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And what if the government were to set internal and export gas prices, to benefit US-based industries? So that your industry would benefit US manufacturing and US workers instead of just ... you?
I'm sure there's a reason why you didn't address basic manufacturing in your answer tho Signy specifically mentioned it; and why focused on government projects. And I'm pretty sure that was intentional, and self-serving.
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Quote:If the government wants to set the price for my natural gas, it can go right ahead. It can't be any worse than what the market does. I take that back: government could set the price so high that most of my customers stop buying, and burning, in order to save the world from climate change. I am pretty damn sure we will have to stop burning fossil fuels or else die while choking on the fumes.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And what if the government were to set internal and export gas prices, to benefit US-based industries? So that your industry would benefit US manufacturing and US workers instead of just ... you?
I'm sure there's a reason why you didn't address basic manufacturing in your answer tho Signy specifically mentioned it; and why focused on government projects. And I'm pretty sure that was intentional, and self-serving.
The reason why I did NOT focus on manufacturing is that moving all factories from Mexico and Canada and China back to the United States was a Trump talking point. You might not have noticed, but Trump's tariff policy didn't move any jobs back to the United States. I guess moving all those jobs is possible, but it is not possible to do it without setting off a trade war.
Check out 'How many jobs did Trump tariff policy create?' at google https://www.google.com/search?q=How+many+jobs+did+Trump+tariff+policy+
create%3F
The answer I get from google is that Trump's tariff policy did NOT work. But I doubt that voters for Trump would believe Trump failed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Biden hits roadblocks on path to low-carbon economy
Updated: June 17, 2021 2:17 p.m.
When President Joe Biden announced in April that he was planning to cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions in half over the next nine years, administration officials believed the goal was ambitious but achievable through policies that would accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles and effectively ban power plants from emitting carbon dioxide.
But a series of early setbacks in both court and Congress is providing a reality check for the administration. Biden is quickly finding out that achieving such a sharp drop in emissions over such a short period will be inordinately difficult in the current political climate.
The decision by a Louisiana federal judge Wednesday requiring the Department of Interior to end its pause on oil and gas leasing came as the administration’s plan to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on electric vehicle charging stations and tax credits was looking unlikely to make it into any bipartisan infrastructure package that might materialize.
And if the administration officials had any question about Republicans willingness to shift the nation away from fossil fuels, they only had to look to Texas where the Republican-controlled state government just passed a law limiting state entities including pension funds from investing with companies seeking to shift investment from fossil fuels.
“How's he doing reworking the entire economy? It's going slowly,” quipped Glenn Schwartz, director of energy policy at the Washington consulting firm Rapidan Group. “His big goals are limited by partisan gridlock in Congress. Going forward he’s going to need to rely on his existing authority as president, but there he’s really just playing at the edges.”
In the days following his inauguration, Biden came out hard on climate change, painting the issue both as an existential crisis for the planet but also one that offered the potential for a clean energy boom that would create new industries and new jobs.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210617233141/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/business/energy/article/Biden-hits-roadblocks-on-path-to-low-carbon-16254695.php
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:So, what were you REWARDED for?
1KIKI:
How about - yanno - basic and advanced INDUSTRY?
Like steel manufacturing and chip fabrication? Textiles and rare earth mining?
What's that, you say? That would mean government would have to get its sticky fingers into PRIVATE INDUSTRIES - like, maybe, yours? ... Because industries are no longer serving the country or its people?
SECOND: Don't blame me. I was a construction engineer building petrochemical plants here and overseas. After that, I was selling natural gas and cattle in America. All those careers are based in the U.S.A. Product is made here, or grown here, and sold here or to foreigners.
Going to Vietnam? Er, not so much. (I wonder what meme that would be under? "Real" America? The kind that believes in freedom, mom, and apple pie?)
Working at McDonald's? Not so much there, either. (That would belong, I suppose, under "Free" America.)
Designing petrochemical plants? Well, moving up the scale, definitely. Prolly somewhere between "Free" America and "Smart" America.
But when did the money REALLY come rolling in??? When you BOUGHT land and became a RENTIER CAPITALIST, "making money in your sleep" simply through the fact of ownership, not effort. What meme does THAT belong in?
It doesn't, because it's the meme we don't talk about.
The meaningful jobs ... raising children, growing food, building buildings, digging ditches, assembling components, trucking goods .... THOSE are relegated to undocumented nannies and agricultural workers and day-laborers and low-wage assembly line workers and "gig economy" services. The stuff that doesn't matter - internet "influencers" and celebrity chefs - get a lot of money.
And the really BIG money goes to the owners.
It's an upside-down reward system that is destroying America.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
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lol
$3.30 for gas today.
Welcome to Biden*'s America.
Dems will be out next year, and Biden* will be out on his ass in 2024.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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Originally posted by second:
I will show you a map to my life:
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Quote:Presidents don't control gasoline prices:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
$3.30 for gas today.
Welcome to Biden*'s America.
Dems will be out next year, and Biden* will be out on his ass in 2024.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
US Regular All Formulations Gas Price
Weighted average based on sampling of approximately 900 retail outlets, 8:00AM Monday. The price represents self-service unless only full-service is available and includes all taxes.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=EQ1p
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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If the government blah blah blah ... Trump ... blah blah blah ... Trump .. blah blah blah ... Trump ... Trump ...
Since you refuse to post anything honest, or even on topic, I'm not even going to pretend to discuss this with you.
But, related to Signy's post ...
I think history taught us that corporations have no loyalty to America. They, along with their captive politicians and economic advisors, are the authors of the US's current problems of dependency on China for manufactured goods, the bad Balance of Trade, and crippling debt in all sectors. So in general, it's futile to presume business will fix the problems it has created.
There's also another issue here, and that's the presumption the US government is a business, and that it should be run like a business. But the government isn't a business. It wasn't created to harvest the highest profit possible by any means necessary. Instead its charter is to to 'provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity'. That reads nothing like a corporate prospectus.
I think people need to rethink their assumptions about the US and its various levels of government, and what they should and should not be focused on.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Presidents don't control gasoline prices:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
$3.30 for gas today.
Welcome to Biden*'s America.
Dems will be out next year, and Biden* will be out on his ass in 2024.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
That doesn't matter.
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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.
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We're staring down the barrel of 1970's style inflation. The type of stuff I was fortunate not to have lived through.
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/558555-biden-approaches-economic-p
oint-of-no-return
Biden* is fucked.
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