A thread for Democrats Only
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A thread for Democrats* Only
I've been harping about how awful the democrats* are since 2016:
Hillary Clinton: just because she deserves her own thread
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=1
And nobody who seems to be pro-democrat* here has addressed a single one of my objections. Nope, not one post on the particulars in all that time. Instead of addressing the problems with democrats*, the pro-democrat* faction here seems content to take personal potshots instead.
WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET YOU TO STOP FOCUSING ON TRUMP (AND RUSSIA), AND ADDRESS AMERICAN PROBLEMS THAT DEMOCRATS* ARE NOT ADDRESSING? That's what I want to know.
BTW, as a registered democrat*, since 2016 I have not voted for a democrat*. People who get my vote only need to meet 2 requirements: 1) NOT the democrat*, and 2) having a platform that resembles my own views - which I have posted multiple times. But to reiterate: 1) focus on global warming, and 2) reduce the threat of nuclear confrontation with Russia. Both of these are EXISTENTIAL threats - ie, whether we and the planet survive in some reasonable fashion, or not.
And as you may have noticed democrats* have done absolutely nothing to reduce US global warming gas EMISSIONS, and are actively provoking Russia with unending sanctions about un-evidenced claims. (And let me point out, again, the difference between reality and delusion, news and propaganda, is EVIDENCE.)
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Quote:He should worry more about the multiple suits against him.
Originally posted by THG:
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Trump THREATENS to Sue Republican Party If they Don't stop using his name in Fundraising
But, he's always been stupid. He's convinced he's God,
along with Naziboy and his Russian trolls.
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Thank you JO, for actually acknowledging that Hillary started the Birther movement in 08. Good luck finding any evidence of that fact online anymore though, as it seems to have been completely scrubbed.
Not scrubbed, debunked.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/birther-movement-founder-trump-
clinton-228304
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theo
ries#Origins_of_the_claims
Nah. It's not debunked. I remember Hillary saying it back when Trump was still doing reality TV and nobody ever imagined he'd run for President.
The only problem was that YouTube was only a year or two old at that time and only had crazy cat videos and teens doing stupid stuff. Nobody was saving newscasts, and so history only 13 years ago is easy to erase.
Wikipedia and politico are highly biased "sources" and completely incapable of fact checking.
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No suprize that the claim that Hillary started it iz GoP disinfo based on cherry pikking and oversimplifying a tangled story. Dependz on most peepl not having the time to reserch every tiny detail.
Just yesterday, you yourself said that Hillary started it in 2008, and now you're convinced otherwise. See how easy you just got manipulated and had your reality changed by somebody else saying what you wanted to hear?
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The Role of The Big Lie
Ken Melvin | March 7, 2021 10:40 am
Usually, lies are told for purpose. So, in most cases, if we can determine whose purpose is being served, we will know who is behind the lie.
Whose interests were being served by the Confederacy during the American Civil War? Sure as heck wasn’t those of the yeomen farmers who did most of the fighting and dying. There’s a good chance that it was the planters who told the lies that got so many killed. Heady stuff; people knowingly and willingly telling lies to people that were willing enough to believe in enough to die for those lies.
Whose interests are being served by American Capitalism? Free Markets? Who’s putting up the perpetuating? Sure as heck isn’t the lower fifty-percent.
Who in America’s interests were best served by the Vietnam War, the Invasion of Iraq? Sure wasn’t all those dead and wounded. Wasn’t the rest of the lower fifty, either.
The lower fifty is constantly being admonished to work hard and do the right thing? Who says what is the right thing. Who benefits most from all the hard work?
Who in America’s interests were best served by offshoring all those jobs? Certainly wasn’t in the interests of all those who died from Methamphetamine and Opiates.
In whose best interests is America’s ‘worst in the advanced world’ healthcare system? The dead can’t talk? Too bad.
In whose best interests is America having a lower than living minimum wage? Whose are they that are getting more than their fair share and want to keep it that way?
In whose interests was it to take America back fifty-sixty years? Those whose support system is based on white supremacy, maybe?
Speaking of Trump: Trump lied impulsively with purpose; the purpose being his own interests.
The Big Lie is such a big part of America, where would we be without it? What would we do without it?
https://angrybearblog.com/2021/03/the-role-of-the-big-lie
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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To Hell with Unity by Fintan O’Toole
Biden’s ability to govern depends on abandoning any hope of reconciliation with the GOP.
March 25, 2021 issue
They had a better class of insult at Catholic boys’ prep schools in the 1950s. During his first semester at Archmere Academy in Delaware, where Latin was a big thing, Joe Biden was given a nickname: Joe Impedimenta. The word referred to his speech impediment, the stutter that meant, as he recalled, “I talked like Morse code.” But it also signifies in Latin the baggage encumbering an army’s progress over rough terrain. As president, Joe Impedimenta needs to move fast. It seems obvious, however, that he will be held back by a formidable hindrance. His baggage is an impossible ideal, a desire for bipartisan unity that cannot be fulfilled. Yet he can and must leave it behind him and learn to travel light.
