A sensible discussion about Russia's threat to the USA
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Quote:Yeah, THUGR is pretty ridiculous, isn't he?
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Soros troll!
Now, since none of the Three Caballeros seem to want to answer the question- WHICH INTERESTS OF OURS DOES RUSSIA THREATEN? do you want to take a stab at it?
Because so far, all they've come up with is bupkis.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Okay, one more try.
I'm trying to explain to myself why you collectively spend so much time fixated on Russia. In the past, I've been accused of being entranced with Putin, but the people who have an unwavering stare at all things Russian is .... you all.
Why are you so fixated on Russia? If you're afraid of something, what is it? If you're NOT afraid of anything, but you have other reasons to focus on Russia, just say that Russia isn't threatening any vital interests and then we can move on.
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR: You're delusional, so- whatever.
OK, question number 1 to SIG and she does not answer.
Question 2 SIG:
Did you change the title of the thread? Did you add the part about the United States?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, one more try.
I'm trying to explain to myself why you collectively spend so much time fixated on Russia. In the past, I've been accused of being entranced with Putin, but the people who have an unwavering stare at all things Russian is .... you all.
Why are you so fixated on Russia? If you're afraid of something, what is it? If you're NOT afraid of anything, but you have other reasons to focus on Russia, just say that Russia isn't threatening any vital interests and then we can move on.
No SIG, per your request, we are supposed to discuss Russia. You can't and won't because as I and others are saying, you are a Russian troll. You even changed the title of the thread twice now to get out of it. Thank you, you proved us all right. lol
Twenty five posts now and nothing but deflection by you. Including continually changing the title of the thread.
First: A sensible discussion about Russia.
Second: A sensible discussion about Russia and it's threat to the United States.
Third: A sensible discussion about Russia's threat to the USA
Without a doubt SIG you are a troll and you are Russian.
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Quote:Yep, you have continually deflected my question!
Twenty five posts now and nothing but deflection by you.
Quote:I have not changed it once. Either you're paranoid, or you're drinking heavily again, or you're lying.
Including continually changing the title of the thread.
I have repeatedly asked for YOUR OPINION about Russia, specifically: Is it a threat to us (for G and KPO: "to the United States")?
If so, along what lines? Does Russia threaten our borders? Our internal security? Our source of oil? Our shipping? Something else? If so, what? (I've already listed one threat, and I've got a couple more in my back pocket I think we need to be careful of, but I'm waiting for your answers.)
If Russia does NOT threaten us ("the USA") why else are you focusing on Russia? Is it a human rights concern?
Yanno, for people who endlessly ... and I mean endlessly... criticize Russia and impugn my motivations, you all seem remarkably unable or unwilling to explain YOUR motivations.
Why is that?
Do you have something to hide?
Take that stiff drink, THUGR, and man up! 'Splain yourself on this board!
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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.
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Here you go SIG. I gleefully await your none support of Russia response.
Quote Me
Including continually changing the title of the thread.
Quote SIG
I have not changed it once. Either you're paranoid, or you're drinking heavily again, or you're lying.
My Response
Yes you have. The title started out as “a sensible discussion about Russia."
Quote SIG
I have repeatedly asked for YOUR OPINION about Russia
My Response
And when we start you cry foul and change the title of the thread.
Quote SIG
specifically is it a threat to us (for G and KPO: "to the United States")?
My Response
Russia is a threat to the world so then yes it is a threat to us. Especially when it has dictators like Putin controlling it.
Quote SIG
If so, along what lines? Does Russia threaten our borders? Our internal security? Something else?
My Response
Let’s see, does Russia threaten our border? No, but what Russia is doing in Syria is threatening the borders of Europe (NATO). Destabilizing NATO definitely effects us. How are they doing this? They are bombing hospitals and civilians indiscriminately and forcing millions of Syrians to migrate there. They are also starving Syrian’s in an attempt to either force them out or into capitulation . Women and children SIG. That’s why Russia bombed the UN convoy. The convoy would have taken the denial of food and medicine off the table as Russian weapons of war.
These migrants are destabilizing the surrounding area's as well. Which is a direct threat to us.
And yes SIG the Russians do represent a threat to our internal security.
They continually get caught hacking into our corporations and defense industries.
They are also a threat to our allies which means they threaten to involve us in a war that way. And they threaten and invade their neighbors which is another way to cause a world war. I'd say that means they are a threat to us.
Quote SIG
If Russia does NOT threaten us ("the USA") why else are you focusing on Russia? Is it a human rights concern?
My Response
Of course Russia’s record on human rights abuses is a concern. Just look at the way they are behaving in Syria and the Ukraine as well as within Russia itself. Because of Putin Stalinism is rearing it's ugly head again. The death toll directly attributable to Stalin’s rule amounted to some 20 million lives
Quote SIG
Yanno, for people who endlessly ... and I mean endlessly... criticize Russia and impugn my motivations, you all seem remarkably unable or unwilling to explain YOUR motivations. Why is that? Do you have something to hide? Take that stiff drink, THUGR, and man up! 'Splain yourself on this board!
My Response
My motivations are to expose you and 1kiki as Russian trolls so others may understand you as you continually attack democracy and it's institutions by portraying them in a negative way. And because Russia is run by a dictator and is so corrupt, it is important to expose Russia as a threat to the world, and any attempt to establish a common rule of law globally.
