Do You Think Firefly will ever return????

POSTED BY: COSPLAYWITHCAPTMAL
UPDATED: Thursday, January 28, 2016 17:42
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COSPLAYWITHCAPTMAL

Tuesday, January 26, 2016 11:10 PM

Lol I also agree that it is possible that Serenity 2 or even 3 could be released but with all the references that Fox has been dropping in it's shows (there was a Firefly reference in last nights The X Files) I think it's more likely we may actually get a mini series.

Now you can luxuriate in a nice jail cell, but if your hand touches metal I swear by my pretty floral bonnet I will end you.

ANCHORA

Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 AM

Honestly, probably not. But yunno I'm alright with that. There are so many shows that go out with a fizzle than a bang. I know you were talking about The X-Files in a few posts, and I love that show, It and Firefly are probably my two favorites, but no one argues that seasons 8 and 9 were "good television" really. I'm glad that we're still flying, I love to look at how far we've come over a decade later and listening to the old podcasts and all, but I feel like everyone behind Firefly is "done" with it.

And that sounds negative, but I don't mean it to. I think everyone came around to it being a very special little part of their life. I know Nathan is really a fan of it, and I know people like Ron Glass live quieter lives and still enjoy talking about it. Hes really not a celebrity. Hes like the grandpa you get to tell old stories hes already told 30 times before because he appreciates you asking. Jewel maybe didn't like it a ton at first and is a little hesitant to get into it, but she started to realize how big of a thing it was at some point. But its something that happened 10 years ago. The cast, Joss, hell, even the rest of the production crew have had huge events in the life go by. They're up to new things, and I don't think I want something to come back that ends up being not the show I used to know.

Will there be more comics? The video game? I'd say its not impossible. But for a new show or a second movie I just can't see it happening, and thats alright. Its our special little thing in our moment in time. Our object in space.

SECOND

Wednesday, January 27, 2016 6:33 PM

I am fond of the idea that Joss Whedon killed Wash for the story in the next movie, Serenity 2.

Joss didn't get to write it but a fan wrote her dead Wash story as soon as she saw the first movie. The short story was called Indistinguishable From Magic and showed how Joss could hypothetically exploit Wash in the next movie. A reader of the story said the very same, “I like this so much I wish we could see it happen in the next gorram movie.”

Another reader said, “Perfectly reasoned out, gorgeously executed, gloriously hopeful. I will take this thought to sleep with me tonight, to make it all right that we lost our pilot.”

One more reader: “Wow...just read this because someone posted a link to it. Brilliant! That would be the Joss way of doing things.”

Indistinguishable From Magic by Kieyra is at www.fireflyfans.net/bluesun.aspx?bid=5185

What was one of the reasons behind Joss Whedon killing off Wash in Serenity? His answer, which does not mention the second reason -- a story for Serenity 2, is at
www.quora.com/What-was-the-reason-behind-Joss-Whedon-killing-off-Wash-
in-Serenity

If you want to read Joss Whedon's original movie script where Wash and Book do NOT die, there is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

OLDGUY

Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:25 PM

ya'll gotta look at the bigger picture...if you want a sci-fi movie about a bunch of freedom loving rebels flying around in space dodging the evil empire/federalists...then you have to have a Republican in office...that's when hollywood gets serious about slathering the theaters and cable with stories like Firefly...from my point of view, be it Firefly or an ultra liberal series like boston Legal...the stories have been just as appropriate, if not more so, under our current "open and transparent" leadership that likes to use every thing from the IRS to EPA and Justice Dept to punish their subjugatted civilian population...but trust me folks..if you wanna see your beloved Firefly back on the signal...you better go out and vote Republican! (grin)

ECGORDON

Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
..if you wanna see your beloved Firefly back on the signal...you better go out and vote Republican! (grin)

If that's true, then I hope Firefly never comes back.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

THGRRI

Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:30 AM

Is that your tattoo TWO?

THGRRI

Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:32 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:
Originally posted by OLDGUY:
..if you wanna see your beloved Firefly back on the signal...you better go out and vote Republican! (grin)

If that's true, then I hope Firefly never comes back.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

Yep, I'd rather not see another new episode if it means voting Republican.

