Countdown Clock to Trumps impeachment " STARTS"
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Manafort associate had Russian intelligence ties during 2016 campaign, prosecutors say
The FBI has found that a business associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort had ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, including during the 2016 campaign when Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, were in touch with the associate, according to new court filings.
I think this is what will play out in the end: Mueller finds the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to gain an advantage in the 2016 campaign, but Mueller will be unable to pin anything specific to Trump. He's been around too long to not know that when there are dirty deeds to do, you have your people do them for you and you stand clear while they take any heat. And when they do take the fall you say the nicest things about them as they are dragged off. "Flynn, he was a great guy, treated poorly."
Remember, it's a conspiracy between both parties that is the chargeable offense. Mueller may have that when it comes to the campaign itself. Then there is the possibility they have evidence of a coverup by the president and others associated with the campaign. Or finally, obstruction of justice.
These only concern the election and I'm sure I've missed a few. Then there is the rest like money laundering. Has Trump been compromised by a foreign country? What if anything will his family be charged with? Will his wife leave him and what if anything will Mueller do with the Stormy Daniels case. She says she was threatened and the money used to pay her off may have violated campaign finance laws. She was paid off so she could not influence the election. That too may have ramifications.
Perhaps best of all is that Trump has shit lawyers. All the really good ones don't want any part of this, or him.
Are you saying if individuals in his campaign are guilty of collusion then he is as well by extension? I'm not familiar with how that charge would work exactly.
Otherwise , yes - I agree with your list of other offenses he may be charged with.
I hope they don't try the campaign finance charge with him because of Daniels. I hate the guy and can't wait to see him gone, but that seems a stretch, even desperate to me.
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Manafort associate had Russian intelligence ties during 2016 campaign, prosecutors say
The FBI has found that a business associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort had ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, including during the 2016 campaign when Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, were in touch with the associate, according to new court filings.
I think this is what will play out in the end: Mueller finds the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to gain an advantage in the 2016 campaign, but Mueller will be unable to pin anything specific to Trump. He's been around too long to not know that when there are dirty deeds to do, you have your people do them for you and you stand clear while they take any heat. And when they do take the fall you say the nicest things about them as they are dragged off. "Flynn, he was a great guy, treated poorly."
Remember, it's a conspiracy between both parties that is the chargeable offense. Mueller may have that when it comes to the campaign itself. Then there is the possibility they have evidence of a coverup by the president and others associated with the campaign. Or finally, obstruction of justice.
These only concern the election and I'm sure I've missed a few. Then there is the rest like money laundering. Has Trump been compromised by a foreign country? What if anything will his family be charged with? Will his wife leave him and what if anything will Mueller do with the Stormy Daniels case. She says she was threatened and the money used to pay her off may have violated campaign finance laws. She was paid off so she could not influence the election. That too may have ramifications.
Perhaps best of all is that Trump has shit lawyers. All the really good ones don't want any part of this, or him.
Are you saying if individuals in his campaign are guilty of collusion then he is as well by extension? I'm not familiar with how that charge would work exactly.
Otherwise , yes - I agree with your list of other offenses he may be charged with.
I hope they don't try the campaign finance charge with him because of Daniels. I hate the guy and can't wait to see him gone, but that seems a stretch, even desperate to me.
I don't know if Trump is guilty by extension unless he was in the loop. It looks to me like he was. He was involved in creating a response to his sons contacts with the Russians. Even though it was after the fact, he may have been involved in real time with the Russian meeting.
Special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional investigators have interviewed roughly 50 people who work at the White House or were involved in Donald Trump’s campaign. That number needs to be updated. It's a month old. There is so much we don't know. Lets not forget Wikileaks.
Hey, campaign finance laws are very important and can not be ignored. The consequences could be catastrophic in the future if a precedent is set here. One that ignores Trump doing it because it is a hot button issue. And don't forget. Daniels said she was threatened.
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The New York Times reports that Trump's former lawyer John Dowd once discussed the idea of pardons for Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn. NYT reporter Michael Schmidt joins MSNBC to explain his latest report.Mar.28.2018
http://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/nyt-trump-s-former-lawyer-once
-discussed-pardons-for-manafort-and-flynn-1197058627642
If Trumps lawyer actually spoke to the attorneys of Flynn and Manafort as three different sources claim, and told them Trump would pardon them at the time he did, in an attempt to shut them up, think obstruction of justice big time.
One thing is certain. When charges are filed by Mueller they are thorough and appear to be unbeatable or unassailable so far.
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Only 2,589 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.
How exciting. 880933
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I think, from all the reports I've heard since the beginning of this mess, that both Pence and Sessions may have to "face the music" as well. Pence because of the whole deal with Kelly (he may have lied about what he knew and when he knew it). Remember, Pence was in charge of the transition team; and Sessions because of his cover-up of meeting with Kislyak.
Sessions forgot to mention to Congress about meeting with the Russian Ambassador. Of course, not until Franken asked him the broad open question
regarding communications between the Trump administration, it's surrogates and Russian government officials; did this become an issue.
And then:
Perjury is a serious charge; but Sessions did lie to Congress. Either that or he is feeble-minded. But he eventually recused himself because of conflict of interest. Pence isn't far behind.
SGG
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The New York Times reports that Trump's former lawyer John Dowd once discussed the idea of pardons for Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn. NYT reporter Michael Schmidt joins MSNBC to explain his latest report.Mar.28.2018
http://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/nyt-trump-s-former-lawyer-once
-discussed-pardons-for-manafort-and-flynn-1197058627642
If Trumps lawyer actually spoke to the attorneys of Flynn and Manafort as three different sources claim, and told them Trump would pardon them at the time he did, in an attempt to shut them up, think obstruction of justice big time.
One thing is certain. When charges are filed by Mueller they are thorough and appear to be unbeatable or unassailable so far.
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Trump is destroying Trump...
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe
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Nah. He's alright.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.
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So, is this the work of the Deep State International? Domestic?
Personally, I think, above all, it's a distraction - a misdirection play. Gathering evidence? Of what exactly....counterintelligence!? That connotes that there was "intelligence" gathered to begin with. Ying/Yang....for every action there's an opposite and equal(?) reaction.
Well, now....we shall see, won't we.
SGG
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I'm beginning to think that Trump was just playing rope-a-dope, and took a lot of punches while his people were gathering evidence. Counter-investigations are heating up.
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Of course he's alright.....he's got it all under control...nothing to see here.
"These are not the droids you're looking for"
SGG
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Nah. He's alright.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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