Either you are a Russian troll or your grasp of world events is on a par with that of a 3rd or 4th grader.
U.S. officials say Russia responsible for attack on Syrian aid convoy
http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/world/2016/09/21/90780146/
Putin, once critical of Stalin, now embraces Soviet dictator's tactics
Putin spoke harshly that day of the notorious World War II-era pact that former Soviet leader Josef Stalin had signed with Adolf Hitler — an agreement that cleared the way for the Nazi occupation of Poland and Soviet domination of the Baltics — calling it a "collusion to solve one's problems at others' expense."
But Putin's view of history appears to have undergone a startling transformation. Last month, the Russian leader praised the 1939 nonaggression accord with Hitler as a clever maneuver that forestalled war wit
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I, for one, welcome Russia's Help when it comes to the threat of Radical Islam.
We are still a powerful nation. At least, I hope we are.
We could broker an agreement with our former enemy to share intelligence on terrorist threats and eliminate them one by one.
My big concern would be China just sitting the fuck out of it.
We deplete our common forces and money to fight the Islam threat to the world while they continue to extort hundreds of billions of dollars a year from the US.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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That being said... as horrible as it sounds.......
If things were to make a wrong turn and we one day lived in a world under Russian or Chinese Communism, although it would be a horrible day indeed, I would welcome it over a world under Islam.
I know that's totally fucked.
But It's True.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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America is trying to help the average Russia taxpayer recoup some of their money from a corrupt government.
U.S. Prosecutors Are Out to Crack Russia’s Crooked Money Machine
U.S. Federal prosecutors just won’t let go of their three-year-old criminal action against alleged beneficiaries of stolen and laundered Russian taxpayer money.
It was launched as part of what’s known as the Magnitsky Affair, a contentious story of scandal, cover-ups and smear campaigns that dates back more than a decade. Over the years, the Kremlin has used every tool it can, including the fate of Russian orphans who might be adopted by Americans, as it tries to thwart calls for justice from the U.S. Congress and the administration.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/22/u-s-prosecutors-are-o
ut-to-crack-russia-s-crooked-money-machine.html
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Here you go SIG. I gleefully await your none support of Russia response.
Including continually changing the title of the thread.- THUGR
I have not changed it once. Either you're paranoid, or you're drinking heavily again, or you're lying.- SIGNY
Yes you have. The title started out as “a sensible discussion about Russia."- THUGR
Uh huh. another false accusation.
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I have repeatedly asked for YOUR OPINION about Russia- SIGNY
And when we start you cry foul and change the title of the thread. -THUGR
Uh huh.
When you're asked, repeatedly, to explain your concerns about Russia you throw a hissy-fit about a non-existent event.
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specifically is it a threat to us (for G and KPO: "to the United States")? - SIGNY
Russia is a threat to the world so then yes it is a threat to us. Especially when it has dictators like Putin controlling it.- THUGR
So, are we "the world"? Are you somehow conflating "the interests of the world" with "the interests of the United States"? In what way are the interests of the United States and the interests of "the world the same? And how, specifically, does Russia threaten them?
Quote:OK, Russia does not threaten our borders. At least that's clear.
If so, along what lines? Does Russia threaten our borders? Our internal security? Something else? -SIGNY
Let’s see, does Russia threaten our border? No
Quote:My brain did that "needle sliding sideways on vinyl" sound. The United States SAYS that Russia bombed the convoy. But Russia made certain data know to the UN and to NATO, and both of those organizations simmered down pretty quickly when they saw whatever it was that Russia showed them. I knew you and KPO would be all over that like white in rice, and as it turns out, I was right.
but what Russia is doing in Syria is threatening the borders of Europe (NATO). Destabilizing NATO definitely effects us. How are they doing this? They are bombing hospitals and civilians indiscriminately and forcing millions of Syrians to migrate there. They are also starving Syrian’s in an attempt to either force them out or into capitulation . Women and children SIG. That’s why Russia bombed the UN convoy.
But let's go back further... are you saying there were NO refugees leaving Syria before Russia become involved (which, as you may recall, began in Sept 2015)? That the entire refugee crisis can be laid at the feet of Russia, and that all of the migrants are Syrian? There are no migrants from Iraq, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Libya, Sudan etc? in Europe? And all of this started just last year, you say?
Quote:There are accusations and denials going back and forth about this. Pictures of the burning trucks do not show "bomb" damage, they look like they were burned in place, which the terrorists ("rebels") could have managed themselves*. Hopefully, enough evidence will come out that will reveal to everyone what happened. But IMHO this is probably another "false flag", like the Sarin gas attack in Ghouta which was engineered to blame Assad. BTW- I was saying the SAME THING then that I'm saying now .... there is physical, electronic, and surveillance evidence which needs to be collected. As an investigative entity, Bellingcat leaves a lot of be desired because there's too much evidence that they don't have access to, and the little that they DO have access to can be -and has in the past been - faked.
The convoy would have taken the denial of food and medicine off the table as Russian weapons of war.
Quote:HOW is it a "direct threat" to us?? Again, have you conflated the EU's interests with ours? I see that there is dissension within the EU against Merkel's refugee policy. So what? I fail to connect the dots between dissension
These migrants are destabilizing the surrounding area's as well. Which is a direct threat to us.- THUGR
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