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Wash and his rise to Bad Assness

POSTED BY: ScottishBrownCoat
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 06:31
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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 1:57 PM

There is a lot of Buzz about the new look of Wash.

I think we will see that in the 'six months' since the events of the OIS that Wash will have become more of a Bad Ass, maybe S*it has really hit the fan.

Even Book had changed a little As Nathan said in a post, Book reminds him more of a Shaman now, and there have probably been significant changes in how the Crew is dealing with the 'verse.

Back to Wash.....
We already saw him start to get tough with Niska and his henchmen, I mean until then he wasn't one to storm the castle, but after that experience he was all 'lock n load'.

So we might find that he has toughened up a good bit, due to the events from the 'past six months'.

Any thoughts??

~SBC

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:15 PM

It's entirely possible that he will be a fully functioning Bad Ass, and I think that would rule. The potential for it has always been there, but it seemed more important to make him the comic relief. Should that continue-- Wash as the funny who tends to diffuse situations, him turning into an asskicker will be exceptionally dramatic.

On a personal note, if this new uniform/jumpsuit is part of his remarkable war past or some new form of current badassery, anything really, I may actually drop dead of lust right there in the theatre. I had a full-on disco freak-out yesterday when I first saw the picture.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:30 PM

If Wash has become a bad ass, I hope Tudyk's acting has improved - his Leave no man behind delivery was laughable. Watch Ejiofor, people, he'll blow them off the screen.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 2:41 PM

FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS. . .

Two points. . .

1: Wash is a PILOT. And speaking as a PILOT, (A Gunship pilot, did I mention? That's right. . .I fly. . .I fly gunships. . .I'm a gunship pilot. Ladies, commence to swooning) I can tell you that such comes with BAD-ASSNESS PRE-INSTALLED.

2. Folks. . .look at the pics in CONTEXT. With the exception of the. . .ummm. . .exceptional Summer Glau (drool, drool, lust, swoon), the pics are very candid and the subjects are 'mugging' for the camera. Perchance this was not a picture of "Wash" but of Alan Tudyk?

Maybe someone had commented to Alan, "Ya know. . .with those shades on, you resemble David Caruso a-la CSI: Miami" and Alan says, "Oooooh! Cool! Adam, quick! Take my picture whilst I assume a Caruso-ish pose!"

As much as I think evolving to embittered bad-assness would be an intriguing development for the character of Wash. . .I don't welcome it. I realize that it's completely formulaic, but it's nice having the 'resident goofball' on the crew. . .even if he DOES have to snap and go Tarantino on someone once in a while. Would "The A-Team" been as much fun without 'Howling Mad' Murdock? And isn't the absolute BEAUTY of his relationship with Zoe the fact that they're polar opposites. . .she's a nubian warrior goddess. . .he's a little Irish goofball. . .yet he smacks her ass and rocks her world in bed?

PLEASE tell me that someone out there agrees with me?

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 3:09 PM

I personally reckon althuogh he admits himself that he is a semi muscular man, he is just that, he is not the kind of guy who will always go into a fight with a fist, he is more likely to let his wife do that. He has the potential to be tougher, but usually prefers to use humour first which could be one of the many unfathomable reasons Zoe married him against Mal's orders. Who knows, maybe she initially did it just to annoy Mal!!!!

I dont think he will be a badass any more than he was, because we already have Mal, mad bad Jayne, and Zoe, and of course Book is hiding a lot but he too is a tough cookie. I think it would be a shame if Wash was changed too much as I like the comic relief and his lightness when the others are often serious and down about a situation.

As he says to Kaylee in Heart of Gold, everyone knows I'm the funny one, and I think he just that!!

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 3:26 PM

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Originally posted by Static:
FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS FOLKS. . .

Two points. . .

1: Wash is a PILOT. And speaking as a PILOT, (A Gunship pilot, did I mention? That's right. . .I fly. . .I fly gunships. . .I'm a gunship pilot. Ladies, commence to swooning) I can tell you that such comes with BAD-ASSNESS PRE-INSTALLED.

