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Thursday, May 16, 2019 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Pray for violent acts of god to destroy everything so you can blame it on Trump.

Maybe that will work.

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I read a story today where Trump says it is not his fault his business is in decline:

To explain the declines at Doral, the Trump Organisation issued a statement to The Washington Post that implicitly contradicted its own tax consultant and blamed factors that had nothing to do with Trump's name. The company cited fears of the Zika virus in 2016, and hurricanes in 2016 and 2017, for driving tourists away from South Florida.

But the statistics provided by the company's consultants to Miami-Dade County - which are legally required to be accurate - showed competing resorts in the same region of Florida still outperformed the Trump resort in the key metrics of room occupancy and average room rate.

"They are severely underperforming" other resorts in the area, tax consultant Jessica Vachiratevanurak told a Miami-Dade County official in a bid to lower the property's tax bill. The reason, she said: "There is some negative connotation that is associated with the brand."

In two years, the resort's net operating income - a key figure, representing the amount left over after expenses are paid - had fallen by 69 per cent.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-business-decline-flori
da-doral-resort-documents-anu-717-am-a8916076.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, May 16, 2019 9:04 PM

75% of women who obtain abortions are low-income, with nearly half living below the federal poverty level.
www.marketwatch.com/story/nearly-half-of-women-who-have-abortions-live
-below-in-the-federal-poverty-level-2019-05-17


Alabama’s Extremist Abortion Bill Ruins John Roberts’ Roe v. Wade Plan

There are easy and near invisible ways for the Supreme court to end Roe v. Wade. The five Republican justices in the majority could do it while finding ways to say that abortion regulations were not an “undue burden” on a woman’s right to choose. The courts and state legislatures could continue their lilting love songs to the need for the states to protect maternal health and to help confused mommies make good choices, and nobody need dirty their hands by acknowledging that the three decades’ worth of cumbersome clinic regulations and admitting privileges laws were just pretexts for closing clinics and ending abortion altogether.

Why feel sorry for John Roberts? Because what keeps the Supreme Court in business is polite subterfuge. It’s easiest when the court pretends to be a bit more human than it is while what are essentially unvarnished religious arguments get dressed up in platitudes about patient care, informed consent, maternal information, and solicitude for mothers in distress.

But the state of Alabama runs now to the Supreme Court with its mask of tender solicitude for women and their health askew. The briefest look at the debate as Alabama on Tuesday passed the cruelest and most punitive abortion regulation in modern American history shows exactly how much concern they have for the health of pregnant women. Every woman who suffers an unwanted pregnancy is bad, her baby is good, and such a woman should be punished and made to suffer for her sins. It’s about God. That makes things awkward for Chief Justice John Roberts and his tacit scheme to overturn Roe v. Wade.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/alabama-abortion-bill-supr
eme-court-john-roberts-roe.html




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 17, 2019 8:00 PM

Antitrust law can be used to dismantle the worst monopolists. But Galbraith believed that in an advanced capitalist economy, the inevitability of bigness needed to be recognized, even embraced. “People want large tasks performed,” he wrote, and “large tasks require large organizations. That’s the way it is.”

Once you accept that premise, the implications are clear. Bigness can only be checked by bigness. A healthy economy was one in which these countervailing powers balance each other. An unhealthy economy is one in which one or more of these powers was left to run roughshod.

We are, today, in an unhealthy economy.

It’s not just economic power that corporations and their owners have amassed. In the post-Citizens United era, they’ve been unleashed to purchase political power, which has made government, from the corporate perspective, into more of a cooperative power to corporations than a countervailing one. And a decades-long legal and regulatory onslaught has weakened labor unions as a check in the workplace and the political sphere.

A rediscovery of Galbraith’s ideas on "Countervailing powers" could clarify the deeper argument Democratic Presidential candidates are having, and permit clearer questions: Which institutions would they like to see gain power, and how would they do it? Which sectors would they like to see lose power, and what would that mean?

More at "Countervailing powers: the forgotten economic idea Democrats need to rediscover"
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/17/18626801/2020-democrats-sand
ers-warren-buttigieg-power-socialism


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 17, 2019 11:29 PM

We've been in an unhealthy economy for at least 2 decades.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Friday, May 17, 2019 11:45 PM

This Alabama abortion bill is a gift to democrats one year before the elections. Thanks guys...
T





Quote:

Originally posted by second:
75% of women who obtain abortions are low-income, with nearly half living below the federal poverty level.
www.marketwatch.com/story/nearly-half-of-women-who-have-abortions-live
-below-in-the-federal-poverty-level-2019-05-17


Alabama’s Extremist Abortion Bill Ruins John Roberts’ Roe v. Wade Plan

There are easy and near invisible ways for the Supreme court to end Roe v. Wade. The five Republican justices in the majority could do it while finding ways to say that abortion regulations were not an “undue burden” on a woman’s right to choose. The courts and state legislatures could continue their lilting love songs to the need for the states to protect maternal health and to help confused mommies make good choices, and nobody need dirty their hands by acknowledging that the three decades’ worth of cumbersome clinic regulations and admitting privileges laws were just pretexts for closing clinics and ending abortion altogether.

