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Quote:I bother because I plan a decade ahead in business. Why not four years ahead in politics?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You have a very short memory. In case you don't recall, Ted Cruz shutdown the government in attempts to kill Obamacare. In case you don't recall, Trump can run again in 2024. There is no reason to think they can't win.
Originally posted by THG:
Come on two why so negative. Trump hasn't even conceded yet. OAC told the NY Times just the other day she isn't sure she wants to continue in politics, yet you have her running for president in 2024. What are you trying to stir up?
www.politico.com/story/2013/10/ted-cruz-blasted-by-angry-gop-colleague
s-government-
My point is that you're looking at 2024. Nothing of what you speculate about is meaningful, so why bother?
T
I prefer to wait a few years to see what unfolds so I can form opinions base on what has been going on. Allot will happen in the next four years and my speculations about it now aren't worth shit. I guess you think yours are. You're entitled to that.
T
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What our Secretary of State is doing is known as the crime of sedition. It refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. This empowers all those cowards who moved platforms. Most of us know this but we're far from over.
The final sentence of that full quote he did hedge, ever ever so slightly. But I still found it shocking and way, way way out of line.
"The world should have every confidence that the transition necessary to make sure that the State Department is functional today, successful today and successful with a president who's in office on January 20 a minute after noon, will also be successful," he said.
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1KIKI - Interesting that RF's and SECOND's posts track each other in content.
Quote:Sure. You're not RF. That's why you've been posting for YEARS that the problem with the government is due to the voting public being too meek and shortsighted ... in a word, too republican ... and so too unwilling to support real reform. And why you've been agitating against Bernie and Ocasio. Until now. /sarcasm off
SECOND - I am not reaverfan. We are both pulling articles from the sources at the left end of the political spectrum.
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If anybody still haz illusionz that the Republican party iz just doing wut it thinks iz best for the nation, this article from wun uv their 'think tank/polisy leader' organizationz shoud clear thingz up:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/12-ways-for-trump-to-bomb-the-bat
tlefield-while-biden-claims-the-presidency/
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1KIKI - Interesting that RF's and SECOND's posts track each other in content.
Quote:Sure. You're not RF. That's why you've been posting for YEARS that the problem with the government is due to the voting public being too meek and shortsighted ... in a word, too republican ... and so too unwilling to support real reform. And why you've been agitating against Bernie and Ocasio. Until now. /sarcasm off
SECOND - I am not reaverfan. We are both pulling articles from the sources at the left end of the political spectrum.
snicker
After four years of Donald Trump, only a tiny percentage of the American public switched their votes to the Democratic Party
I hate to interrupt with some bad news, but I’m seeing a fair amount of wishful thinking about Joe Biden’s victory that really needs to be corrected before it congeals into lefty conventional wisdom. It’s true that once all the votes are counted, Biden will have a nice popular vote win, and it’s also true that he’ll most likely win over 300 electoral votes.
But in terms of the states everyone was watching this was not a big victory. The key states, as in 2016, were the “blue wall” of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. And in those states, Biden’s aggregate winning margin was 1.4 percent of the total vote. In 2016, Trump won by 0.6 percent of the vote. That’s a switch of two percentage points.
No matter how you spin it, that’s just not very much. In a closely divided country, it was enough to give Biden a victory, and in that sense it’s a lot. And Democrats did make gains in a few specific demographics. But in terms of how overall attitudes have changed, it’s only a tiny turnaround. After four years of watching Trump in action; suffering through a pandemic; and not having the hated Hillary Clinton on the ballot, hardly anyone changed their minds. Add to that a tiny increase in the popular vote; no pickups in state legislatures; a loss of half a dozen House seats; worrisome losses among Latinos; and (so far) only a single pickup in the Senate, and it’s just not possible to say that the Democratic Party demonstrated any sort of increased appeal to the broad electorate.
Think about that: After four years of Donald Trump, only a tiny percentage of the American public switched their votes to the Democratic Party.
At the moment, the evidence is too thin to draw any conclusions about why this is. And given the complete uselessness of the exit polls, it might well be months or years before we can really say what happened. One way or another, though, we shouldn’t fool ourselves: there’s no real evidence that the country showed any increased love for either the Democratic Party or the liberal agenda writ large. We need to figure out why that is.
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/11/joe-biden-won-but-trump
ism-didnt-lose/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:A taste of that article: 6. Fire Fauci
Originally posted by JO753:
If anybody still haz illusionz that the Republican party iz just doing wut it thinks iz best for the nation, this article from wun uv their 'think tank/polisy leader' organizationz shoud clear thingz up:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/10/12-ways-for-trump-to-bomb-the-bat
tlefield-while-biden-claims-the-presidency/
Dr. Anthony Fauci is a double-dealing political hack who has devastated his country insisting it is moral to sacrifice an entire nation to stop a single virus with a survivability rate of 99.95 percent for the working- and school-age population (those younger than 70). Under Trump, he has actively worked against the president’s priority of making sure there is an America left after COVID, providing nonstop ammunition to media hysteria that has hobbled the nation, advanced our foreign enemies, deeply damaged relationships and communities, and darkened our economic future while very possibly increasing the death toll.
Fauci should have been fired months ago. He probably wasn’t because of the upcoming election. Well, now the election is over. Get rid of this petty little dictator.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Wow. These people are in outer space.
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Don’t Let Up: Fascism isn’t Dead Yet
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/11/08/dont-let-up-fascism-isnt-dead-
yet/
Even if Joe Biden had won the U.S. presidency by the expected landslide, the threat of fascism would remain. And not simply because Trumpites are not going away anytime soon.
Donald Trump doesn’t have the intelligence, competence or sufficient ruling-class backing to actually become a fascist dictator. His desire to be one, however, has been more than sufficient to necessitate the widest possible movement against him and the social forces he will continue to represent, and there is no doubt his authoritarian impulses would have become still worse had he won a second term. What little democracy is left in the United States’ capitalist formal democracy would have been further reduced.
It might be better to understand Trump as the Republican Party’s frankenstein — the culmination of the Republican “Southern Strategy.” Richard Nixon was an open racist who developed the strategy of sending dog whistles to White racists; Ronald Reagan promoted “states’ rights,” well understood code words for supporting racially biased policies; George H.W. Bush exploited racial stereotypes with his Willie Horton campaign ads; George W. Bush’s presidency will be remembered for his callous ignoring of New Orleans and its African-American population in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina; and the roster of Republicans hostile to civil rights is too long to list. Moreover, the Republican Party, with very few exceptions, has been an eager promoter and enabler of Trump’s virulent pro-big business policies with most not even bothering to pretend to challenge Trump’s racism and misogyny.
It was no surprise that a billionaire con man whose business plan has long been to screw his real estate empire’s working-class contractors and use every trick imaginable to not pay taxes or his creditors was going to stick it to working people.
The Trump administration has been the worst U.S. presidency in history with an extraordinarily fierce approach to class warfare. But let us consider what fascism is: At its most basic level, fascism is a dictatorship established through and maintained with terror on behalf of big business. It has a social base, which provides the support and the terror squads, but which is badly misled since the fascist dictatorship operates decisively against the interest of its social base. Militarism, extreme nationalism, the creation of enemies and scapegoats, and, perhaps the most critical component, a rabid propaganda that intentionally raises panic and hate while disguising its true nature and intentions under the cover of a phony populism, are among the necessary elements.
Despite varying national characteristics that result in major differences in the appearances of fascism, the class nature is consistent. Big business is invariably the supporter of fascism, no matter what a fascist movement’s rhetoric contains, and is invariably the beneficiary. We often think of fascism in the classical 1930s form, of Nazis goose-stepping or the street violence of Benito Mussolini’s followers. But it took somewhat different forms later in the 20th century, being instituted through military dictatorships in Chile and Argentina. Any fascism that might arise in the U.S. would be wrapped in right-wing populism and, given the particular social constructs there, that populism would include demands to “return to the Constitution” and “secure the borders.”
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