Biden has long returned to a phrase from Abraham Lincoln’s inaugural address of 1861. In his 2007 book, Promises to Keep, he deplored the way “partisanship rips at the bonds of affection that tie the country state to state, political party to political party, citizen to citizen.” In November 2008 Biden stood with Barack Obama as the then president-elect, in his own victory speech, quoted Lincoln’s words to “a nation far more divided than ours”: “Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.” Even leaving aside the reality that Lincoln’s appeal preceded by a matter of weeks the outbreak of open civil war, its repetition on that hopeful occasion thirteen years ago now casts a gloomy shadow. The appeal was no more successful in 2008 than it had been in 1861—and there is even scanter reason to think it will be heard in 2021.
Indeed, in Biden’s own previous analysis, the “ethic of division” in contemporary American politics took hold as early as the 1994 midterm elections, when Republicans stormed to victory under the banner of Newt Gingrich’s radically right-wing Contract with America, in the process winning more House seats in the South than the Democrats for the first time since Reconstruction. If this is so, almost thirty years of calls for mutual respect and tolerance have been not just rebuffed but flung back with contempt. There surely comes a time when repeated declarations of unrequited love look less like fidelity and more like madness, a time to see the bonds of affection tying party to party as bonds in the other sense, chains that shackle the democratic majority to the will of a fiercely intractable minority.
What Biden surely understands by now is that he does not have to break those fetters—the Republican Party has done the job for him. The willingness of most congressional Republicans to endorse Donald Trump’s attempts to overturn the November election and their unwillingness to convict Trump for his role in the violent putsch of January 6 may be horrifying. But these choices are also clarifying. There can be no illusions of accord, or even of civilized dispute. There is only a minority that will do everything in its considerable power to thwart, to wreck, to undermine.
There should be a kind of liberation in this implacable hatred. Biden has been freed, by the failure of the Republicans to move beyond Trumpism, to shake off his pursuit of consensus politics. He has become Joe Nonimpedimenta.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210302222100/https://www.nybooks.com/art
icles/2021/03/25/joe-biden-to-hell-with-unity/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
To Hell with Unity by Fintan O’Toole
lol
Fuck you.
There was never going to be any unity. You've been terrible for 4 straight years and thought things would change now?
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" 'You're like the Nazis' is the new 'I don't like you'. That disqualifies her from marching around planet Who-Gives-a-Shit in a helmet? ~Bill Maher
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Fascists are indistinguishable from royalists.
https://twitter.com/libertyhangout/status/1256782525734752256?lang=en
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Even if that were an entertaining video, I'd never watch something that was posted by the Roomba.
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" 'You're like the Nazis' is the new 'I don't like you'. That disqualifies her from marching around planet Who-Gives-a-Shit in a helmet? ~Bill Maher
Collection of links to Second's, Nilbog's and Marcos' death threats: https://cutt.ly/tkCvEX6
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Will Stagnation Follow the Biden Boom? The relief bill is done; infrastructure may be harder.
Financial markets are signaling that they expect a return to underperformance once the Biden boom is behind us. These days interest rates are, in effect, a barometer of economic optimism — and these rates have in fact risen as the rescue plan has moved toward the finish line. But the rise has been modest, comparable to the “taper tantrum” of 2013 (don’t ask) and minor compared with some interest rate surges of the 1990s.
What markets are telling us, in effect, is that after the boom they expect a return to stagnation — which would, again, be a bad place to be. How can we avoid it?
The answer is actually obvious: a large program of public investment, paid for largely with borrowing, although with a case for new taxes, too, if it’s really big. Such a program would do double duty. Macroeconomics aside, we need to spend a lot to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, fight climate change, and more. And public investment can also be a major source of jobs and growth, helping to pull us out of the stagnation trap.
The good news is that the Biden administration’s economists understand all of this perfectly well, and by all accounts they’re already in the process of putting together a very ambitious infrastructure plan.
The bad news is that getting such a plan enacted will be very hard politically — probably even harder than getting to yes on short-term economic rescue.
In a well-functioning democracy, putting together a big public investment plan wouldn’t be hard. “Every bit of polling evidence I have reviewed,” wrote Gallup’s Frank Newport, “shows that Americans are extremely supportive of new government infrastructure legislation.” Remember, the Trump administration spent four years promising a plan any day now, although it never delivered.
But every bit of polling evidence I’ve reviewed also showed that Americans — including many Republicans — supported the American Rescue Plan. Yet not a single elected Republican voted for it.
Republicans will probably offer similar lock-step opposition to anything Democrats propose on infrastructure. In fact, the very popularity of infrastructure spending will stiffen their opposition, because what they want, above all, is to make the Biden administration a failure.
So the big question is whether Democrats can pull off another political miracle, and pass a second round of crucial economic legislation in the face of scorched-earth Republican opposition. The answer to that question will determine whether the Biden boom will endure.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/08/opinion/biden-economy-stagnation.ht
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Excuses, excuses.
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" 'You're like the Nazis' is the new 'I don't like you'. That disqualifies her from marching around planet Who-Gives-a-Shit in a helmet? ~Bill Maher
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