Why feel sorry for John Roberts? Because what keeps the Supreme Court in business is polite subterfuge. It’s easiest when the court pretends to be a bit more human than it is while what are essentially unvarnished religious arguments get dressed up in platitudes about patient care, informed consent, maternal information, and solicitude for mothers in distress.

But the state of Alabama runs now to the Supreme Court with its mask of tender solicitude for women and their health askew. The briefest look at the debate as Alabama on Tuesday passed the cruelest and most punitive abortion regulation in modern American history shows exactly how much concern they have for the health of pregnant women. Every woman who suffers an unwanted pregnancy is bad, her baby is good, and such a woman should be punished and made to suffer for her sins. It’s about God. That makes things awkward for Chief Justice John Roberts and his tacit scheme to overturn Roe v. Wade.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/alabama-abortion-bill-supr
eme-court-john-roberts-roe.html




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 17, 2019 11:52 PM

lol.

Roe vs. Wade is not going to be overturned.

There is no gift. Just more chicken little media.

You can put that in the prediction thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 18, 2019 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol.

Roe vs. Wade is not going to be overturned.

There is no gift. Just more chicken little media.

You can put that in the prediction thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Pre-viability bans (bans on abortions prior to 24 weeks) like the Alabama ban have never been enforced. Some of them have been enacted by a state but none of them have been enforced. That's because of the litigation that has stopped them from going into effect. But this time feels different because the law is anything that five Republican justices on the Supreme Court say it is.

We are getting some pretty arbitrary and capricious decisions from Trump and he chose two justices specifically to overturn Roe v. Wade. Anything could happen at the Supreme Court, especially since none of the GOP justices have to worry about being reelected in 2020. They can do whatever their hearts are pleased to do and there will be no consequences for themselves.

www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-abortion-bill-fact-check/index
.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 18, 2019 4:49 PM

Not going to happen.

Overturning Roe vs. Wade is going to ensure that Trump loses and we don't see another Republican elected for a generation.

This is just another dead-end to try to get Trump removed. I wonder what it will be next week.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 18, 2019 5:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Not going to happen.

Overturning Roe vs. Wade is going to ensure that Trump loses and we don't see another Republican elected for a generation.

This is just another dead-end to try to get Trump removed. I wonder what it will be next week.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The Supreme Court won't make a decision until after the 2020 election because the wheels of justice turn exceedingly slow, so overturning Roe v. Wade won't have any affect on Trump's election. Trump's popularity has not suffered from his cramming hundreds of hyper-conservative judges onto the court system. That is because 99% of voters don't know/care where judges come from (the GOP) and who picks them (Trump).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Dona
ld_Trump


Five of the country's 12 circuit courts are now composed of more than 25 percent of Trump-appointed judges. We all deserve judges who can be fair and impartial, but we are not getting that. That's why protecting our courts needs to be a two-party job. Democrats and Republicans alike owe it to the American people to ensure that the federal courts remain an impartial institution administering 'equal justice for all,' not just the wealthy and the powerful.

The GOP has the Federalist Society. Trump nominees are members of the Federalist Society, an elite group that has made a point of creating a pipeline of future judges.

Last year, at its annual gala, the group honored former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — a nod to their success in confirming federal judges. In a year-end fundraising letter for 2018, the Society reported that its network now numbers 75,000 people and "we are on the eve of closing a calendar year that was hardly imaginable in our early days."

It continued: "Our members--students, lawyers, law professors, legislators, public officials and more--are filling key positions in state and federal governments, in academia, and the private sector."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, May 18, 2019 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by second:
We all deserve judges who can be fair and impartial, but we are not getting that.



We're never going to get that.

I once thought that if we waited long enough for an AI to come along that was up to the job and we surrendered to their own judgement that it would be possible, but recent revelations about how algorithms have been designed and carried out to bring the "correct" news to people doing searches for news proves otherwise.

Any AI derived from humankind will be just as imperfect and petty as mankind itself.

Impartiality is a dream.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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