the distribution of those earnings is quite different.

There are technical details here about age distribution within the 35-44 band and a few other things, but nothing that makes more than a small difference. And you can always cherry pick the data to show anything you want. But if you just look at straightforward income figures, Millennials earn more than comparable Gen X and Boomer workers.

So what accounts for the ongoing myth of Millennials being worse off than Boomers? My guess is that lots of people simply refuse to acknowledge what's happened in recent years. In 2012 you could make a case that Millennials were indeed a lost generation, and it quickly became received wisdom that this was true. But starting in 2015 incomes began a powerful run, increasing by nearly a quarter before dropping a bit during the pandemic year of 2020.

In other words, the Great Recession hit Millennials hard, but it was a temporary hit and Millennials enjoyed strong income gains during the recovery. They are now the highest paid generation in American history, but only if you look at data going all the way to the present instead of just chopping things off at 2012 and never looking again.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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