ANCHORA

Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:55 AM

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Originally posted by OLDGUY:
ya'll gotta look at the bigger picture...if you want a sci-fi movie about a bunch of freedom loving rebels flying around in space dodging the evil empire/federalists...then you have to have a Republican in office...that's when hollywood gets serious about slathering the theaters and cable with stories like Firefly...from my point of view, be it Firefly or an ultra liberal series like boston Legal...the stories have been just as appropriate, if not more so, under our current "open and transparent" leadership that likes to use every thing from the IRS to EPA and Justice Dept to punish their subjugatted civilian population...but trust me folks..if you wanna see your beloved Firefly back on the signal...you better go out and vote Republican! (grin)

Now I'm fine with political affiliations of any sort, but I'm not sure people liked Firefly just for the libertarian-ism of it being all tied to politics and such. Now sure, it is nice because many shows do have a liberal lean and its nice to see a show with some different themes, but yunno, its like saying "Saving Private Ryan" was popular because so many damn people loved WW2 in 1998.

And besides, I could totally see Bernie Sanders watching Firefly more than I could Donald Trump or Jeb Bush.

.. Maybe Rand Paul too, if I'm being fair.

SECOND

Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:30 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Is that your tattoo TWO?

Ever hear the phrase “As hard to get rid of as a tattoo”? I don't like Firefly enough to add its logo to my perfect skin.

Jewel Staite is impressed by the manly Serenity tattoo on her costar from The Killing S03E01.

Maybe she will be impressed with you when you get a chest tattoo?

NATHAN FILLION AND ALAN TUDYK on Jan 27, 2016

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

GWEK

Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by OLDGUY:
ya'll gotta look at the bigger picture...if you want a sci-fi movie about a bunch of freedom loving rebels flying around in space dodging the evil empire/federalists...then you have to have a Republican in office...that's when hollywood gets serious about slathering the theaters and cable with stories like Firefly...from my point of view, be it Firefly or an ultra liberal series like boston Legal...the stories have been just as appropriate, if not more so, under our current "open and transparent" leadership that likes to use every thing from the IRS to EPA and Justice Dept to punish their subjugatted civilian population...but trust me folks..if you wanna see your beloved Firefly back on the signal...you better go out and vote Republican! (grin)

Interestingly enough, I just had a conversation with a fellow Browncoat a few days ago that sort of goes the other way.

The Alliance, although depicted as MAL'S enemy, is ultimately a well-meaning (but either corrupt or less-than-competent) nanny state where there's total equality of gender, near-perfect education and employment rates, etc, all at the expense of personal freedom. Basically, the worst possible version of a Democrat paradise, bloating, lumbering "big government."

Mal, Zoe, et al, conversely are the best possible version of, say, the Tea Party, bitterly clinging to their guns and, in some cases, religion.

FIREFLY was put on Fox with the intention that it be the spiritual successor to THE X-FILES. I would say that if there's any popular show now that shares the same feel as FIREFLY, the little independent guys stepped on by history, it's WALKING DEAD. What do X-FILES and WALKING DEAD share in common? Their runs roughly parallel the terms of Democratic presidents... albeit Democratic presidents whose were elected in the wake of an ultimately unpopular Republican president, so maybe THAT'S the formula. Heck, maybe you even specifically need a Bush in there to make it work! :P

One of the primarily problems that FIREFLY had in a broad sense is timing. This is a show, like X-FILES, about questioning and challenging authority, and like WALKIND DEAD, about stubborn will and individual independence. Unfortunately, it aired almost a year to the day after 9/11. Side-note: I contend that if it had aired any time after a five-year window after 9/11, it would still be on, regardless of which party controlled the White House.

Hollywood does follow political and economic trends with respect to what's popular. For example, when the economy is great, we get grittier drama and action because people need less escapism, but when times are tough (whether it's because of bad economy or the gloom and doom of war), escapism runs rampant. It's been this way since the dawn of entertainment.

I'm not sure how this maps to political parties and sci fi specifically, but George Lucas has turned both parties into fodder, having stated that the Emperor (especially in the first trilogy) was inspired by Richard Nixon, while Chancellor Valorum, a leader mired in scandal and betrayed by his own Senate, was based on Bill Clinton.

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