2. Folks. . .look at the pics in CONTEXT. With the exception of the. . .ummm. . .exceptional Summer Glau (drool, drool, lust, swoon), the pics are very candid and the subjects are 'mugging' for the camera. Perchance this was not a picture of "Wash" but of Alan Tudyk?

Maybe someone had commented to Alan, "Ya know. . .with those shades on, you resemble David Caruso a-la CSI: Miami" and Alan says, "Oooooh! Cool! Adam, quick! Take my picture whilst I assume a Caruso-ish pose!"

As much as I think evolving to embittered bad-assness would be an intriguing development for the character of Wash. . .I don't welcome it. I realize that it's completely formulaic, but it's nice having the 'resident goofball' on the crew. . .even if he DOES have to snap and go Tarantino on someone once in a while. Would "The A-Team" been as much fun without 'Howling Mad' Murdock? And isn't the absolute BEAUTY of his relationship with Zoe the fact that they're polar opposites. . .she's a nubian warrior goddess. . .he's a little Irish goofball. . .yet he smacks her ass and rocks her world in bed?

PLEASE tell me that someone out there agrees with me?

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."



I agree w/ you on the combat pilots come equipped w/ bad a$$ installed Static. I remember a couple of pilots that flew Blackhawks when I was in the Rangers that were tough as nails and not afraid to get into the thick of things. Those are combat pilots though. I don't think Wash has ever served as a combat pilot.

If we look at Wash's character up to the point of OiS, he really only seems to touch on the warrior within once, in War Stories. Part of that was his desire to save Mal, but I think part of that was also his desire to strike back at his tormentors.

This new look for Wash does not necessarily mean his now a bad ass. It could simply be what we see, an new look.It could simply be part of the new flashy Hollywood big screen budget.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 3:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Static:
"Ya know. . .with those shades on, you resemble David Caruso a-la CSI: Miami" and Alan says, "Oooooh! Cool! Adam, quick! Take my picture whilst I assume a Caruso-ish pose!"



Hmmm. I see the correlation. Caruso didn't come to my mind cause I don't watch CSI:Miami. I thought Wash just flew in from Top Gun, where he graduated first in his class and left a legacy of "stunts" surpassing any that ol' Maverick pulled back in the day.

There is something sexy about a man with a wicked sense of humor. Zoe didn't like him at ALL at first - maybe she didn't want to admit it or she didn't know WHY he "bothered" her. Sometimes those initial feelings do end up turning right around... remember Buffy with Angel - "You know, I REALLY didn't like him," which was essentially a cover-up because who wouldn't have thought Angel was handsome. Wash and Zoe do seem like an unlikely couple, polar opposites on some levels, but they managed to fall for each other anyway.

I don't mind Wash getting serious and showing off his badassness. It's manly. But I don't think Joss would write the humor out of his character.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 4:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Static:

And isn't the absolute BEAUTY of his relationship with Zoe the fact that they're polar opposites. . .she's a nubian warrior goddess. . .he's a little Irish goofball. . .yet he smacks her ass and rocks her world in bed?

PLEASE tell me that someone out there agrees with me?



Definintely I do not agree about the David Caruso and CSI:Miami bits. Caruso and pretty much everything he thinks about sucks out loud.

What I do agree with is the official goofball - opposites attract - ass smacking world rocker that is naturally badass pilot Wash. Hell yes.

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 4:14 PM

I agree with you 100%. I LIKE that Wash is the comic relief. There are plenty of bad-asses on the ship already. Wash evolved into another bad-ass would just be too zombifying. It's his PERSONALITY to be a smart-ass -- not a bad-ass -- and I LIKE his personality.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 4:19 PM

Agree. While I like that Wash has a backbone, you can't turn him into a fighter, you need the contrast of someone a little funnier and less brave, but without making him the stereotypical comic relief.

"I left my heart in Serenity Valley"

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