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Globalization versus anti-globalization

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, September 18, 2025 16:02
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SIGNYM

Tuesday, December 17, 2024 10:25 PM

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Sen. Mitch McConnell, I have spent years criticizing your party-centric approach to politics. Often, I’ve said you have placed party over what I considered the overall interests of the country. But now, strangely enough, I find myself aligned with you, hoping that you will hold the line when it comes to promoting an internationalist foreign policy rather than allowing an isolationist one to prevail.

I’m asking you to please hold fast to the belief that America has a critical role to play in the world.

What role is that? Regime change, invasion, destruction, and sanctions?

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Please be the force that stands up to President Trump’s “America First” isolationism. In the past, I’ve boldly stated that because of your role in the second impeachment proceedings, your legacy would be defined by a second Donald Trump presidency. That may be true to a great degree; however, your legacy is still being written.

My hope is that you will help prevent the most damaging parts of a Trump presidency from becoming a reality, especially as it relates to America’s role on the world stage as the bright-shining beacon for democracy.

—Gregory Howard, 47250

Yes, some people really are that deluded.

Maybe we should start practicing democracy at home first, no?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, September 5, 2025 5:39 PM

'Looks like we've lost India, Russia to China': Trump shares photo of Modi, Xi and Putin

https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/looks-like-we-ve-lost-india-russia-
to-china-trump-shares-photo-of-modi-xi-and-putin-article-13524583.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, September 7, 2025 7:35 PM

Seoul holds emergency meeting after citizens detained in US Hyundai raid

https://bbc.com/news/articles/c5yvjnp295xo

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, September 18, 2025 3:29 PM

and France a bigger joke

This guy was kicked out of a bar for wearing a “Make England Great Again” cap.
https://x.com/stillgray/status/1968604745141989438#m

SIGNYM

Thursday, September 18, 2025 3:56 PM

QUESTIONS STILL HOLD TRUE TODAY AND NOBODY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DISCUSS GLOBALISM RATIONALLY

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hubby and I were talking about Brexit the other day, and he said something that I recognized- with a little shock- as being true. In essence, he said that the globalists have been working on destroying nations for over 50 years. The push for globalism isn't about multicultural acceptance or "helping" the poor, the real driver of globalism is -of course- profit: creating the ability of transnational corporations to relocate their production lines to cheap labor nations and sell into other nations without fear of tariff. Centralizing banking into a few transnational entities, enforcing neoliberal "austerity" as economic policy. Allowing international currency speculation. Slopping people back and forth across the globe, creating chaos everywhere.

How to go about destroying a nation? By moving its financial decision-making processes to private central banks and the IMF. By requiring trade decisions to be made by secret arbitration panels which rule according to trade deals negotiated in secret. Allowing foreign speculation in national assets. Buying off the top politicians of each nation. Bombing the snot out of some, if necessary, and destabilizing others which resist being incorporated. By creating "refugee" crises and immigration crises which create masses desperate for jobs at any wage.

For those of you who think that I'm a dyed-in-the-wool (fill in the blank) I'd like you to realize that my thinking has evolved over time. Years earlier, I shared the liberal POV on illegal immigrants. I wanted to "help" them. Then, at some point, and with a little reflection, I realized that the liberal POV of "helping" illegal immigrants wasn't really helpful at all. That if we REALLY wanted to help immigrants, and bring them into our nation on helpful basis, we would be doing far, far more than what we're currently doing. In my mind, I generated a whole program of things that we should be doing ... and then quickly realized that (1) We would be treating immigrants better than citizens and (2) Our economy couldn't accommodate the millions of people who would be accessing those programs, and we would sooner rather than later kill the goose that was laying that golden egg.

Here is one of my first posts on illegal immigration (2006), where I am truly mulling over the affect of illegal immigration.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=19153

So, what is the cause of such high immigration into the USA? Well, proximately, it was NAFTA, which drove small Mexican farmers off their land by flooding Mexico with cheap, subsidized American corn. But more generally, one the of reasons why liberals feel they should allow illegal immigration - especially from nations south of our border - is the guilt that comes from having our military and intelligence entities support every dictator, landowner, and bankster that we could get our hooks into; and crush every democratic land reform, educational, and social justice movement that tried to change that dynamic. A study of our Central and South American "interventions" is a study of "how to destroy nations". The same could be said of our interventions in the Middle East, starting in 1950.

In another thread which- I unfortunately can't find- FREMDFIRMA and BYTMITE and I were having a conversation about nationalism versus internationalism.

Now I have heard for many years that Marx predicted that capitalism would one day rule the world, destroying every distinction by language, sex, age, custom, nation, or religion; grinding everyone into the same pulp via the grist mill of production, consumption, and profit. Ultimately, he predicted, there would only be one distinction: between the owners of the means of production, and the workers. At that point socialism could arise (note, he didn't say communism) which can only truly exist in international

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SIGNYM

Thursday, September 18, 2025 4:02 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
'Looks like we've lost India, Russia to China': Trump shares photo of Modi, Xi and Putin

https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/looks-like-we-ve-lost-india-russia-
to-china-trump-shares-photo-of-modi-xi-and-putin-article-13524583.html

I don't believe we ever "had" India. They always straddled the line between the USA and USSR (now Russia). Trump's ham-fisted tariff threats just pushed India closer to Rusdia and even China.

I think that Trump is treating the EU and India like a spouse in a bad divorce: get rid of them by making such unreasonable demands that they leave first. That way, Trump can't be blamed by the neocons for changing "the world order".

In other words, Trump WANTS these ruptures.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger