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Sunday, April 25, 2021 7:17 PM

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Originally posted by THG:
Trump's 'eighth wonder of the world' is no more: The $10 billion Foxconn factory is dramatically downsized

The $10 billion factory that Taiwanese electronics company Foxconn was set to build in Wisconsin, and that former President Trump hailed as the new "eighth wonder of the world", has been drastically scaled back.

This week Foxconn has confirmed that its investment in the Wisconsin plant has been reduced to just $672 million

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-s-eighth-wonder-of-the-world-i
s-no-more/ss-BB1fU1T7?ocid=msedgntp



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Yup. Taiwan decided that we're not nearly as attractive a place to start a new facility with Democrats running the show. Maybe they'll change their mind after the mid-terms.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Monday, April 26, 2021 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yup. Taiwan decided that we're not nearly as attractive a place to start a new facility with Democrats running the show. Maybe they'll change their mind after the mid-terms.


Beyond the grandiose promises initially made about the plant — which Trump hailed as the "eighth wonder of the world" — the price tag of the original incentive deal was one of the concerns that attracted so much attention to the project.
"Conservatively, it was over $200,000 per job," said Tim Bartik, senior economist at the WE Upjohn Institute for Employment Research, a nonpartisan think tank that studied the original deal. "Typically for a new company, incentives are close to $50,000 per job. This new package is close to that."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/22/tech/foxconn-wisconsin-factory-scaled-d
own/index.html


Republicans are really bad at math. That's why they run up deficits and the Dems have to bring them down with economic growth.


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Monday, April 26, 2021 12:26 AM

Republicans' strategy now relies entirely on stoking the eternal 'victimhood' of their voters
https://www.alternet.org/2021/04/gop-victims/?utm_source=&utm_medi
um=email&utm_campaign=7018&recip_id=28351&list_id=2


Thomas Edsall, writing for The New York Times convincingly suggests that the glue that bound Republicans together in 2016 and 2020 owes far more to simple psychology than any real sense of economic deprivation, lost economic status, or lack of educational attainment. It is a psychology of injured pride and fear of lost status, an unending sense of victimhood, carefully prodded and cultivated—most visibly by Trump himself since taking office, and now adopted by the rest of the Republican Party as their sole political strategy going forward.

This formula is hardly unique to Trump or the GOP. As pointed out by Alexandra Homolar and Georg Lofflmann, two authors quoted by Edsall, the "humiliation" narrative of victimhood is one commonly employed by so-called populist demagogues thoughout Europe and elsewhere.

From the abstract of their research paper, Populism and the Affective Politics of Humiliation Narratives:

As we show, within the populist security imaginary, humiliation is the key discursive mechanism that helps turn abstract notions of enmity into politically consequential affective narratives of loss, betrayal, and oppression. Humiliation binds together an ostensibly conflicting sense of national greatness and victimhood to achieve an emotive response that enables a radical departure from established domestic and international policy norms and problematizes policy choices centered on collaboration, dialogue, and peaceful conflict resolution.

In more simple terms, by constantly stoking this over-arching narrative of perpetual victimhood, a demagogue such as Trump (or anyone else) can motivate his followers to reject the very tools of democratic governance that a country such as the U.S. relies on to resolve political differences. This is why millions of Trump voters were so primed and ready to believe that the election was somehow "stolen" from them by some murky, nefarious means. This is the psychology that prompted thousands of conspiracy-addled insurrectionists to attack the U.S. Capitol. It's why despite being the very targets of that mob of rioters, the vast majority of Republican legislators have refused and will continue to refuse to acknowledge the truth about what prompted those attacks.

These legislators are duplicitous—and in most cases, knowingly so. But as things currently stand, they know that any departure from the victimhood narrative will be met with howls of outrage by their constituents. So they will continue to parrot it, because as Trump amply demonstrated, the tactic works. As astounding as it is, white Republican voters, who by many objective measures are some of the most privileged, pampered people in the world, now consider themselves as victims.




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THG
Tuesday, April 27, 2021 6:32 PM

The Trump Organization charged taxpayers for undisclosed stays and luxury car rentals at his foreign golf resorts

US taxpayers paid thousands of dollars to Donald Trump's resorts in Ireland and Scotland in 2017, during previously undisclosed visits.

The Scotsman reported on expenses showing taxpayers were charged for Secret Service accommodation during stays by Trump's son Eric.

