Why we need to chill and cut the Muslims some slack
POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Monday, March 9, 2026 21:31
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I got a little tired of seeing the haters post nothing but hate. I got tired of them spinning current events in such a way that suggests we overact to what is going on and creates as the gentlemen in the video describes as the death spiral of negativity.
Get a grip people. Watch the video it's 18 minutes, and give this guys views some consideration.
http://www.ted.com/talks/robert_wright_on_optimism
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So I listened to this guy's views, and all I got out of it is that we need to understand on another better because it's too dangerous not to.
Okie dokie.
On the other hand, he made it sound like these terror attacks were the product of poor, marginalized people who are simply expressing their frustration at their impoverished circumstances. While some ... perhaps many ... of the terrorists fit that mold, the funders and supporters of violent jihad are anything but.
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So I listened to this guy's views, and all I got out of it is that we need to understand on another better because it's too dangerous not to.
Okie dokie.
On the other hand, he made it sound like these terror attacks were the product of poor, marginalized people who are simply expressing their frustration at their impoverished circumstances. While some ... perhaps many ... of the terrorists fit that mold, the funders and supporters of violent jihad are anything but.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
You missed the point. Much of our bigoted tendencies of the past have lessoned with time. In other words we used to be much worse. He also explained about how we have developed into societies and how those societies have grown more interdependent upon each other breading tolerance.
You guys are working towards falling back into a less tolerant world. How, by your inability to distinguish bad Muslims from good. By implying through carefully selected video's, press and blogs all Muslim refugees are subversive.
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I think I've made it very clear that the terrorist aspect is coming primarily from the Saudi-funded Wahhabi/ Takfiri/ Salafist end of Islam. Yanno, the one that preaches "convert or die" and "all your bases are belong to us" ... and means it. And enforces their way with horrific torture, and uses terror to intimidate the masses.
THAT kind of Islam.
The problem is that with the masses of people moving into Europe, there is no way to screen, identify, or track anyone. With the very real possibility of terrorists being embedded in the migrants (most of whom don't seem to be refugees) that presents an unacceptable security risk.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think I've made it very clear that the terrorist aspect is coming primarily from the Saudi-funded Wahhabi/ Takfiri/ Salafist end of Islam. Yanno, the one that preaches "convert or die" and "all your bases are belong to us" ... and means it. And enforces their way with horrific torture, and uses terror to intimidate the masses.
THAT kind of Islam.
The problem is that with the masses of people moving into Europe, there is no way to screen, identify, or track anyone. With the very real possibility of terrorists being embedded in the migrants (most of whom don't seem to be refugees) that presents an unacceptable security risk.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
SIG, I just can't seem to get you to realize how one dimensional your thinking is. Iran is the biggest exporter of terrorism and has been for a very long time.
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Iran trains and funds Hezbollah. Hezbollah is primarily centered in Lebanon, they defended Lebanon against an Israeli military attack - and won.
Southern Iraq is also full of (native) Shiite militias, who were organized by Iran. They're defending their territory against ISIL, like the Kurds are defending theirs.
What I don't see is Iranian-sponsored terrorists invading other nations, bringing down planes, bombing mosques, shooting down civilians. During the invasion of Iraq, there was a lot of internecine warfare between previously superior Sunnis (Baathists) and the Shiites, particularly in areas of contact, like between close neighborhoods in Baghdad. I chalked that up to general breakdown of society and security during war, and it's not like the Shiites were the only ones.
If you know of terrorist activities, please post them. I kind of anticipate that you won't, because you have a tendency to make broad, sweeping statements that you can't or won't back up.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Iran trains and funds Hezbollah. Hezbollah is primarily centered in Lebanon, they defended Lebanon against an Israeli military attack - and won.
Southern Iraq is also full of (native) Shiite militias, who were organized by Iran. They're defending their territory against ISIL, like the Kurds are defending theirs.
What I don't see is Iranian-sponsored terrorists invading other nations, bringing down planes, bombing mosques, shooting down civilians. During the invasion of Iraq, there was a lot of internecine warfare between previously superior Sunnis (Baathists) and the Shiites, particularly in areas of contact, like between close neighborhoods in Baghdad. I chalked that up to general breakdown of society and security during war, and it's not like the Shiites were the only ones.
If you know of terrorist activities, please post them.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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You must be confused: Defending your homeland is not terrorism. IF it was, the Kurds could be considered terrorists. But like I said, I doubt you'll really be able to post much. Once again, you've made a broad, sweeping, baseless statement.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You must be confused: Defending your homeland is not terrorism. IF it was, the Kurds could be considered terrorists. But like I said, I doubt you'll really be able to post much. Once again, you've made a broad, sweeping, baseless statement.
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Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act. Taken together, the four main categories of sanctions resulting from designation under these authorities include restrictions on U.S. foreign assistance; a ban on defense exports and sales; certain controls over exports of dual use items; and miscellaneous financial and other restrictions.
Designation under the above-referenced authorities also implicates other sanctions laws that penalize persons and countries engaging in certain trade with state sponsors. Currently there are three countries designated under these authorities: Iran, Sudan, and Syria.
Country Designation Date
Iran January 19, 1984
Sudan August 12, 1993
Syria December 29, 1979
Iran’s use of terrorist proxies throughout the Middle East, Central Asia and South America has continued since the Islamic Revolution of 1979. Not only is Iran currently the number one state sponsor of terrorism, it has continued to pursue this policy despite international condemnation and will continue to do so unless effective policy is implemented that will force Iran into compliance. The especially disturbing aspect of this sponsorship is not the flagrancy with which Iran provides support, but the influence that Iran has – through its various proxies - on Middle East politics; projecting its power into Arab countries and disrupting the Middle East peace process. While Iran is unlikely to abandon its support of terrorism any time soon, there are certainly ways in which the international community can help reduce Iran’s reliance on terrorist proxies in projecting its influence. Yet, any effort will require the full support of Arab and Western states along with both patience and good diplomacy amongst those involved, with countries placing long-term stability and prosperity in the Middle East over short term political and economic aims.
Key Words: HAMAS, Hizballah, Iran, PIJ, Proxies, Terrorists
Introduction
http://globalsecuritystudies.com/Manni%20Iran%20Final.pdf
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