The receipts provide further evidence of how the former president's family benefited from his time in office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-organization-charged
-taxpayers-for-undisclosed-stays-and-luxury-car-rentals-at-his-foreign-golf-resorts/ar-BB1g6mSc?ocid=msedgntp




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Wednesday, April 28, 2021 4:03 AM

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Republicans' strategy now relies entirely on stoking the eternal 'victimhood' of their voters
https://www.alternet.org/2021/04/gop-victims/

As astounding as it is, white Republican voters, who by many objective measures are some of the most privileged, pampered people in the world, now consider themselves as victims.

Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller is suing the federal government over a program that provides debt relief to racially and ethnically diverse farmers and ranchers that he says discriminates against white ones, including himself.

Miller, who filed the suit Monday in federal court in Fort Worth, is pursuing the issue in a personal capacity, not as part of official role or on behalf of the state. The commissioner, who owns and operates a ranch near Stephenville, about 70 miles southwest of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, is being represented by lawyers from the America First Legal Foundation. The Washington-based conservative nonprofit was founded by former Trump adviser Stephen Miller.

Miller’s suit seeks class action relief for all white farmers and for U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor to put a stop to the program.

Freshman Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., had called the aid plan racist, and asked for the Department of Justice to investigate it as a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to agricultural magazine Progressive Farmer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210427215850/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-Ag-Commissioner-sues-Biden-administration-16133208.php




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Sunday, May 16, 2021 6:25 PM

Donald Trump's new blog crashed after he posted an unverified claim about election fraud in Arizona

Former President Donald Trump's blog crashed on Saturday after he posted about an Arizona recount. His post alleged massive fraud in the form of "broken seals on boxes, ballots missing, and worse." Trump launched the "From the Desk of Donald J. Trump" blog earlier this month.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-s-new-blog-crashe
d-after-he-posted-an-unverified-claim-about-election-fraud-in-arizona/ar-BB1gMDfe?ocid=msedgntp




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THG
Sunday, May 16, 2021 6:38 PM

Trump: ‘The entire database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!’





GOP election official in the Arizona county targeted by ballot recount called Trump 'unhinged' and said 'we can't indulge these insane lies'

GOP election official Stephen Richer called Trump "unhinged" over claims about the election. Richer leads the elections department in Maricopa County, where a GOP-backed recount is taking place. "We can't indulge these insane lies any longer. As a party. As a state. As a country," he said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-election-official-in-the-a
rizona-county-targeted-by-ballot-recount-called-trump-unhinged-and-said-we-can-t-indulge-these-insane-lies/ar-BB1gMC60?ocid=msedgntp




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Sunday, May 16, 2021 7:19 PM

Historians will note that Trump is using crazier lies after he left the White House. There is no Cabinet to tell him he can't say that because it is indecent as they did while he was President:

Donald J. Trump 12:07pm May 15, 2021 www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-qt8ayyzxe7/

As our Country is being destroyed, both inside and out, the Presidential Election of 2020 will go down as THE CRIME OF THE CENTURY!

Donald J. Trump 12:35pm May 15, 2021 www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-m9xwwg56fp/

Wall Street Journal has reported (they finally got something right), that 2020 was the “Worst Presidential Poll Miss in 40 Years.” The public opinion surveys ahead of the 2020 Presidential Election were the most inaccurate ever, according to a major polling panel. This was done purposely. The polls were a joke. I won States in a landslide that I was predicted to lose days before the election. Other states had me purposely so far down that it would force people, even fans, to say “Let's stay home Darling. We love our President, but he can’t win.” And then I would win those states or at least come very close. In one state that I actually won, but the results were rigged, ABC and the Washington Post had me down by 17 points. Even the rigged final result was extremely close. It’s called SUPPRESSION POLLING and it should be illegal. These are crooked, disgusting, and very dishonest media outlets and they know exactly what they are doing. The 2020 Presidential Election was, by far, the greatest Election Fraud in the history of our Country. The good news is, the American people get it and the truth is rapidly coming out! Had Mike Pence had the courage to send the Electoral College vote back to states for recertification, and had Mitch McConnell fought for us instead of being the weak and pathetic leader he is, we would right now have a Republican President who would be VETOING the horrific Socialistic Bills that are rapidly going through Congress, including Open Borders, High Taxes, Massive Regulations, and so much else!

Donald J. Trump 2:12pm May 15, 2021 www.donaldjtrump.com/desk/desk-4yeh37peju/

The entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED! This is illegal and the Arizona State Senate, who is leading the Forensic Audit, is up in arms. Additionally, seals were broken on the boxes that hold the votes, ballots are missing, and worse. Mark Brnovich, the Attorney General of Arizona, will now be forced to look into this unbelievable Election crime. Many Radical Left Democrats and weak Republicans are very worried about the fact that this has been exposed. The DELETION of an entire Database and critical Election files of Maricopa County is unprecedented. Many other States to follow. The Mainstream Media and Radical Left Democrats want to stay as far away as possible from the Presidential Election Fraud, which should be one of the biggest stories of our time. Fox News is afraid to cover it—there is rarely a mention. Likewise, Newsmax has been virtually silent on this subject because they are intimidated by threats of lawsuits. One America News (OAN), one of the fastest growing networks on television, and the “hottest”, is doing a magnificent job of exposing the massive fraud that took place. The story is only getting bigger and at some point it will be impossible for the weak and/or corrupt media not to cover. Thank you to OAN and other brave American Patriots. It is all happening quickly!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 17, 2021 8:36 AM

GOP Arizona Election Official Blasts “Unhinged” Trump: “Insane Lies”

The Republican official who heads up the Arizona county elections department that is subject to an ongoing audit of the results from the 2020 presidential election has publicly lashed out against former President Donald Trump for spreading lies. Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer didn’t just criticize Trump, he also pointed the finger at other fellow Republicans who allow the misinformation to continue. Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer took to Twitter on Saturday to call a Trump statement that claimed the county had deleted an elections database as “unhinged,” assuring absolutely nothing had happened to the archive. “We can’t indulge these insane lies any longer. As a party. As a state. As a country. This is as readily falsifiable as 2+2=5. If we don’t call this out…” Richer wrote on Twitter.

Richer sent the tweet after Trump issued a statement in which he said there had been a “DELETION of an entire Database and critical Election files,” which he characterized as “unprecedented.” Richer said Trump’s statement amounted a “plain-as-day lie.”

Richer, who has been in the job since January after defeating the Democratic incumbent, has been pushing back against election fraud claims that are being pushed by Republican leaders. “Enough with the defamation. Enough with the unfounded allegations,” Richer tweeted Thursday. He expressed frustration that instead of focusing on his job he now has to defend himself from accusations “of shredding ballots and deleting files” coming from members of his own party.

Richer isn’t the only one pushing back. Jack Sellers, a Republican who is the chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors has been publicly criticizing the company that was hired to do the audit. “I know you all have grown weary of lies and half-truths six months after 2020 General Elections,” Sellers said as he announced a public hearing Monday to push back against the lies that are being peddled about the election. The hearing is taking place after Republican Senate President Karen Fann said “serious issues” had been found in the audit. But Sellers says that has more do with their ignorance of elections than anything else. “It’s clearer by the day: the people hired by the Senate are in way over their heads,” Sellers said. “This is not funny; this is dangerous.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20210517023125/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/05/gop-arizona-election-official-unhinged-trump-lies-maricopa.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, May 17, 2021 8:58 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Republicans' strategy now relies entirely on stoking the eternal 'victimhood' of their voters
https://www.alternet.org/2021/04/gop-victims/

As astounding as it is, white Republican voters, who by many objective measures are some of the most privileged, pampered people in the world, now consider themselves as victims.

Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller is suing the federal government over a program that provides debt relief to racially and ethnically diverse farmers and ranchers that he says discriminates against white ones, including himself.

Miller, who filed the suit Monday in federal court in Fort Worth, is pursuing the issue in a personal capacity, not as part of official role or on behalf of the state. The commissioner, who owns and operates a ranch near Stephenville, about 70 miles southwest of the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, is being represented by lawyers from the America First Legal Foundation. The Washington-based conservative nonprofit was founded by former Trump adviser Stephen Miller.

Miller’s suit seeks class action relief for all white farmers and for U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor to put a stop to the program.

Freshman Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., had called the aid plan racist, and asked for the Department of Justice to investigate it as a violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to agricultural magazine Progressive Farmer.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210427215850/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/politics/texas/article/Texas-Ag-Commissioner-sues-Biden-administration-16133208.php




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





Roomba never replied to you, huh?

How rude.



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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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